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hackney gal
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Kwazykat61:
“Agree ...



I'm pretty sure she had a choice and a big fat pay cheque tbh”

Even so - all these issues

Well good on her if she picks up the dosh
hunkydory
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Yes, I know what you are saying, my sister had breast cancer and odaema on her arm. My point was that there was no sign of damage as in cuts on her arm.”

i did'nt see any either the star headline slashed her wrist ott
at the very least
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Here we go again! ”

Actually NO!!! I was ACTUALLY interested!!! I did see the bandage she wore in the house and had read on DS about the condition that can arise from her cancer treatment and that the bandage WAS for swelling, I DID read on Wikipedia that in the past few years she WAS diagnosed as having a "serious skin condition on her arm"!!!! THAT is why I asked. Ed Gleave has tweeted that he SAW a wound on her arm, I, am NOT taking this as an absolute truth, I just wondered if maybe the condition was an explanation for what he saw!!
tomorrow
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Well said.

I thought that now she'd been evicted all this spite and hatred would stop. I should have known better.

Very depressing.”

Its Linda herself who spoke to newspapers about her alleged/claimed self harming, not because she wanted to self harm, but because Jim made her ...

This from a woman who fosters children
too_much_coffee
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“That was not aimed at you alone. It's also aimed at the usual and too often repeated cruel and often libelous comments about another person. There are many other threads all created to repeat this stuff. Wise up? Have you any idea how many mothers self harm when depressed. Take their children away? NO they are ill and are as likely to harm their children as any non depressed person is. How about stopping demonizing said person on forums with uneducated, vicious remarks. That will help her or anyone suffering from depression will it? This is a modern day witch hunt.Is it any wonder mental illness is still such a stigma with so mush ignorance, nastiness and cruelty around!”

Well said.
Flower Pot
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“That was not aimed at you alone. It's also aimed at the usual and too often repeated cruel and often libelous comments about another person. There are many other threads all created to repeat this stuff. Wise up? Have you any idea how many mothers self harm when depressed. Take their children away? NO they are ill and are as likely to harm their children as any non depressed person is. How about stopping demonizing said person on forums with uneducated, vicious remarks. That will help her or anyone suffering from depression will it? This is a modern day witch hunt.Is it any wonder mental illness is still such a stigma with so mush ignorance, nastiness and cruelty around!”

hear hear, i'm gobsmacked at the complete lack of understanding & compassion for a disease, the symptoms of which (irrational thoughts, irritability, short-temper, intolerance of others, anger, aggression, engaging in other reckless behavior etc etc etc) the sufferer can no more control than any other physical disease.
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“That was not aimed at you alone. It's also aimed at the usual and too often repeated cruel and often libelous comments about another person. There are many other threads all created to repeat this stuff. Wise up? Have you any idea how many mothers self harm when depressed. Take their children away? NO they are ill and are as likely to harm their children as any non depressed person is. How about stopping demonizing said person on forums with uneducated, vicious remarks. That will help her or anyone suffering from depression will it? This is a modern day witch hunt.Is it any wonder mental illness is still such a stigma with so mush ignorance, nastiness and cruelty around!”

Do the repeated "cruel and often libellous" comments about Jim upset you as much?? I doubt it!!! Information, now out there, concerning Linda came from Coleen!!! information that IMO should have been kept to herself. I don't WANT to know Lindas personal business and IMO it is completely inappropriate for it to be made public, we are where we are. Discussing information available on Wikipedia neither cruel OR libellous!!
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“hear hear, i'm gobsmacked at the complete lack of understanding & compassion for a disease, the symptoms of which (irrational thoughts, irritability, short-temper, intolerance of others, anger, aggression, engaging in other reckless behavior etc etc etc) the sufferer can no more control than any other physical disease.”

There is no lack of "understanding or compassion" for what is claimed is her issues, but to ignore the impact this would have as a foster parent is dishonest.

Do the symptoms YOU list seem appropriate where a foster carer is concerned!!
anne_666
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“Do the repeated "cruel and often libellous" comments about Jim upset you as much?? I doubt it!!! Information, now out there, concerning Linda came from Coleen!!! information that IMO should have been kept to herself. I don't WANT to know Lindas personal business and IMO it is completely inappropriate for it to be made public, we are where we are. Discussing information available on Wikipedia neither cruel OR libellous!!”

Have you read some of the fantasy and ignorance outside of any real evidence being spouted and simply to be cruel? Do you support that? I don't, no matter who it's about thank you!
patricia50
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by fredster:
“On BBBOTS last night, she had no dressings on her arms and they looked perfectly ok.”

Thats what I thought.
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“Have you read some of the fantasy and ignorance outside of any real evidence being spouted and simply to be cruel? Do you support that? I don't, no matter who it's about thank you!”

Would you mind replying to THEM then and NOT insinuating that just because I enquired about her serious skin condition I was being cruel!!!BTW!! MUCH of the information has came from both Linda and Coleen, information that IMO should have remained private.
anne_666
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“There is no lack of "understanding or compassion" for what is claimed is her issues, but to ignore the impact this would have as a foster parent is dishonest.

Do the symptoms YOU list seem appropriate where a foster carer is concerned!!”

That is for any professionals involved to decide, not for the laughable and ignorant, self appointed armchair psychologists/social workers on any forum to decide.
anne_666
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“Would you mind replying to THEM then and NOT insinuating that just because I enquired about her serious skin condition I was being cruel!!!”

I am really sorry for any offence to you, but I was replying to them.
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“That is for any professionals involved to decide, not for the laughable and ignorant, self appointed armchair psychologists/social workers on any forum to decide.”

REALLY!!! Social services would be remiss in their duty NOT to follow this up, she could absolutely still foster, but to NOT look into this would be negligence.
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I am really sorry for any offence to you, but I was replying to them.”

