Originally Posted by bluebottle:
“i do so agree”
“i do so agree”
Cheers (rolls eyes)
Luisa's 'open honesty'
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Originally Posted by postit:
“Luisa crumbles when confronted.”
“Luisa crumbles when confronted.”
You don't actually believe this to be true do you?
If you say she crumbles, where do you think she sits in terms of housemate crumbling when confronted. Bottom?
There a load I'd have as 'crumblers' before her!
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“If someone asked you whether their bum looked big in this, (even if it did) would you say yes and hurt their feelings just so you could clear yourself of being 'honest' or would you reassure them and say it doesn't? Of course one person's 'honesty' is just an opinion. One person's big bum is another ones luscious bum.
Do you see what I'm saying?”
“If someone asked you whether their bum looked big in this, (even if it did) would you say yes and hurt their feelings just so you could clear yourself of being 'honest' or would you reassure them and say it doesn't? Of course one person's 'honesty' is just an opinion. One person's big bum is another ones luscious bum.
Do you see what I'm saying?”
If it was a close mate..I'd be honest and say it doesn't flatter them and to try something else ...
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“You don't actually believe this to be true do you?
If you say she crumbles, where do you think she sits in terms of housemate crumbling when confronted. Bottom?
There a load I'd have as 'crumblers' before her!”
“You don't actually believe this to be true do you?
If you say she crumbles, where do you think she sits in terms of housemate crumbling when confronted. Bottom?
There a load I'd have as 'crumblers' before her!
”
Yes I do. when she is confronted she resorts to tears. We've seen this happen 3 times
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“You're right. People just use the "just being honest" excuse to be rude and obnoxious to people and it's my pet hate.”
“You're right. People just use the "just being honest" excuse to be rude and obnoxious to people and it's my pet hate.”
I agree too - but does Luisa do this a lot? The series is a knock-out contest with a lot of confrontation. I think there are people in the world who are socially unaware who think 'why should I be polite? Just say what I think' and those who mean to be mean, then use that as a get-out clause. And I don't think Luisa is either of those types. She understands social skills but struggles with being told not to open her big mouth, whatever the subject.
She is full of energy, undeniable, and much of that is verbal, then she sometimes is forced to defend saying what she thinks. She has authority issues I reckon, so 'will not be told', as it were. We saw that when she broke BB's rules and climbed the cage. That's more her nature than a 'mean girl.'
Outside of this game situation, I don't think she would seek out people to bully, but if someone tells her she's wrong she is very defensive and attacks back. I think she'll grow out of that more as she matures. Maybe.
Originally Posted by postit:
“Yes I do. when she is confronted she resorts to tears. We've seen this happen 3 times”
“Yes I do. when she is confronted she resorts to tears. We've seen this happen 3 times”
Crying doesn't always equate to crumbling, and is not proof absolute of her being weak. Also you've named 3 instances of crying but none of thge numerous instances of her articulating her argument in a very articulate manner, which of course are not the actions of a typical crumbler.
The hilarious thing is that on here she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't- either she's too rude and obnoxious OR she's a weak 'crumbler' that cried 3 times!
DS- you've got to love it sometimes.
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Crying doesn't always equate to crumbling, and is not proof absolute of her being weak. Also you've named 3 instances of crying but none of thge numerous instances of her articulating her argument in a very articulate manner, which of course are not the actions of a typical crumbler.
The hilarious thing is that on here she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't- either she's too rude and obnoxious OR she's a weak 'crumbler' that cried 3 times!
DS- you've got to love it sometimes.”
“Crying doesn't always equate to crumbling, and is not proof absolute of her being weak. Also you've named 3 instances of crying but none of thge numerous instances of her articulating her argument in a very articulate manner, which of course are not the actions of a typical crumbler.
The hilarious thing is that on here she's damned if she does and damned if she doesn't- either she's too rude and obnoxious OR she's a weak 'crumbler' that cried 3 times!
DS- you've got to love it sometimes.
”
The crying equates to her re-thinking her strategy. I do not for one moment think that she imagines she has lost control, she relies on her looks to distract. She doesn't think beyond the here and now.
It's as though she always wants to go that extra yard(even when clearly not necessary) to keep up her image of "not giving a shit" Hopefully this is something that will diminish as she matures.
Luisa in 20 years time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6wOh...8A5B9DFABA02B9
Originally Posted by postit:
“The crying equates to her re-thinking her strategy. I do not for one moment think that she imagines she has lost control, she relies on her looks to distract. She doesn't think beyond the here and now.”
“The crying equates to her re-thinking her strategy. I do not for one moment think that she imagines she has lost control, she relies on her looks to distract. She doesn't think beyond the here and now.”
Fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm sure I don't need to say that it's one I disagree with, although I do think your points are interesting (that is not meant to sound patronising I promise).
I DO appreciate you at least debating it with me and not just dismissing my opinion out of hand.
Originally Posted by Betty Britain:
“Personally
I believe a person can be honest without being offensive.. Luisa doesn't fit into that category ..she can be quite brutal with her opinions”
“Personally
I believe a person can be honest without being offensive.. Luisa doesn't fit into that category ..she can be quite brutal with her opinions”
and then some
Funny how Luisa sees jim as sexist but is quite happy for Dappy to make out sexual positions with her from behind & how many times he can make her orgasm... She found it fun him
Grabbing her like that! Funny standards she has?
Grabbing her like that! Funny standards she has?
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