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Old 28-01-2014, 20:47
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Michael Jackson's music was not really pop music

it was a mixture R&B, soul and funk

pop music is like the Spice Girls or Britney Spears - catchy tunes with very little soul

Michael Jackson's style was a lot like James Brown with the grunts and the raspy vocals.
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Old 28-01-2014, 22:25
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'As a genre, pop music is very eclectic, often borrowing elements from other styles including urban, dance, rock, Latin and country.'

That somes up the majority of his music pretty well.

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Old 28-01-2014, 22:42
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Michael Jackson's music was not really pop music

it was a mixture R&B, soul and funk

pop music is like the Spice Girls or Britney Spears - catchy tunes with very little soul

Michael Jackson's style was a lot like James Brown with the grunts and the raspy vocals.
He wasn't the king of R&B, soul and funk either. Not by a long shot. Compared with the jazz funk and R&B music I listen to, his music was just pop. Most of it nothing special.

I much prefer Janet Jackson's music.

Janet Jackson - The Pleasure Principle (Long Vocal Remix) [janeticon.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI2qIYj2xuE

Janet Jackson - When I Think Of You [Dance Remix]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8949IsfBtk4

Janet Jackson Control Extended Mix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZQVhCEazt8

etc.
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Old 28-01-2014, 22:49
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Isn't pop just short for popular?
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Old 28-01-2014, 22:53
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Isn't pop just short for popular?
Yep.

I await this read been turned into the following

Jackson was a peado
Jackson wasnt that great
Jackson was overrated
Jackson didnt play own instruments

And bla bla bla
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Old 28-01-2014, 23:02
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Yep.

I await this read been turned into the following

Jackson was a peado
Jackson wasnt that great
Jackson was overrated
Jackson didnt play own instruments

And bla bla bla
This is the music forum. Please stop trying to stir up trouble. Keep it to GD or maybe Showbiz. This is a critique about his music, not his personal life.
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Old 28-01-2014, 23:10
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Ugh. Not again.
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Old 28-01-2014, 23:29
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Not sure I can think of a more influential male pop artist so yes. Before anyone mentions Elvis, he was the king of rock and roll.
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Old 29-01-2014, 00:53
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It was just a nickname his management took way too seriously.
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Old 29-01-2014, 08:28
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It is true, he is a great musician. His music is definitely pop.
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Old 29-01-2014, 09:00
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This is the music forum. Please stop trying to stir up trouble. Keep it to GD or maybe Showbiz. This is a critique about his music, not his personal life.
But threads which are *supposed* to critique his music inevitably turn into arguments about something which has nothing to do with his music. His music *and* his personal life have been discussed and critiqued ad nauseum on this forum. Hasn't everything which needs to be said already been said?
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Old 29-01-2014, 09:14
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Yep.

I await this read been turned into the following

Jackson was a peado
Jackson wasnt that great
Jackson was overrated
Jackson didnt play own instruments

And bla bla bla
Fingers crossed that won't happen. This is the music forum. For people with enough brain cells differentiate the man from the music. Hopefully.
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Old 29-01-2014, 10:08
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This is the music forum. Please stop trying to stir up trouble. Keep it to GD or maybe Showbiz. This is a critique about his music, not his personal life.
First off dont accuse me of stiring trouble on here, maybe you should look up past threads about jackson in the music forum here were threads get hijacked, hence my comments.
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Old 29-01-2014, 13:22
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He wasn't the king of R&B, soul and funk either. Not by a long shot. Compared with the jazz funk and R&B music I listen to, his music was just pop. Most of it nothing special.
I agree with you. Much of The Jacksons output was r&b/soul, especially after they dropped the 5 off of their name, but very little of his solo material was anything other than absolute pop. Personally, I think he was the most overhyped artist of all time but that's just imho.

Solo Jackson wise, my favourite song is definitely Jermaine with Lets Get Serious
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Old 29-01-2014, 13:35
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It was just a nickname his management took way too seriously.
exactly...it was a marketing ploy aimed at boosting the stars image (regardless of who said it first)in order to boost his credibility.

theres no such title, its meaningless, if anybody should get that title its paul mccartney because he (along with john) has done more for pop music then anyone.

It is true, he is a great musician. .
was he?... thought he was a singer, who danced...
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Old 29-01-2014, 13:37
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I agree with you. Much of The Jacksons output was r&b/soul, especially after they dropped the 5 off of their name, but very little of his solo material was anything other than absolute pop. Personally, I think he was the most overhyped artist of all time but that's just imho.
... and this meaningless tag 'king of pop' proves it.
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Old 29-01-2014, 13:52
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And here we go!
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Old 29-01-2014, 15:56
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Short answer..........Yes
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Old 29-01-2014, 17:03
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...all replies were on topic
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Old 29-01-2014, 18:02
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First off dont accuse me of stiring trouble on here, maybe you should look up past threads about jackson in the music forum here were threads get hijacked, hence my comments.
You're doing precisely the same thing I am accusing you of. Have you got anything to say about MJs music, i.e. keep it on topic?

I agree with you. Much of The Jacksons output was r&b/soul, especially after they dropped the 5 off of their name, but very little of his solo material was anything other than absolute pop. Personally, I think he was the most overhyped artist of all time but that's just imho.

Solo Jackson wise, my favourite song is definitely Jermaine with Lets Get Serious
Michael did some classics of course and certainly sold enough copies of his music, so obviously lots of people like his music. He doesn't float my boat though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael...ms_discography
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Old 29-01-2014, 19:09
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Yes it is. And y'all can debate it 'til the cows come home, the title will always belong to him, made up or not...
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Old 29-01-2014, 20:06
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You're doing precisely the same thing I am accusing you of. Have you got anything to say about MJs music, i.e. keep it on topic

So who made you moderator????


Yes it is. And y'all can debate it 'til the cows come home, the title will always belong to him, made up or not...
This excatly.

The beatles have got a tag line in history
Madonna has a tag line in history
Elvis has a tag line in history
Backstreet boys same thing
Spice girls same thing
Nirvana same thing
Abba same thing
Beegee's same thing

Loads of tags go around that stick and are written in musical history and jackson will always be known as the king of pop no matter how many people say hes not or he is. Its in the history books and when people say who was the king of pop people will naturally reply michael jackson. Unless you hated the person not e musician.

Now was that on topic
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Old 29-01-2014, 20:44
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Yes, yes it is.
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Old 29-01-2014, 21:09
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was he?... thought he was a singer, who danced...

He is a musician, he made music.
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Old 29-01-2014, 21:29
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More like the Lion King (because lions are the King of Beasts)

It was a self proclaimed title. If it was a title that had filtered through via fans or press then it would be something. Or a nickname that caught on like 'The Boss'
But to turn around and proclaim himself 'King of Pop', around about the time he had to prop up his History album with a greatest hits disc, is bullshit.

If I call myself the King of Drinking Guinness it doesn't make it so.
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