Two statements have been made which indicate much more to the Linda Jim conflict.
Jim stated in his Louisa speech that there was more to it but that he wouldn't be the one to reveal. To me this indicates some level of chivalry perhaps? Nothing to do with Frank Carson's thieving or being an ass in the wings of a theatre, but this doesn't exclude frank Carson's dressing room being the location for rift in question.
Liz jones claims "I did in fact get to the bottom of what happened decades before in Frank Carson’s dressing room, a small dark place that now has its own Twitter account. But I told Big Brother I would not be revealing it as I was not about to upset a woman – even one who said on the show ‘I’m a Nolan not a nun’ "
So maybe Jim Carson's Dressing Room is keeping a bigger secret, maybe Jim declined an invitation to a tryst with Linda and her husband, maybe it was nothing so titilating, whatever it is, it seems it would do more to embarrass Linda than to shame Jim, whatever he's been guilty of in the past.
The Jim Linda conflict has caught my attention more than any other storyline on TV and I would love to know exactly what it is, highly unlikely, but I'd be very interested in any tid bits to satisfy my cravings, and I apologise if this thread is to similar to others I had to wait for thread posting privileges after only registering yesterday morning

Not similar and don't apologise. Welcome to DS.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

I wondered what Jim was on about to, he said it would not be coming from him, I think something else happened in Frank Carson's dressing room,and Linda used her husband as deflection, there is definitely more to Linda's hatred of Jim, perhaps we will never find out, mores the pity

I think that I really don't want to know TBH. It is their past and their secret. It is/was clear that there was mutual animosity and it is now evident that it caused psychological stress for Linda - probably Jim too. It's not pleasant to watch and I'm sure it wasn't pleasant for either of them.

I think it's a bit shameful that the production team put them together in a house in the name of entertainment.

Well said Penny - I completely agree with every word.

Good post. Whoever cooked up the idea should be quite embarrassed IMO.

Thanks

It's true, and I can't help but think, if Linda hadn't gone into the house on the offensive things could have worked out so differently, saying that I'm sure she'll make a few quid from petty allegations, but to the commenters that pity Linda and blame the producers- didn't she -just as everyone else did, sign a contract to enter the house in exchange for a fee? In my opinion that's fair game.
Especially as she has two legs and could walk out at anytime- the £££ clearly meant more to her than her mental health or professional credibility.

Probably a bunch of immature pimply youths with pimply bottoms .

Its a great shame that their feud took over BB and dominated the whole proceedings . Maybe Linda might have been a good, interesting HM and Jim might have annoyed some of the others . The only time we knew how a lot of the HMs felt about Jim was in the nomination process.

Maybe without Linda having her 'Jim' story the others might have dismissed her as 'the older lady' and found her 'boring', we will never know, they were in the house together and Jim is still in there.

I don't understand why she put herself in that position if it was anything that would affect her mental health is she really that desperate for money?

She knew the likelihood of him being in the BB was high and if what happened was really that bad why would she want to be in the same house as him never mind the same room.

Strange woman.

She presumably had an inkling he might be in there due to him being prevented from entering the previous year.
I think it's plausible that she may indeed have known before she went in, due to mentioning him on her VT.
What exactly has her sister Colleen said about her in regards to Jim Davidson in the house? I've read a few posts stating something like 'Colleen said Linda went in with the intention of challenging Jim' or somesuch.

I agree.

Yes, Colleen said exactly this when she appeared on BOTS, possibly the kind of thing a sister would presume as a way to justify Linda's behaviour though

When Jim is out of the house, he will have every right to defend himself against the bile spilled against him by the Nolan's.

I for one don't think it will be pretty and I have a feeling the Nolan's may well end up thinking they should not have said the things they did.

I would imagine that Jim has "known" Linda back in the 80's.
and probably turned her down for another go with her hubby watching.

It could well be the case.....for Linda to harbour that amount of bitterness, I reckon there's a sexual element to their history!

