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puppetangel
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“Or maybe she's just one of those dangerous, damaged people who if you cross them, they immediately 'take agin (against) you' they make it their life's work to destroy you.

Just a theory.”


I think anyone in life who crosses her, she'll focus all her attention on them and all grief and target them. Just so happened to be Jim on there...the rest of the house even Luisa have changed since she's gone....Luisa and Jim are able to have a conversation and discuss how they feel whereas Linda would jump in and start shouting sexist and stop conversations....she wanted to control the agenda...she turned on Dappy and wouldnt forgive him for nominating her when its a game and he was really sorry.


If he'd said something about Coleen then coleen would have said something whilst Linda was in the house to defend her, if it was as simple as that Linda would have said so in the house, in the VT going in she talked about getting him thrown out of a nightclub. Everything she's said since she came out of the house I dont believe.
wonkeydonkey
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by HonestLee:
“Kind words Penny, thank you (bunch-of-flowers emoticon)

Aw it's a shame you see Jim like that but you won't get bashed here, you're more than entitled to your opinion

I suppose I'm a bloke and a product of his era so I can see the crap in him but can also see the fight in him against those traits too, his reputation proceeds him all too easily I think”

It's nice to see someone actually putting some thought into what they are saying instead of just competing to see who can come up with the most hateful language about her. I see some people are immediately annoyed with your post because - is it hostile enough? Could you be going off message and even suggesting a bit of sympathy? I can't decide with Jim - and really, no one can - how much he has actually changed, and how much, after his hell's kitchen escapade, he has decided to put himself on a VERY tight rein this time.
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“I sincerely hope Jim's lawyers will be on Linda's back for the accusations she is making about him ”

I'm sure you do. Perhaps you would like to fund his libel case. If he started taking to court everyone who said they had had an encounter in which he was drunk and obnoxious he could have a case a week for the rest of his life.
fannymottquim
26-01-2014
According it Jim they barely knew each other. Linda is mentally ill if she self harmed and probably assumed he would be hated so could dig at him and become a hero. I don't think there is much more to it than that
patricia50
26-01-2014
Yes I believe its much more than her disliking him. I think she is almost scared to let go of it. Maybe because of feeling disloyal to her husband or something. If she is truely self harming as has been mentioned then she has something going on that runs deep and it surprises me that she has been fostering in the mental state she is in.
charybdis
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by puppetangel:
“I think anyone in life who crosses her, she'll focus all her attention on them and all grief and target them. Just so happened to be Jim on there...the rest of the house even Luisa have changed since she's gone....Luisa and Jim are able to have a conversation and discuss how they feel whereas Linda would jump in and start shouting sexist and stop conversations....she wanted to control the agenda...she turned on Dappy and wouldnt forgive him for nominating her when its a game and he was really sorry.


If he'd said something about Coleen then coleen would have said something whilst Linda was in the house to defend her, if it was as simple as that Linda would have said so in the house, in the VT going in she talked about getting him thrown out of a nightclub. Everything she's said since she came out of the house I dont believe.”

I think the OP has made some very good points and blows the BBBOTS people out of the water.
I too, puppetangel, don't believe anything she has said since coming out of the house and I don't believe some of the things she said in there. A shame she is so eaten up with bitterness, it's a bad thing to carry with you for all these years and it will eat her away. Just hope that her family will encourage her to get help. Not liking or getting on with someone is understandable but from what I observed, the depth of her feelings were so palpable that my personal opinion is that she needs professional counselling.
I thought that she got worse because she expected Jim to snap and be thrown out and it didn't happen. Shame they were ever put in the house together and hope BB has learned a lesson and not just sit counting the benefits they have reaped.
jazzyjazzy
26-01-2014
On another thread someone read a piece by Coleen where she said the incident in the wings of the stage was a drunk JD asking Shane Richie which Nolan he was sleeping with (or a similar words)
JJ69
26-01-2014
I think once you cross a Nolan that's it for life...you are on their hit list and nothing you do will take you off it. Ask Shane Ritchie!!!
GreenEyes8
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by JJ69:
“I think once you cross a Nolan that's it for life...you are on their hit list and nothing you do will take you off it. Ask Shane Ritchie!!!”

