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Old 27-01-2014, 09:02
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Anyone here drink it?

I've read a bit lately on the benefits, mainly that our bodies are able to absorb more vitamins from the full-fat variety of milk, going along with the high protein, medium fat, low carb approach to eating.

Currently we buy semi-skimmed milk, but I don't drink it much anyway, I tend to cook with it or add a little to my tea.

From an article in the DailyMail:

"Many people have been put off whole milk because of its fat content, but whole full-fat milk is not actually a high-fat food. Generally, anything over 20 per cent is deemed high fat, but cows’ milk usually only contains between 3.7 per cent and 5  per cent fat per 100 ml - even if it is made with richer cows’ milk, such as Jersey cows’ milk. This compares with 48 per cent for truly high-fat foods, such as double cream.
Semi-skimmed and skimmed cows’ milk contain 1-1.5 per cent and 0.1 per cent fat respectively, so unless you drink gallons of the stuff, switching to semi-skimmed or skimmed is unlikely to make any great impact on your fat intake. Furthermore, skimmed and semi-skimmed cows’ milk is also less nutritious than whole milk. That’s because the cream contains the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K - important, among other things, for strengthening immunity to infections, neutralising the effects of damaging free radicals and keeping bones healthy."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ood-wrong.html

I know it's not the greatest news source, lol, but I have read about this on other sites. What do you think?
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Old 27-01-2014, 09:07
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I would say there is strong credence to full fat milk since people drank it during the 50's and 60's. Skimmmed and semi did not exist back then.

Taking the fat out of milk means faster absorption and therefore higher glycaemic load.

Skimmed milk is definitely a scam, it's mostly water. Semi Skimmed is good and a happy medium but is whole milk the best?
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Old 27-01-2014, 19:07
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Apparently semi-skimmed milk has more calcium
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Old 27-01-2014, 19:15
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I don't like the taste of full fat milk, much prefer semi skimmed or even better, skimmed, but then I'm not really a fan of milk.
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Old 27-01-2014, 20:17
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Organic milk has much more omega 3 interestingly

semi skimmed (organic) is my choice


full fat is just too thick, skimmed is like water
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Old 27-01-2014, 21:18
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I don't really like milk on its own but double cream is quite nice in freshly roasted coffee.
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Old 27-01-2014, 21:22
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Apparently semi-skimmed milk has more calcium
It should have more calcium that full fat because there's no calcium in fat. Interesting debate though - I was told skimmed milk was better than semi-skimmed for my low bone density, but maybe the vitamin D content in semi-skimmed milk helps the (albeit lesser amount of) calcium to be better absorbed by the body...
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Old 27-01-2014, 22:20
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I switched to full fat a couple of years ago as I figured the less food's been fiddled with the better. I don't think there's enough of a difference or that it constitutes a high enough proportion of one's diet to make any significant difference so now believe you should just buy what you prefer the taste of.
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Old 27-01-2014, 22:21
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Semi skimmed always tastes like water, so I use silver top instead.
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Old 28-01-2014, 15:53
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Anyone here drink it?

I've read a bit lately on the benefits, mainly that our bodies are able to absorb more vitamins from the full-fat variety of milk, going along with the high protein, medium fat, low carb approach to eating.

Currently we buy semi-skimmed milk, but I don't drink it much anyway, I tend to cook with it or add a little to my tea.

From an article in the DailyMail:

"Many people have been put off whole milk because of its fat content, but whole full-fat milk is not actually a high-fat food. Generally, anything over 20 per cent is deemed high fat, but cows’ milk usually only contains between 3.7 per cent and 5  per
cent fat per 100 ml - even if it is made with richer cows’ milk, such as Jersey cows’ milk. This compares with 48 per cent for truly high-fat foods, such as double cream.
Semi-skimmed and skimmed cows’ milk contain 1-1.5 per cent and 0.1 per cent fat respectively, so unless you drink gallons of the stuff, switching to semi-skimmed or skimmed is unlikely to make any great impact on your fat intake. Furthermore, skimmed and semi-skimmed cows’ milk is also less nutritious than whole milk. That’s because the cream contains the fat-soluble vitamins A, D, E and K - important, among other things, for strengthening immunity to infections, neutralising the effects of damaging free radicals and keeping bones healthy."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...ood-wrong.html

I know it's not the greatest news source, lol, but I have read about this on other sites. What do you think?
A,D,E,K can come from other sources. We don't need milk to get them and this puts me off it.

