Lol it's like someone saying "let me tell you a secret" and then not telling you

Or I have a secret and dancing around going la de da de dah. Infuriating.

But see I am back on the thread I swore I would keep away from. No willpower me.

I think from leaving Emma to entering BOTS she had been briefed and indeed it was a ploy as you say

We haven't heard the end of it from Linda although I doubt we'll ever know the real reason to her unhealthy fixation for Jim.. there's always a story if you keep stuff back

Jim's a bit of a contradiction though. When Louisa gave her face to face nomination I thought that was funny exactly in the vein of his kind of humour but he hated it and responded with ony the bile and none of the fun. He has now told Louis that it actually hurt him which was I think as surprising to her as it was to the viewers.

I remember the incident that patsy mentioned and that was weird. He was joking we gathered but it was one of those is he isn't he moments and Linda actually did take that quite well though a few days later even and there would have been a shouting match.

It occurred to me if that was the kind of thing Linda was suggesting that Jim kept doing and as much as we obviously haven't seen everything we also don't really know how things affect people. That incident could have been the beginning of the end for Linda and that incident could be indicative of Jim deliberately trying to wind her up but we can't always judge just like the idea that Jim could have been hurt by someone swearing at him

Do you really not realise the comment from Jim was in jest. Linda was slagging off a celebrity when Jim said he knew what her game was. He went on to explain she slagged him off and he appeared, he then commented that the victim of her insults would appear, laughter followed.
So another anti Jim lie debunked.

Yes i agree, she has a brown nose now.

And that's it exactly.

By mentioning it many times, Linda has managed to excite the interest she has said she doesn't want. She wants to keep quiet.

Well why mention it then??

Yes i was very hurt AN

Thanks for the apology though, very decent of you. I made a decision that if anyone said anything rude or hurtful on here to me and sometimes to thers, I would try and turn it into a joke. Not that this was rude or hurtful but might as well have a laugh eh?

OP I wrote this the other day, maybe some of it addresses where you're coming from..


Theory on Linda
Purely conjecture..

but..

I think for Linda Jim is symbolic of her and her familys tough times and although he has done things personally to her in the past I think it's more what she feels he represents than the actual 'doing' on his part

Ok so what DO WE KNOW about their past?

1. Jim was a mate of Frank Carson and would've been quite present and probably vocal through the shame and probable ostracisation of Lindas Husband due to the much talked about court case and resulting prosecution

2. Jim - pissed up - once jibed The Nolans from the wings of some stage (I take it by '16 year old sister she meant Colleen who around that age joined her Sisters in the group)

Where was Jim when she was 'standing by her man' on what probably felt like a sinking ship?

He was going from strength to strength, Generation Game - Big Break - prime-time weekend tv slots

What were 'The Nolans' going through at this time?

They were a joke in the industry(sorry Nolan fans) but they came in with a Disco anthem just as Disco breathed its last breath under the foot of the harder-edged New Wave, one of The Skids was alleged to have spat on their Dressing Room door at Top Of The Pops (vehemently denied later by band member Richard Jobson) but it was what they represented at 'that time' that was at odds with the cultural shift more than them as individuals - even if rumours are correct that Linda was a bit of a pain in the arse in the trade too

But being essentially just eye-candy bubblegum Pop their time in the sun was brief and their fall from the 'heights of success' would I'm sure have been both painful and humiliating especially with the 'new' baying for 'their brand of entertainments' blood

I think Linda puts it all on Jim

When you feel 'wronged' the thought of anyone who you don't feel deserves their breaks is amplified

Jim by his own admission was a drinker and an arsehole back then, to see him doing so well would've annoyed her I'm sure, especially with his attachment to her hubbys history

Talking of her Hubby.. it's just common sense that Jim would've featured plenty in those late pillow 'pep-up' talks between he and Linda, I'm sure there were a million bonding 'I know you're not a thief's and 'f*** Jim Davidson's between them

Maybe he carried that to the grave and she can't undo it for fear of failing him?

Maybe she knows deep down it's daft but has to keep up it out of loyalty?