LOL....Seems so ...
teresagreen
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“Quote [2. Jim - pissed up - once jibed The Nolans from the wings of some stage (I take it by '16 year old sister she meant Colleen who around that age joined her Sisters in the group)]Unquote.


We only have Lindas word for this from her bitter mouth so we do not know that is true. Her comment that "Jim was drunk and won't remember" smells of a lie imo.

I sincerely hope Jim's lawyers will be on Linda's back for the accusations she is making about him ”

I was just trying to type that out and got meself muddled. You put it much bettter.
Stardust365
26-01-2014
Back in the day, the ONLY Nolan sister I didn't like was Linda. Bernie was the voice of the Nolans (as in, the one who could actually sing) and yes if I'm honest, I even like Coleen (although that doesn't seem to be a popular thing to say these days) But for some reason I could never take to Linda.

She seemed to be the 'tart' of the group and always loved the glamour and attention which she mostly got from Northern pubs, clubs and television shows. Anyway, I really hoped her being in CBB would help me grow to like her and warm to her, I thought to myself 'maybe she's a tart with a heart' so I wanted to give her a chance.... but guess what, it didn't work! All I saw was a very very bitter, cocky and sulky cow on my telly who could turn grapes sour with one of those "I've got it in for you" looks that she kept pulling. Linda wasn't even talented in the Nolans and had nothing really to offer the entertainment world in my opinion.

Btw, great theory. I agree with a lot of what you have said there
Angie_Plasty
26-01-2014
Isn't it more likely that she simply just doesn't like him? That most of the times she crossed paths with him back in the day he was drunk and obnoxious, and for those reasons she doesn't respect or trust him, as most of us would with a drunken bore?

Isn't that how it works with all of us in life?
AMS13
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by jazzyjazzy:
“On another thread someone read a piece by Coleen where she said the incident in the wings of the stage was a drunk JD asking Shane Richie which Nolan he was sleeping with (or a similar words)”



Goodness, Coleen on damage limitation, never thought I would see the day. However, if that is true then Linda so needs help.
Rockville
26-01-2014
Great post OP, I particularly liked the "don't take the hate away from me as well" part... Going into the house it's all she had (well that and the "I was on benefits" shock admission which no one cared about anyway as it's not shocking to learn that a washed up entertainer isn't being offered work) . Maybe she thought calling Jim sexist was an easy route to popularity, underestimating the public's ability to move on and judge someone by their behaviour today, and not bear a grudge for decades as she does. Many young people wouldn't even know of the JD that told the sexist/racist jokes and certainly wouldn't listen to a sour faced woman with a vendetta and a generation gap a mile wide.

Linda Nolan is one of those people that doesn't like it when you know some dirt on her, her never ending excuses ("I only said it because he...", "he started it...") whilst never simply holding her hands up and saying she was wrong show that she never wants to be thought of as wanting, but Jim will know where a lot of the bodies are buried having been around the same business. She must hate him for that.
J.R
26-01-2014
I think you have made some very good points OP.
My own thought about the Frank Carson incident - for her to carry such hate for Jim over it - was that maybe they (Lindas hubby etc) had tried to talk Frank out of prosecuting him and it was Jim who persuaded him to go through with it. So if he hadn't done no one would have been any the wiser and things would have been different for her husband?!

I don't think it's merely dislike on Lindas part simply because she made it known she was going to goad him into blowing and that was confirmed by Colleen. Knowing he's had anger management that - to me - would be like tempting an ex alcoholic to drink! He was doing his best to change and she was set on doing her best to undo that.

She did what she said she would do as well - he didnt blow in the way she expected but of course he would give her some of it back - who wouldnt! On the whole he seemed quite restrained. Yes we only see 46 minutes out of a 24 hour day but none of them know or have control over which bits will be shown. Yes Jim will obviously have said more than we saw - but that applies to Linda too!

