I know it's early but i was just curious to know who people want as the 13th Doctor I personally don't have anyone in mind but maybe you can enlighten me.
Thanks Capaldi
Thanks Capaldi
13th Doctor - Who Do You Want
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A black doctor - though only if they have a good enough actor for it, no point just choosing an actor cus he's black
Originally Posted by Puca:
“A black doctor - though only if they have a good enough actor for it, no point just choosing an actor cus he's black”
“A black doctor - though only if they have a good enough actor for it, no point just choosing an actor cus he's black”
very true and the same can be said 'if' they ever do decide to make the Doctor a woman!
seriously, are we really throwing capaldi under the bus already?. that being said I'll say chris o dowd because i was excited when his name was in the running last time.
p.s if capaldi regenerates as a result of being thrown under a bus, then i want credit for the idea
p.s if capaldi regenerates as a result of being thrown under a bus, then i want credit for the idea
Damien Molony (..and Toby Whithouse writing)
- costume similar to Jackson Lake's
- companion from 1920s or 30s
- console room inspired by that from Season 14
- Great Vampires story, the Mara as a recurring enemy and The Black Guardian as the Big Bad
- costume similar to Jackson Lake's
- companion from 1920s or 30s
- console room inspired by that from Season 14
- Great Vampires story, the Mara as a recurring enemy and The Black Guardian as the Big Bad
Actually two people at least, who would like Chris O'Dowd as the Doctor. I agree with doctor blue box, he would make a great Doctor.
Not yet though of course! I want Peter Capaldi to stay for as long as possible.
Don't understand why people would be "banging their head against the wall", just because they think the discussion is silly. Why not find a thread that does interest you instead?
Incidentally I seem to be unable to quote any posts in this thread, although I can in other threads. How odd!
Not yet though of course! I want Peter Capaldi to stay for as long as possible.
Don't understand why people would be "banging their head against the wall", just because they think the discussion is silly. Why not find a thread that does interest you instead?
Incidentally I seem to be unable to quote any posts in this thread, although I can in other threads. How odd!
And now half the posts in this thread (including some of the ones I was answering in my last post) seem to have completely vanished. Even more strange.
Whoever it is and it is pretty early to be discussing this, I hope they decide to go down the 'unknown actor' route.
I always wanted Edward Tudor Pole but I suppose Capaldi has sort of covered that now! lol
I always wanted Edward Tudor Pole but I suppose Capaldi has sort of covered that now! lol
Originally Posted by Midnight Moggy:
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Don't understand why people would be "banging their head against the wall", just because they think the discussion is silly. Why not find a thread that does interest you instead?
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Don't understand why people would be "banging their head against the wall", just because they think the discussion is silly. Why not find a thread that does interest you instead?
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I was merely replying to saladfingers' amusing post. Perhaps you didn't find it amusing? Neither did the mods. apparently. Perhaps they are Chris O'Dowd fans, as well.
Sorry, but if I think a thread discussing who will be the 13th Doctor a bit daft, considering the 12th hasn't even started properly yet, I don't see why I shouldn't say so. Why not just ignore my posts if you don't like them?
anyway, despite them using the established labeling, as not to confuse people, I still feel that Capaldi is the 13th and what this thread is really discussing the 14th. In my eye's hurt was as much of a doctor as any of them, and besides, not using your name dosen't change who you are
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“anyway, despite them using the established labeling, as not to confuse people, I still feel that Capaldi is the 13th and what this thread is really discussing the 14th. In my eye's hurt was as much of a doctor as any of them, and besides, not using your name dosen't change who you are”
“anyway, despite them using the established labeling, as not to confuse people, I still feel that Capaldi is the 13th and what this thread is really discussing the 14th. In my eye's hurt was as much of a doctor as any of them, and besides, not using your name dosen't change who you are”
If you were going to add one for Hurt you'd also have to add one for the metacrisis regeneration and go...
8th - McGann
9th - Hurt
10th - Eccleston
11th - Tennant ("The Lonely God" - Series 1-4)
12th - Tennant ("The Time Lord Victorious" - 2008-10 Specials)
- “Number Ten once regenerated and kept the same face...” - The Eleventh Doctor in TTOTD
[LIST]13th - Smith
- "I can change 12 times. Thirteen versions of me. Thirteen silly doctors." - The Eleventh Doctor in TTOTD
14th - Capaldi[/LIST]...and essentially, Capaldi IS the Fourteenth Incarnation of the Time Lord who usually goes by the name of the Doctor...
