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Iain Lee is head and shoulders above the other presenters for me. His humour I think often goes over people's heads.
He is the only one who seems to largely echo my sentiment every time and for me he should be the main guy on all the shows. ..and no this isn't because he's (or someone who has his name) posted in this thread .
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No I wasn't.
Well said last night Iain, you said something that needed to be said, and Carol did try to be balanced in her comments. It was a disgusting show, and that therapists slating of Jim and calling him manipulative etc. was disgusting. |
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After thinking about the character assassination of Jim Davidson that took place on BBBOTP last night it seems to me as though the BB producers have put themselves between a rock and a hard place.
Linda Nolan was claiming that the highlights only showed her bitterness and antagonism toward Jim and the so called experts agreed and both stated that Jim's performance in the house is all some kind of 'nice guy' act for the cameras and that he doesn't deserve to win the show or even remain in the house. If Linda was really the engaging friendly and cheerful 'Momma Lin' who didn't deserve to be evicted that she claimed to be why was this not shown at all? If this is really the case the producers guaranteed a Jim Davidson win or at least top three finish and Linda was treated very badly indeed. If the highlights are a genuine reflection of what actually took place (and I suspect that by and large they may be) then why were these 'expert panelists' allowed to state quite clearly that Jim is a good actor and is manipulating every situation to his advantage, when the footage that we have been shown shows that Linda instigated the problems between her, and Jim which has led to him receiving overwhelming public support. It would appear that the BB producers are panicking because they may have handed this years BB crown to their least desirable option, someone who is older, coming to the end of their career and regarded by many as sexist, homophobic, racist, un-PC blah blah blah. If Jim Davidson is all of these things that Linda and her admirers on the BBBOTP panel said he is why has this not been shown to viewers? The BB producers seem to have wanted to have their cake and eat it, Linda is now allegedly claiming to have slashed her wrists in the BB house because of Jim Davidson's behaviour toward her even though there were no reports of her receiving medical treatment or being removed from the house and given counseling, and no mention of it by any other HM at the time. Oh what a tangled web the BB producers have woven ![]() |
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IF Linda did self harm, it could have explained what we saw on BBOTS last night, with them crawling all over Linda,buttering her up, as they clearly failed in their duty of care for a HM. Even worse if that Annie Lennox wannabee is responsible for the pysche evaluation of people going into the house.
That doesn't negate their appalling treatment of Jim, |
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That doesn't negate their appalling treatment of Jim,
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I am sorry but that blonde woman does not look like Annie Lennox, she looks like Hayley Cropper without her wig
I have never seen a worse biased programme than last nights. Usually Emma and Rylan bend over backwards to be fair and equal to all housemates but last night was excruciating a hatchet job of the highest degree. It will fail because it will backfire on them, they should be sacked. I turned it off as it was disgusting, I wouldn't let those harpies near my cockatiel, let alone a human being |
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Usually Emma and Rylan bend over backwards to be fair and equal to all housemates |
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Size of Wales ??? surely not
,...Have to disagree with everything you've said - he is very very good at what he does, and going along with your 'size' analogy...you're opinion's about as accurate as the size of one of my plant pots in my garden ![]() AND by the way....a lot of us STILL find Iain amusing - and I've never seen any evidence of Iain being rude to the panel or audience. And do you not recall Emma was scathing about Luisa's behaviour, particularly towards Ollie, and at Lee's behaviour with the girls !! I'm relieved there was some kind of balance about Jim on the show, with Iain saying he liked him and wouldn't mind him winning.... and even then, this was still only 1 positive opinion against 4 members of the panel scathing Jim !! So no idea what the fuss is about, Iain's opinion was only stating a view held by many on here about Jim and viewers too, because Jim IS STILL IN THE HOUSE isn't he ! If Iain had slated a HM like that panel you'd all be calling him bias and that he should go ! Carol bigging up Luisa, was not a surprise, seeing as she practically adopted Charlotte who went on to win in the house last year. AND According to Linda, you can't be anything but 'yourself' in the house. WELL that's an interesting comment now isn't it - because according to the panel last night,, Jim's managing to put on an 'act' and is not being himself. Jim must be superhuman then !!! ![]() Whether he was prompted in his earpiece or not, I'm glad that he spoke up for Jim after a barrage of dross from 2 women who ought to know better. I feel you may have me confused with a Jim hater Have a look at some of my posts in the last week
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Iain Lee is head and shoulders above the other presenters for me. His humour I think often goes over people's heads.