My sympathy for Linda is restricted to the fact that for whatever reason she is deeply unhappy - and there's no denying she has had things tough - but to take it out on Jim. to make him look bad just to make herself feel better over past hurts - is childish and mean spirited. She just keeps scratching a wound that wont heal.
yogacats
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Isn't it more likely that she simply just doesn't like him? That most of the times she crossed paths with him back in the day he was drunk and obnoxious, and for those reasons she doesn't respect or trust him, as most of us would with a drunken bore?

Isn't that how it works with all of us in life?”

No it isn't;

1; It's unnatural to hold a grudge for so long, particularly as Jim's 'misdemeanors' seem relatively minor. He didn't murder her sister, he made a crack at her!

2; If Jim was drunk at the time, then maybe he doesn't even remember the incidents? Lots of people get a bit obnoxious when they're drunk. If we all held a 30 year grudge against everyone that had been rude to us whilst drunk, it would be a very bad state of affairs.
Nosaer
26-01-2014
I think it is helpful to not to focus on the negative but to find those who are thoughtful and discuss with them. It is not so helpful to use such a discussion as an avenue to belittle less thoughtful posters.
Rockville
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by yogacats:
“No it isn't;

1; It's unnatural to hold a grudge for so long, particularly as Jim's 'misdemeanors' seem relatively minor. He didn't murder her sister, he made a crack at her!

2; If Jim was drunk at the time, then maybe he doesn't even remember the incidents? Lots of people get a bit obnoxious when they're drunk. If we all held a 30 year grudge against everyone that had been rude to us whilst drunk, it would be a very bad state of affairs.”

Agreed. Plus, unlike real life, she was on a TV show in front of the nation, a show where behaviour is judged and analysed. You would have thought she could have had some self control especially as her image seems all important to her.

Linda's hatred is so out of proportion to what she has announced he has done. It wouldn't surprise me if she started ramping up his "crimes" now she is out of the house and therefore unedited. It's a libel case waiting to happen!
Sasparella
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by J.R:
“I think you have made some very good points OP.
My own thought about the Frank Carson incident - for her to carry such hate for Jim over it - was that maybe they (Lindas hubby etc) had tried to talk Frank out of prosecuting him and it was Jim who persuaded him to go through with it. So if he hadn't done no one would have been any the wiser and things would have been different for her husband?!

I don't think it's merely dislike on Lindas part simply because she made it known she was going to goad him into blowing and that was confirmed by Colleen. Knowing he's had anger management that - to me - would be like tempting an ex alcoholic to drink! He was doing his best to change and she was set on doing her best to undo that.

She did what she said she would do as well - he didnt blow in the way she expected but of course he would give her some of it back - who wouldnt! On the whole he seemed quite restrained. Yes we only see 46 minutes out of a 24 hour day but none of them know or have control over which bits will be shown. Yes Jim will obviously have said more than we saw - but that applies to Linda too!

My sympathy for Linda is restricted to the fact that for whatever reason she is deeply unhappy - and there's no denying she has had things tough - but to take it out on Jim. to make him look bad just to make herself feel better over past hurts - is childish and mean spirited. She just keeps scratching a wound that wont heal.”

BIB and that's exactly why I don't like her, she set out deliberately to harm him from the outset for a one, maybe 2 slights over 20 years ago. People keep harping on about how Jim has a bad reputation in the showbiz world, yet no mention is made of the fact that Linda has just as bad a reputation for being bitchy and difficult to work with in that world too. You're right, she definitely comes over as childish and VERY mean spirited. She kept whining that he didn't stay up and drink and join in the fun with the rest, while also mentioning that he was horrible when drunk, so why would she want him to stay up and drink if she knew he'd get horrible ? I think we know the answer to that, she'd have more chance of making him blow if he had. Unfortunately for her Jim seems to restrict his drinking to a couple of glasses of red wine and leaves it at that. her plan failed because of his rehab and therapy and she's so gutted about that ! I really wish that she'd get some therapy for herself, for her own sake, she might enjoy the rest of her life then instead of frittering it away on hatred which should be left in the past.
Kay2000
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Isn't it more likely that she simply just doesn't like him? That most of the times she crossed paths with him back in the day he was drunk and obnoxious, and for those reasons she doesn't respect or trust him, as most of us would with a drunken bore?