...However...
...because the true Ninth Incarnation spent much of what would seem to have been a long lived incarnation going by another name (The "Warrior" or The "Renegade" to the Time Lords) then he is not counted as a numbered Doctor and is known in retrospect as The War Doctor...
...and because the Tenth Doctor "kept the same face" after his Eleventh Regeneration, despite him technically being both the Eleventh AND Twelfth incarnations he is still only known throughout as the Tenth Doctor....
...So there have been, to date, 12 "Doctors", one of which (the Tenth) spanned two "incarnations"...
...and another incarnation who wasn't known as The Doctor during his own "lifetime"...
...seemples...
...the Fourteenth "Incarnation", following the Thirteenth Regeneration is the "Twelfth Doctor".
...and with the thirteenth regeneration being his first of a "whole new cycle of regenerations" following the "reset" he now has 11 left out of his second lot of 12...
...which would mean currently the "final incarnation" is set at the Twenty Fifth "Incarnation" following what will be the Twenty-Fourth Regeneration who, unless another incarnation acts "not in the name of the Doctor", will be the Twenty-Third "Doctor"
Anyway, the average age for the incumbent Doctor to be during the middle of his tenure... (including McGann being aged 54 & Hurt being aged 39 in TNOTD, though it doesn't make much difference) ...has dropped over the course of thirteen regenerations from Mid-late 50s down to Early-Mid 40s...
...but interestingly the most significant drop in that average is over the course of the first four regenerations, not over recent years...
...and the average age for the Doctor to have appeared at any given time (not counting Troughton's three "season 6b" appearances or Smiths make-up in TTOTD) has been between 42-46 since the the time of the Fifth Doctor in the early 80s...
...Even if you just count supposedly "younger" post-season 26 Doctors from McGann-Capaldi (including Hurt) that average stays between 41-45
Food for thought when people make out with a multitude of graphs you can google that there is a consistent trend towards the Doctor always getting younger...
...the average age of ALL the actors playing the various incarnations has been pretty much the same for 30 years.
43-44 is about bang in the middle of what age we'd expect the Doctor to visibly appear, with Hartnell and Hurt at one end and Smith and Davison at the other being the opposite ends of the scale.
With Capaldi again being an older Doctor, I'm going to go with anywhere between 30 and 45 for his successor.
...but interestingly the most significant drop in that average is over the course of the first four regenerations, not over recent years...
...and the average age for the Doctor to have appeared at any given time (not counting Troughton's three "season 6b" appearances or Smiths make-up in TTOTD) has been between 42-46 since the the time of the Fifth Doctor in the early 80s...
...Even if you just count supposedly "younger" post-season 26 Doctors from McGann-Capaldi (including Hurt) that average stays between 41-45
Food for thought when people make out with a multitude of graphs you can google that there is a consistent trend towards the Doctor always getting younger...
...the average age of ALL the actors playing the various incarnations has been pretty much the same for 30 years.
43-44 is about bang in the middle of what age we'd expect the Doctor to visibly appear, with Hartnell and Hurt at one end and Smith and Davison at the other being the opposite ends of the scale.
With Capaldi again being an older Doctor, I'm going to go with anywhere between 30 and 45 for his successor.
Originally Posted by Shoppy:
“If you were going to add one for Hurt you'd also have to add one for the metacrisis regeneration and go...
8th - McGann
9th - Hurt
10th - Eccleston
11th - Tennant ("The Lonely God" - Series 1-4)
12th - Tennant ("The Time Lord Victorious" - 2008-10 Specials)
13th - Smith
...and essentially, Capaldi IS the Fourteenth Incarnation of the Time Lord who usually goes by the name of the Doctor...
...However...
...because the true Ninth Incarnation spent much of what would seem to have been a long lived incarnation going by another name (The "Warrior" or The "Renegade" to the Time Lords) then he is not counted as a numbered Doctor and is known in retrospect as The War Doctor...
...and because the Tenth Doctor "kept the same face" after his Eleventh Regeneration, despite him technically being both the Eleventh AND Twelfth incarnations he is still only known throughout as the Tenth Doctor....
...So there have been, to date, 12 "Doctors", one of which (the Tenth) spanned two "incarnations"...
...and another incarnation who wasn't known as The Doctor during his own "lifetime"...
...seemples...