Maybe letting it go is too hard for her as to her it might feel like letting go of yet another part of him and the things that 'were' in their world? death is difficult

Jim had a bad rep

SHE had a bad rep too

They should both know better than to operate from rumour so if it's merely the FC dressing room thing + the pissed up jibing + the rep then surely there's room for reconciliation, I'm sure if she'd have taken 1 step to Jim he'd have taken 2 towards her, he's almost made a living out of being judged so I'm sure her digs only dumped her - for him - in a big room with a 'lot' of people and pulled the side of him out that any of us would want to keep locked giving weight to her narrative of him

Just the way she did the whole 'Don't try to be a friend' thing with Jim sounded to me like 'you'll not take the hate away, you'll not take THAT too'

So basically that's my theory, I think she sees him as the embodiment of her darkest times, the fact she didn't feel convicted enough to lay her cards on the table and tell him straight tells me she knows that her gripes of 'him specifically wouldn't carry enough weight to warrant her disdain of him

I wish her well though, she's been through an awful lot and I'm sure Jim would wholeheartedly say the same, we've all done/said something regrettable when p'd up, he's held his hands up and I hope she can too

Thanks for that. I love the fact that you've taken the time to respond in depth.

As Judge Judy says () if it looks like a dog and smells like a dog it's a dog. Perhaps I am looking for something that just isn't there, maybe it is a simple as you say. I can see how it would be that by hanging onto that grudge she is still connecting and staying loyal to her husband.

And yet....

It feels to me like there is something that she isn't saying, and that by NOT saying it she hangs onto a measure of control over Jim. I think Jim has an idea what it is but why would he offer himself up, he has enough critics as it is and after his last year probably wants to let everything lie unless it leaps out and bites him.

By mentioning that she's not going to talk about it she just tries to whip him into submission and get him to explode so that she can say I told you so. She also by doing this gets people to imagine much worse things of Jim. This is the bit that hasn't worked and she could be very disappointed by this.

As you can see from my opening post, I would rather she just spits it out and then at least Jim can deal with any flack or defend himself. But is that what Linda wants? I think not.

The charges against JD that were dropped last year.... Was it made public who made the allegations? I'm wondering if LN is bitter because she was one of the people whose complaint got thrown out for being untrue

If I recall correctly, he was making a joke, as in, when they entered the house her vt mentioned Jim in an unflattering light, he was alluding to, "be careful, I bet THEY walk in now"!!

Jim isn't whiter than white

Its just that his reputation all too easily proceeds him

it's even easier to put a negative spin on ANYTHING he does to fit your narrative if you're working from a 'just what I've heard alone about JD I don't like him' standpoint

I saw the 'what do you mean by that's from Linda and they were embarrassing in both their increasing frequency and pettiness

None of us want to be associated let alone judged for dumb s*** we did/said 30 years ago

If Linda has a good enough reason then we'd have heard it

She hasn't so we won't

If you're THAT convicted with your reason you take it to the highest court, not just stand there and allow the public to ridicule you or side with someone who you think in the wrong

As I said in my other post about this - Jim is symbolic of a lot of bad episodes in her life and if that WASN'T the case then it sure is now because she's been in a negative mindset - by her own admission - and Jim being there brought it all up

I really hope this whole Jim episode 'pops the spot' as it were for her, and that her bumping into him again in life can for once result in something positive

It appears that Linda has now deleted her Twitter account.

The real issue is that Linda Nolan wanted to win CBB and she knew she could only do so if she could get Jim Davison to walk or be kicked out.

Don't tell me, Jim made people tweet her nasty messages so she had to delete it

I don't blame her I can't begin to think the type of messages she has probably recieved...

After they receive their money they will be Bessie mates

Before they even entered the house she slagged Jim off by refering to his drinking, she was already laying the foundations for her get Jim out plan. When her "i know whats hes talking about, my husband is dead not here to defend himself" routine didnt work, she then went to plan B (which i noticed she pulled out her bag, after she sat there listening to Jim telling Liz about the time he got arrested and his legal team stepped in) We then got he said something to my young 16 year old sister in front of me, at the side of a stage before a show. If it was as bad as she alleged wouldnt a loving caring protective sister reported it, and how come this as only been mentioned 30 years after the alleged episode. Nice try Linda but no cigar.

This is very true

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And ffs she needs to stop blaming Jim Davidson for everything and using him as her whipping boy.

Patsy - I'm with you 100%. I've kind of lost the will to battle anymore though.

I don't think so. More likely she'll be dining out on her bitterness for another 30 years.

Works both ways - she won't be putting out any messages herself either.Hooray!