He is the only one who seems to largely echo my sentiment every time and for me he should be the main guy on all the shows. ..and no this isn't because he's (or someone who has his name) posted in this thread . |
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I dont understand Linda saying you have to be yourself in the house that you couldnt act for more than a couple of days , yet she now says Jim is acting ...it is all an act..... she does my head in
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You're more than welcome to disagree! I don't like him, I think his ego is enormous, in that he's more interested in himself and his own views than he is in the HMs or even panellists. I love Rylan, but when they're together on that Saturday show they behave like a couple of naughty schoolboys with the attention span of a gnat.
Whether he was prompted in his earpiece or not, I'm glad that he spoke up for Jim after a barrage of dross from 2 women who ought to know better. I feel you may have me confused with a Jim hater Have a look at some of my posts in the last week![]() Firstly : One of the reasons I and many posters like Iain him is BECAUSE he doesn't turn eveything back to talking about himself, something which Rylan is very very guilty of. He's no nonsense straight in with the questions to the panel that we all want to know, so you're wrong there. Secondly : Iain has posted - HE WAS NOT TOLD TO SAY ANYTHING about Jim - it was his opinion. |
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It was a hurried little comment toward the end. He didn’t have the balls to elaborate or even counter argue any of the poison spouted by the panel.
His rushed little comment was the shows legal obligation so as not to appear biased. |
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I have just caught up with this and could hardly believe the hatchet job that was done on Jim.
Blooming disgraceful.Aren't the experts supposed to impartial? The blonde one nearly made me sick when she said to Linda "You're my winner" I have never been the biggest fan of Jim but I am a big fan of fair play. |
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I have just caught up with this and could hardly believe the hatchet job that was done on Jim.
Blooming disgraceful.Aren't the experts supposed to impartial? The blonde one nearly made me sick when she said to Linda "You're my winner" I have never been the biggest fan of Jim but I am a big fan of fair play. - but the extent they went to, to put Jim 'down' and brand him the villain just to make Linda's behaviour on BB seem justifiable was disgraceful, but Iain likes Jim, so it kind of balanced it out - because more would be inclined to go with Iain's views than the ..psychos or Carol anyway.
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IF Linda did self harm, it could have explained what we saw on BBOTS last night, with them crawling all over Linda,buttering her up, as they clearly failed in their duty of care for a HM. Even worse if that Annie Lennox wannabee is responsible for the pysche evaluation of people going into the house.
I think that the producers are scared of Jim winning. I like the guy although I can see how he has quietly retaliated against the collective spite of Linda and Luisa but a large body of public opinion has been taught to think of Jim as one step removed from Hitler. ![]() Quote:
I have just caught up with this and could hardly believe the hatchet job that was done on Jim.
Blooming disgraceful.Aren't the experts supposed to impartial? The blonde one nearly made me sick when she said to Linda "You're my winner" I have never been the biggest fan of Jim but I am a big fan of fair play. Or were they spouting the same sort of vile unreasoning grudge fueled antagonism against Jim because it's the dogmatic Politically Correct thing to do and there is no basis in fact for their opinions? Iain Lee was the only panelist who was left with a shred of integrity, and his rushed last minute intervention almost came too late after the vomit making ass kissing of Linda by the others. |
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all done for the simple reason : they knew Linda was fragile - so they pandered to her, and perhaps it was necessary to a certain extent as she was clearly angry that she'd been portrayed and shown by BB as never smiling in HL shows
- but the extent they went to, to put Jim 'down' and brand him the villain just to make Linda's behaviour on BB seem justifiable was disgraceful, but Iain likes Jim, so it kind of balanced it out - because more would be inclined to go with Iain's views than the ..psychos or Carol anyway. ![]() Grossly unfair and totally out of order! |
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Nothing sexist about calling a group of witches a coven. Statement of fact. And covens can be male or female
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Think the lawyers are going to have an easy time making a case for Jim and how he has been portrayed on BBOTS, starting with Linda's exit interview.
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Linda Nolan was claiming that the highlights only showed her bitterness and antagonism toward Jim and the so called experts agreed and both stated that Jim's performance in the house is all some kind of 'nice guy' act for the cameras and that he doesn't deserve to win the show or even remain in the house.
If Linda was really the engaging friendly and cheerful 'Momma Lin' who didn't deserve to be evicted that she claimed to be why was this not shown at all? Linda got things far worse, because he chosen story, again from day one, was 'fights with Jim'. He did not get this at all: endlessly kindly conversations with other housemates have been shown, and a special all-house task was even invented purely to spotlight him having kindly conversations with all of them. He has been edited as a fully rounded character, and we know pretty well who he likes spending time with, what they talk about, what they like about him and vice versa. None of this for linda at all: we have seen loads of conversations about neutral, pleasant topics between Jim and Dappy, Jim and Lee; but none at all, ever, between Linda and Sam, Linda and Casey, Linda and Lee. Who knew, until he said so after her eviction, that Lee 'always got on really well with Linda; I really liked her' because they were fellow musicians and had a common interest? Amount of footage showing that relationship: 0 seconds. Amount of footage in the highlights of Linda and Dappy talking about music (as was shown on the live feed): 0 seconds. Even amount of footage of Linda over-mothering Ollie - a criticism he made, but not a nasty one: 0 seconds. They just had no interest in showing Linda being friendly or affectionate or motherly or interested or amused or anything positive at all: as soon as she stopped talking about or to Jim, she was instantly cut out of the edit. Quote:
If this is really the case the producers guaranteed a Jim Davidson win or at least top three finish and Linda was treated very badly indeed.