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/how...e-in-your-milk

That and the nearly 2 spoons of sugar a serving.
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Old 28-01-2014, 16:00
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A,D,E,K can come from other sources. We don't need milk to get them and this puts me off it.

http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/how...e-in-your-milk

That and the nearly 2 spoons of sugar a serving.
"It turns out that standard dairy cows are medicated with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) to stimulate a much higher than normal milk production. "

Is only in US cows - banned in Europe
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Old 28-01-2014, 16:13
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"It turns out that standard dairy cows are medicated with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) to stimulate a much higher than normal milk production. "

Is only in US cows - banned in Europe
Exactly. US welfare and food rules are totally different from those in the EU.

I have full fat milk as my specialist recommended me to have it. I find I actually use less as it keeps me fuller longer.

A small glass of full fat hits the same spot as a huge glass of semi or skimmed milk for me. (and tastes nicer!)
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Old 28-01-2014, 16:32
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Full-fat milk is far from the 'junk food' that is ready meals and fizzy pop, so I think people worry about it far too much.
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Old 28-01-2014, 17:39
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"It turns out that standard dairy cows are medicated with recombinant bovine growth hormone (rBGH) to stimulate a much higher than normal milk production. "

Is only in US cows - banned in Europe
My issue with it isn't what drugs are used to keep the cows producing milk, although I know drugs are used. My issue is that the fact we actually have restrictions on how much pus is a allowed means there is too much for my liking.
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Old 28-01-2014, 18:38
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Once in a while I love a glass of cold, full fat milk, however I rarely manage to polish off a whole pint I do feel guilty though because I waste so much. Semi-skilled tastes like water.
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Old 28-01-2014, 19:20
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My issue with it isn't what drugs are used to keep the cows producing milk, although I know drugs are used. My issue is that the fact we actually have restrictions on how much pus is a allowed means there is too much for my liking.
That whole article is about US milk. And the comments below are interesting... basically no such thing the article is going on about
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Old 28-01-2014, 19:25
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I've never liked semi-skimmed, far too watery.

When I was little (and that's only in the 1980s) we used to give skimmed milk to the pigs, as it was regarded as a by-product rather than something fit for people!

Good old silver top
(or blue-lid if you go by today's supermarket colours)
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:16
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I've never liked semi-skimmed, far too watery.

When I was little (and that's only in the 1980s) we used to give skimmed milk to the pigs, as it was regarded as a by-product rather than something fit for people!

Good old silver top
(or blue-lid if you go by today's supermarket colours)
Same here, never used semi-skimmed or skimmed.

As you say, they were originally given to pigs as waste by-products from other processed. I bet the dairy industry couldn't believe their luck when people actually started to buy it! Talk about money for old rope.
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:24
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I like semi skimmed in tea but whole milk for cooking or coffee. Skimmed is nice really cold as a drink.
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:30
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I drink skimmed 0.9% I don't drink full fat cause of my stomach. I had panctreatitis in 2012 due to gallstones, so no fatty food for me
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Old 30-01-2014, 17:37
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That whole article is about US milk. And the comments below are interesting... basically no such thing the article is going on about
This one is from the UK. The number of cells that indicates significant infection is 300,000 per ml. The UK limit is 400,000.

http://www.dairyco.org.uk/technical-.../#.UuqLWdGYbmQ
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Old 30-01-2014, 18:35
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Same here, never used semi-skimmed or skimmed.

As you say, they were originally given to pigs as waste by-products from other processed. I bet the dairy industry couldn't believe their luck when people actually started to buy it! Talk about money for old rope.
Or perhaps they simply realised times changed and people are more conscious about saturated fats in their diets? Or of course, others simply prefer the taste? Just a thought.....
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Old 30-01-2014, 18:54
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There was a programme about fat vs sugar on tv last night and whilst a diet high in one or the other has negative effects, moderate amounts of both are not a huge problem.

However, a study on rats found that fat and sugar TOGETHER can be highly addictive, such as in processed junk food. The rats offered just sugar were able to eat moderately, the rats offered just fat were able to eat moderately but those offered a fatty AND sugary substance had a poor off switch.
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Old 30-01-2014, 19:08
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There was a programme about fat vs sugar on tv last night and whilst a diet high in one or the other has negative effects, moderate amounts of both are not a huge problem.

However, a study on rats found that fat and sugar TOGETHER can be highly addictive, such as in processed junk food. The rats offered just sugar were able to eat moderately, the rats offered just fat were able to eat moderately but those offered a fatty AND sugary substance had a poor off switch.
The programme last night was 2 people on vague diets that took no account of how they were planning to test the outcomes or what the body needs. Also 2 identical people is not a study that can be extrapolated to the effects on everyone. It was extremely misleading.
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Old 30-01-2014, 19:39
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My issue with it isn't what drugs are used to keep the cows producing milk, although I know drugs are used. My issue is that the fact we actually have restrictions on how much pus is a allowed means there is too much for my liking.
How do you feel about insects in your food?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foo..._Action_Levels
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