...the Fourteenth "Incarnation", following the Thirteenth Regeneration is the "Twelfth Doctor".
...and with the thirteenth regeneration being his first of a "whole new cycle of regenerations" following the "reset" he now has 11 left out of his second lot of 12...
...which would mean currently the "final incarnation" is set at the Twenty Fifth "Incarnation" following what will be the Twenty-Fourth Regeneration who, unless another incarnation acts "not in the name of the Doctor", will be the Twenty-Third "Doctor"
”
“If you were going to add one for Hurt you'd also have to add one for the metacrisis regeneration and go...
8th - McGann
9th - Hurt
10th - Eccleston
11th - Tennant ("The Lonely God" - Series 1-4)
12th - Tennant ("The Time Lord Victorious" - 2008-10 Specials)
- “Number Ten once regenerated and kept the same face...” - The Eleventh Doctor in TTOTD
[LIST]13th - Smith
- "I can change 12 times. Thirteen versions of me. Thirteen silly doctors." - The Eleventh Doctor in TTOTD
14th - Capaldi[/LIST]...and essentially, Capaldi IS the Fourteenth Incarnation of the Time Lord who usually goes by the name of the Doctor...
...However...
...because the true Ninth Incarnation spent much of what would seem to have been a long lived incarnation going by another name (The "Warrior" or The "Renegade" to the Time Lords) then he is not counted as a numbered Doctor and is known in retrospect as The War Doctor...
...and because the Tenth Doctor "kept the same face" after his Eleventh Regeneration, despite him technically being both the Eleventh AND Twelfth incarnations he is still only known throughout as the Tenth Doctor....
...So there have been, to date, 12 "Doctors", one of which (the Tenth) spanned two "incarnations"...
...and another incarnation who wasn't known as The Doctor during his own "lifetime"...
...seemples...
...the Fourteenth "Incarnation", following the Thirteenth Regeneration is the "Twelfth Doctor".
...and with the thirteenth regeneration being his first of a "whole new cycle of regenerations" following the "reset" he now has 11 left out of his second lot of 12...
...which would mean currently the "final incarnation" is set at the Twenty Fifth "Incarnation" following what will be the Twenty-Fourth Regeneration who, unless another incarnation acts "not in the name of the Doctor", will be the Twenty-Third "Doctor"
”
I already thought about meta crisis doctor but dismissed it, because it was a half human (with half of donna noble's personality) freak of nature and not a real doctor where has hurt was completely the same man,so although regeneration energy has been expended in full 13 times by capaldi, I still consider capaldi as 13 and the next one as 14, even though I acknowledge that to not mess with established labels they will market him as the 12th, as matt was marketed as the 11th
"Incarnation" means "in flesh" - an incarnation of the Doctor is a new body housing the same character.
The meta-crisis Doctor is a new body, certainly, but also a different character.
Just because the Doctor says, "I can change 12 times. Thirteen versions of me. Thirteen silly doctors." doesn't mean there has to be thirteen silly doctors.
The meta-crisis Doctor is a new body, certainly, but also a different character.
Just because the Doctor says, "I can change 12 times. Thirteen versions of me. Thirteen silly doctors." doesn't mean there has to be thirteen silly doctors.
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
“I know it's early but i was just curious to know who people want as the 13th Doctor I personally don't have anyone in mind but maybe you can enlighten me.
Thanks Capaldi”
“I know it's early but i was just curious to know who people want as the 13th Doctor I personally don't have anyone in mind but maybe you can enlighten me.
Thanks Capaldi”
If you think about it, Capaldi is the 13th. He's the 12th Doctor, but the 13th incarnation. If you don't count the Meta-Crisis version of DT's Doctor. So basically, we've got a 13th. John Hurt didn't want to be known as a Doctor, but he was still an incarnation.
The Meta-Crisis version cannot really be classed as a Doctor, because he has only one heart, and cannot regenerate. Steven Moffat, to my knowledge, hasn't said that the alternate version is in any way a Doctor. I don't see him as the Doctor, and never will. He to me, is just a clone of DT's, but with no Time Lord abilities, except for the memories of other Doctors.
Peter may stay in the role for years and years. We may get PC matching TB's time on the show. I hope so! Tom Baker was so liked, and is a lot of people's favourite Doctor. TB played the Doctor so alien-like, unlike most of the people before him, and after. That's what the fans liked about him in the role.