Linda said herself it was her intention to needle Jim into losing his temper - she said because she knew he would be on his best behaviour and she wanted to show him up for what he really was. Not an exact quote but definitely said by Linda in her initial interview right at the beginning of the show. Confirmed by Colleen later.

She also said at some point - but I can't remember where I'm afraid (possibly since she's been out?) that Jim was one of the four people she had listed as not wanting to share the house with - no doubt BB thought putting them together would be funny!!

Totally agree.

Easy to say. No one goes into the BB house expecting every single minute of their time in there that does not relate to someone they dislike to be edited out.

Presumably, yes. The ones who are somewhat well known seem to get between £50,000 and £150,000. That is quite a lot of money for most people to get for 3 weeks work.

Ha ha


Linda was very nearly still in there until last night, which is a shame imo; it would have scuppered their cruel plan to get Jasmine to bitch at Casey, while not allowing her to reply, as Lee would already have been out; and Linda could have had the quieter, kinder eviction. It was bad luck for her that Dappy nominated her, then immediately and bitterly regretted doing so.

No she didn't. She was surprisingly affectionate and friendly to him on the opening night, laughing and hugging him when she found that they were to be handcuffed together.

I hope Jim doesn't get into any kind of public slanging match with the Nolans when he comes out. His family have behaved with dignity the whole time Jim has been branded as the devil by Linda and Colleen. Hopefully with their support Jim can do the same.

Just wondering how the production team were meant to know how deep this rift was. I'm sure no one had a clue except the Nolans and Jim himself. It was well hinted at beforehand that Jim would be going into the house and so Linda could easily have declined and waited till the next CBB I'm not anti Linda but I certainly didn't enjoy her bitterness. In fact, I really hoped she would have used her time wisely and promoted herself but she blew it IMHO

I don't he'll bother TBH. Unlike Linda he has a life, he dropped the FCDR as a warning shot over the bows, the silly woman decided to make it public but lie (husband only confessed to get rid of the press on the doorstep - not) and I doubt she would feature on his radar.

In fact the more she goes on the higher his stock rises and the more he is in the public eye, so she's actually doing his PR for him for free! At the same time digging her own grave but that's her problem.

Well said Penny C.

I don't know if Jim knew Linda would be in the house. It was well publicised that he was going in but I hadn't seen Lindas name mentioned at all and she was a surprise to me.

Whether Jim expected to see her or not I don't think he thought for a minute that she would react to him the way she did. He probably thought they could manage to be friendly whilst in the house, maybe have a bit of a reminisce about the old days etc., pick up their fees and go their own ways. Unfortunately Linda, knowing Jim would be there, made a decision to let her CBB time be defined by Jim Davidson, the person she blames for all the bad in her life. How different it could have been if she could have curbed her bitterness. She might have been known for her fun side rather than as a shrew. Jim might have let his guard down and behaved badly. She may have been in the final. Jim could have gone early.

As it turns out Jim will probably win. even if he doesn't he will come out of there a much happier person than Linda. Linda will come to realise this soon when the papers stop asking for more stories knocking Jim Davidson. I hope she can find a way to get some peace in her life. She has definitely done more harm to her own image while Jim has vastly improved his.

It's just weird that Linda makes a point of wanting to needle him so badly based on his behaviour in a past incident, yet doesn't publicly want to say what happened? She gets all secretive and coy about it. I mean if you are going to make this the issue that defines you, at least explain it so the rest of us can understand!!

Whatever it is, it can't be something as innocuous as Linda 'doesn't like him'. I've watched Saturday night's episode & when the housemates had to go in & talk to Jim about their issues/stuff about life, the hatred that poured out of her when she complained to BB really surprised me. She was breathing like she was having a panic attack & it made her skin crawl to be alone in the same room as him...

So as much as I can see why people think she's bitter, there must be a much deeper reason why she's like that.