Yes of course. I don't suppose Linda would have done a whole lot better; she was not, as far as we can see, a bundle of wit and energy; her rows with Jim would always have played badly. But it was a horrible betrayal to bring her in just as part of Jim's story, then just throw her to the wolves to make that story stronger. Shame on them for messing with peoples' lives like that. Linda had no idea, when she was a well-liked housemate, what her image outside the house was; well she knows now, having seen a small fraction of the truly evil abuse on unmoderated places like facebook and twitter. Quote:
It would appear that the BB producers are panicking because they may have handed this years BB crown to their least desirable option, someone who is older, coming to the end of their career and regarded by many as sexist, homophobic, racist, un-PC blah blah blah.
I think the opposite. There is no advantage at all to them in someone winning who is signed to a rival channel. I think they have hopes that Jim will do some work for them in the future. Quote:
even though there were no reports of her receiving medical treatment or being removed from the house and given counseling, and no mention of it by any other HM at the time.
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IF Linda did self harm, it could have explained what we saw on BBOTS last night, with them crawling all over Linda,buttering her up, as they clearly failed in their duty of care for a HM. Even worse if that Annie Lennox wannabee is responsible for the pysche evaluation of people going into the house.
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Fragile? I didn't see any fragility..(she's a hard faced madam).she just sat there, basking listening to the others, apart from that short interjection from Iain,tearing Jim to pieces.
Grossly unfair and totally out of order! I have an issue with the endlessly repeated words 'hard faced' or 'sour faced' because imo people are (perhaps unknowingly) abusing her for her actual FACE. No one smiles all the time, and we all have a characteristic expression when not smiling. For the young and smooth skinned, this is not an issue; a lot of older people find to their regret that as soon as they stop smiling, their face looks naturally glum and grumpy. (Jim is surely worse in that respect; but people love him, so it is fine for him to look grumpy). Linda was constantly reviled for looking 'sour' or 'hard' when she was doing nothing more than listening neutrally to a conversation; often when she actually joined in, she was obviously perfectly all right. What it is to have a lovely perky face that always looks nice. |
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The psychologist (@TheRachelMorris) has called everyone on Twitter who has Tweeted her negative comments about last night's show trolls.
Nope. We just have a different opinion and appreciate fair, balanced opinions rather than pandering to Linda for whatever reason. |
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What fragility would you expect to see? Her curled in a foetal postion, rocking backwards and forwards? |
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The psychologist (@TheRachelMorris) has called everyone on Twitter who has Tweeted her negative comments about last night's show trolls.
Nope. We just have a different opinion and appreciate fair, balanced opinions rather than pandering to Linda for whatever reason.
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Iain Lee is head and shoulders above the other presenters for me. His humour I think often goes over people's heads.
He is the only one who seems to largely echo my sentiment every time and for me he should be the main guy on all the shows. ..and no this isn't because he's (or someone who has his name) posted in this thread .
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The psychologist (@TheRachelMorris) has called everyone on Twitter who has Tweeted her negative comments about last night's show trolls.
Nope. We just have a different opinion and appreciate fair, balanced opinions rather than pandering to Linda for whatever reason. The abuse of presenters of here is sick. Abusing any of them on twitter is ridiculous. |
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I agree UNLESS he is slagging off someone i like
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What a horrendous panel that was last night.
The way that blonde one was kissing up to Linda made me feel physically sick, and that 'performance coach' is always woefully off the mark with her comments. So terribly biased, the lot of 'em. Dreadful stuff. |
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I agree he would be the best replacement for lead presenter out of anyone associated with the show. I trust he can actually do impartiality and balance - the basic skill-set - and is cleverer and funnier than the others combined. Did I mention he was sexy? Even though he's got a bit porky. Suits him, he's no spring chicken anymore x
opinion, the panel should be split for a debate. Good on Iain for having the guts to speak up about Jim in front of the 4 women. I also think the presenters need to be asking the evictee more gutsy questions everything just seems to be softly glossed over.
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,...Have to disagree with everything you've said - he is very very good at what he does, and going along with your 'size' analogy...you're opinion's about as accurate as the size of one of my plant pots in my garden 

Blooming disgraceful.