Peter Capaldi seems like he will act quite alien in the role, compared to Matt. He has that frown. The frown that Tom had and Patrick seemed to have, too.
Don't know about anybody else but I long for the days when Tennant was just the Tenth Doctor, Smith was The Eleventh and if things hadn't been mucked around so much, Capaldi would simply be the Twelfth Doctor. Simple as that.
All this mucking around with what Doctor Post-Tennant is which does my head in!
All this mucking around with what Doctor Post-Tennant is which does my head in!
Originally Posted by tiggerpooh:
“ TB played the Doctor so alien-like, unlike most of the people before him, and after. That's what the fans liked about him in the role.
”
“ TB played the Doctor so alien-like, unlike most of the people before him, and after. That's what the fans liked about him in the role.
”
I think the only one to match TB is MS, he looked, sounded and acted like he was just trying to be normal but couldn't quite manage it, just like Four.
Capaldi is an amazing, in demand actor, I cant see him getting anywhere near TBs tenure, personally, I think he'll just do three seasons but they'll be brilliant ones!
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“Don't know about anybody else but I long for the days when Tennant was just the Tenth Doctor, Smith was The Eleventh and if things hadn't been mucked around so much, Capaldi would simply be the Twelfth Doctor. Simple as that.
All this mucking around with what Doctor Post-Tennant is which does my head in!
”
“Don't know about anybody else but I long for the days when Tennant was just the Tenth Doctor, Smith was The Eleventh and if things hadn't been mucked around so much, Capaldi would simply be the Twelfth Doctor. Simple as that.
All this mucking around with what Doctor Post-Tennant is which does my head in!
”
I concur, but it is what it is and I'm just trying to 'keep calm and carry on'
Originally Posted by Pull2Open:
“I concur, but it is what it is and I'm just trying to 'keep calm and carry on'”
“I concur, but it is what it is and I'm just trying to 'keep calm and carry on'
”
If I was the next showrunner, I'd kick all that Hurt Doctor crap out and get it back to what it was and do a Daveyboy style reset......
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“If I was the next showrunner, I'd kick all that Hurt Doctor crap out and get it back to what it was and do a Daveyboy style reset......”
“If I was the next showrunner, I'd kick all that Hurt Doctor crap out and get it back to what it was and do a Daveyboy style reset......
”
Big Bang 3?
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“I already thought about meta crisis doctor but dismissed it, because it was a half human (with half of donna noble's personality) freak of nature and not a real doctor where has hurt was completely the same man,so although regeneration energy has been expended in full 13 times by capaldi, I still consider capaldi as 13 and the next one as 14, even though I acknowledge that to not mess with established labels they will market him as the 12th, as matt was marketed as the 11th”
“I already thought about meta crisis doctor but dismissed it, because it was a half human (with half of donna noble's personality) freak of nature and not a real doctor where has hurt was completely the same man,so although regeneration energy has been expended in full 13 times by capaldi, I still consider capaldi as 13 and the next one as 14, even though I acknowledge that to not mess with established labels they will market him as the 12th, as matt was marketed as the 11th”
Yeah it's not the Metacrisis Doctor that'a another "incarnation", it's the Tenth Doctor himself from the regeneration onwards.
Originally Posted by Granny McSmith:
“I was merely replying to saladfingers' amusing post. Perhaps you didn't find it amusing? Neither did the mods. apparently. Perhaps they are Chris O'Dowd fans, as well.
Sorry, but if I think a thread discussing who will be the 13th Doctor a bit daft, considering the 12th hasn't even started properly yet, I don't see why I shouldn't say so. Why not just ignore my posts if you don't like them?”
“I was merely replying to saladfingers' amusing post. Perhaps you didn't find it amusing? Neither did the mods. apparently. Perhaps they are Chris O'Dowd fans, as well.
Sorry, but if I think a thread discussing who will be the 13th Doctor a bit daft, considering the 12th hasn't even started properly yet, I don't see why I shouldn't say so. Why not just ignore my posts if you don't like them?”
I didn't say I didn't like anyone's post, or that you shouldn't give your opinion on the discussion, I said I didn't understand why someone would bother with a thread they found silly.
People will always discuss who future Doctors might be, that's the nature of the show.
I'm not sure why the mods would remove either of your posts, there wasn't exactly anything offensive in them. I've seen far worse in other threads.
Maybe it was because the idea of a forum is for people to talk about things that interest them, not just subjects which have been approved by individual forum members as valid or sensible topics.
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