THANKYOU!! It was a genuine enquiry into, what I am quite sure, is authentic information, and wondered IF this is what maybe Ed Gleave saw!!
Flower Pot
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“There is no lack of "understanding or compassion" for what is claimed is her issues, but to ignore the impact this would have as a foster parent is dishonest.

Do the symptoms YOU list seem appropriate where a foster carer is concerned!!”

there is a MASS of lack of "understanding or compassion" littered throughout this forum, much of which is completely distasteful to read.

as for your 2nd part, as another poster has already mentioned, i'm here to discuss bb and the actions of people in there, not pour over their personal lives. i'm happy to leave that to the professionals (with far more experience & expertise than the vast majority of us) to consider, as i'm sure they will.
radiofree
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“That was not aimed at you alone. It's also aimed at the usual and too often repeated cruel and often libelous comments about another person. There are many other threads all created to repeat this stuff. Wise up? Have you any idea how many mothers self harm when depressed. Take their children away? NO they are ill and are as likely to harm their children as any non depressed person is. How about stopping demonizing said person on forums with uneducated, vicious remarks. That will help her or anyone suffering from depression will it? This is a modern day witch hunt.Is it any wonder mental illness is still such a stigma with so mush ignorance, nastiness and cruelty around!”

very good post. these accusations toward linda are really becoming upsetting to read. whether you like her as a bb housemate or not, surely a line has been crossed when the vitriol becomes so personal.
greenyone
26-01-2014
I really thought prejudice against people with Mental Health issues had improved in this country but obviously not going on some posts
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by Flower Pot:
“there is a MASS of lack of "understanding or compassion" littered throughout this forum, much of which is completely distasteful to read.

as for your 2nd part, as another poster has already mentioned, i'm here to discuss bb and the actions of people in there, not pour over their personal lives. i'm happy to leave that to the professionals (with far more experience & expertise than the vast majority of us) to consider, as i'm sure they will.”

My point of this thread was to point out that maybe the so called "wound" was nothing more "scandalous" than a medical condition.
anne_666
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“REALLY!!! Social services would be remiss in their duty NOT to follow this up, she could absolutely still foster, but to NOT look into this would be negligence.”

I'm certain that anyone involved with Linda and fostering is well aware of any problems she may have. Depressed women most often do their best to not make their children suffer as a consequence of their illness. To suggest otherwise is totally wrong and cruelly stigmatising in yet another way, depressive illness. Having looked at your previous posts now you have brought this up many times on other threads.
Flower Pot
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“My point of this thread was to point out that maybe the so called "wound" was nothing more "scandalous" than a medical condition.”

i understand that and so far as i can see, no-one has aimed anything personal at you but so many of these type threads very quickly decend into such vitriol against a woman who appears to be in quite a bleak place which makes for very unpleasant reading
summertime09
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I'm certain that anyone involved with Linda and fostering is well aware of any problems she may have. Depressed women most often do their best to not make their children suffer as a consequence of their illness. To suggest otherwise is totally wrong and cruelly stigmatising in yet another way, depressive illness. Having looked at your previous posts now you have brought this up many times on other threads.”

So are you claiming that I am unaware that parents with mental illness cannot be good parents?? I am NOT, WHAT I am saying is that when placing children in foster care if an individual has issues it would be negligent to ignore said issue. I smoke, I would NOT be permitted to be a foster carer or to adopt, don't think they will come and take MY children into care because I DO smoke.
anne_666
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“So are you claiming that I am unaware that parents with mental illness cannot be good parents?? I am NOT, WHAT I am saying is that when placing children in foster care if an individual has issues it would be negligent to ignore said issue. I smoke, I would NOT be permitted to be a foster carer or to adopt, don't think they will come and take MY children into care because I DO smoke.”

Originally Posted by anne_666:
“I'm certain that anyone involved with Linda and fostering is well aware of any problems she may have. Depressed women most often do their best to not make their children suffer as a consequence of their illness. To suggest otherwise is totally wrong and cruelly stigmatising in yet another way, depressive illness. Having looked at your previous posts now you have brought this up many times on other threads.”

I rally can't think of any more to say,so I've requoted my post?
riverside 57
26-01-2014
I find it so incredulous that people get so outraged by others' opinions on someone who has openly gone on a reality tv show and acted so bitterly hostile towards another contestant due to a grievance over 30 years old! She is not the only person ever to suffer from cancer and bereavement, and while I don't wish anything bad on the woman, she really needs to realise that having suffered these things does not give her free license to do and say what she likes without criticism. By going on CBB and subsequently to the papers makes her fair game for whatever flak people choose to give her. In all honesty, I think Linda Nolan should have steered well clear of all this, she is obviously in no fit state mentally to be on it. IMO of course!
eddeva
26-01-2014
Originally Posted by riverside 57:
“I find it so incredulous that people get so outraged by others' opinions on someone who has openly gone on a reality tv show and acted so bitterly hostile towards another contestant due to a grievance over 30 years old! She is not the only person ever to suffer from cancer and bereavement, and while I don't wish anything bad on the woman, she really needs to realise that having suffered these things does not give her free license to do and say what she likes without criticism. By going on CBB and subsequently to the papers makes her fair game for whatever flak people choose to give her. In all honesty, I think Linda Nolan should have steered well clear of all this, she is obviously in no fit state mentally to be on it. IMO of course!”

I agree. I remember many threads last year talking about lauren and whether or not she was stable enough to be in the house but people always reacted to these concerns saying that you have to be cleared by a psychologist before entering. if linda were suffering from a true mental problem would she have been allowed in the house? if linda cut herself deliberately wouldn't she have been removed?
the whole thing confuses me on every level.
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