Isn't that how it works with all of us in life?”

Erm no! I was bullied terribly by a girl at school, and I mean terribly, this girl, now a woman lives in my street, and she is lovely, never thought I would say that about her, you can't judge people on what they were like over 20yrs ago, and in my opinion, to hold a grudge for so many years tells a lot more about the person that holds the grudge.
Rockville
26-01-2014
I've just seen that Linda has given an interview to the Daily Star saying Jim's comments made her slash her wrists (see Daily Star thread).

If this is a continued attempt to make him out to be a monster, she is wasting her time. All is does is make her look like she needs mental health help.
Cornish Girl
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Rockville:
“I've just seen that Linda has given an interview to the Daily Star saying Jim's comments made her slash her wrists (see Daily Star thread).

If this is a continued attempt to make him out to be a monster, she is wasting her time. All is does is make her look like she needs mental health help.”

I can't believe that Big Brother didn't remove her from the house if she is that unstable. On the other side of that though, they obviously didn't think that Jim had said/done enough to warrant her actions, otherwise HE would have been removed from the house. I don't think we will ever hear the genuine reason for her hatred of him. Linda said in her interview with Emma that she doesn't hate him, she dislikes him. From where I'm sitting, I would say she was obsessed with the man. That goes beyond dislike.
Betty Britain
26-01-2014
I've just been on the Linda Nolan website
Brian was the nolans tour managerafter he and Linda married in 1981, but the rest of the sisters sacked him and Linda then left the group in 1983 .. Linda then went on to do some raunchy photos and labelled herself "the naughty Nolan"
It was two years later Brian stole from Frank Carson and I believe this will of affected her career
Betty Britain
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“BIB and that's exactly why I don't like her, she set out deliberately to harm him from the outset for a one, maybe 2 slights over 20 years ago. People keep harping on about how Jim has a bad reputation in the showbiz world, yet no mention is made of the fact that Linda has just as bad a reputation for being bitchy and difficult to work with in that world too. You're right, she definitely comes over as childish and VERY mean spirited. She kept whining that he didn't stay up and drink and join in the fun with the rest, while also mentioning that he was horrible when drunk, so why would she want him to stay up and drink if she knew he'd get horrible ? I think we know the answer to that, she'd have more chance of making him blow if he had. Unfortunately for her Jim seems to restrict his drinking to a couple of glasses of red wine and leaves it at that. her plan failed because of his rehab and therapy and she's so gutted about that ! I really wish that she'd get some therapy for herself, for her own sake, she might enjoy the rest of her life then instead of frittering it away on hatred which should be left in the past.”

It looks to me like Linda's plan to make Jim the bad guy and her his victim,failed miserably and now she is going after him in the media .i do hope Jim comes out the house and says nothing about her.
Betty Britain
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by jazzyjazzy:
“On another thread someone read a piece by Coleen where she said the incident in the wings of the stage was a drunk JD asking Shane Richie which Nolan he was sleeping with (or a similar words)”

Is that it the way Linda was talking you would of thought Jim was all over Coleen ... Wow Linda has issues
HonestLee
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Stardust365:
“Back in the day, the ONLY Nolan sister I didn't like was Linda. Bernie was the voice of the Nolans (as in, the one who could actually sing) and yes if I'm honest, I even like Coleen (although that doesn't seem to be a popular thing to say these days) But for some reason I could never take to Linda.

She seemed to be the 'tart' of the group and always loved the glamour and attention which she mostly got from Northern pubs, clubs and television shows. Anyway, I really hoped her being in CBB would help me grow to like her and warm to her, I thought to myself 'maybe she's a tart with a heart' so I wanted to give her a chance.... but guess what, it didn't work! All I saw was a very very bitter, cocky and sulky cow on my telly who could turn grapes sour with one of those "I've got it in for you" looks that she kept pulling. Linda wasn't even talented in the Nolans and had nothing really to offer the entertainment world in my opinion.

Btw, great theory. I agree with a lot of what you have said there ”

Ha me too

Linda has unfortunately lived up to the hype and old rep even more than JD

Great replies peeps, keep 'em coming but keep to the OP
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