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Old 30-01-2014, 00:47
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Wow theres a surprise

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5200f3be-8...44feab7de.html
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Old 30-01-2014, 00:48
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Not really. Lenovo were looking to buy for ages.
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Old 30-01-2014, 00:53
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Maybe but still a big back track from Google lot of money for a few patents
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Old 30-01-2014, 01:06
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The BBC news site is clearly not run by anyone with a brain as they appear believe that Motorola owned the patent for Android.

Not to big a surprise that Lenovo brought as they been wanting a way to get there name out there in western markets using the Motorola brand name will help that a lot. Though it does mean Moto maker has literally no chance of happening in Europe now. Also imagine stock android will be replaced by UI.
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Old 30-01-2014, 01:18
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Nah. Old news. It was in this forum at 22:20 a bit before the FT published at 22:21

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...37&postcount=6
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Old 30-01-2014, 06:49
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That could be latest android updates stopped!
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Old 30-01-2014, 07:18
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That was quick.
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Old 30-01-2014, 07:34
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Good news for Motorola mobility but a big hit for Google who are nearly $10 billion down after 1 year!

Lenovo have some good handsets of their own and this deal will possibly give them better distribution into may world markets for those as well as the excellent new range of value for money Motorola products.
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Old 30-01-2014, 07:40
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The Lenovo guy was all about how they can jump in and benefit from Motorola's position, but Google is selling them because of their bad results.
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Old 30-01-2014, 07:48
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For those of us without an FT subscription can someone summarise the article?
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Old 30-01-2014, 08:00
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Good news for Motorola mobility but a big hit for Google who are nearly $10 billion down after 1 year!

Lenovo have some good handsets of their own and this deal will possibly give them better distribution into may world markets for those as well as the excellent new range of value for money Motorola products.
Er Google are keeping the patents and the tech division

Lenovo make pretty decent tech and have traction in the corporate sector. Buy a Thinkpad and a get a Moto X/G. Not sure how this translates to the current handsets as Motorola have been hanging on to their high end phone tech. Hopefully we will see a top end Motorola now.
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Old 30-01-2014, 08:08
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The Lenovo guy was all about how they can jump in and benefit from Motorola's position, but Google is selling them because of their bad results.
Its more likely to do with the patent deal with Samsung, no direct hardware competition. But now we may get a Motorola Nexus

There are rumours that Samsung also got Google to ditch the Nexus line as part of the patent deal. Moving to Google Play versions means no more cheap phones, but by selling Motorola - perhaps they have outsmarted Samsung by letting Lenovo release cheap smartphones?
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Old 30-01-2014, 08:19
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I'll post what I said in another thread. Google have been very smart here. They didn't lose any money. Google actually netted $1.5B because of Motorola's cash reserves and tax breaks. They split the company up. They haven't sold all of Motorola to Lenovo. Google still own all the patents.

It was a very clever from Google because they've managed to exert control over two OEMs who were going rogue so to speak. In 2011, Motorola was threatening to sue other Android OEMs and then literally days later, Google announced that they were buying the company. That way they got all of Motorola's patents and solved the issue.

But they must have known that it would annoy Samsung. So they used Motorola as leverage to force Samsung's hand. Meaning, if Samsung agreed to cross license their patents and drop Touchwiz/Magazine UI in favour of a more stock experience, they would sell Motorola. This is exactly what happened and Google now have Samsung back under control.
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Old 30-01-2014, 08:52
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Er Google are keeping the patents and the tech division

Lenovo make pretty decent tech and have traction in the corporate sector. Buy a Thinkpad and a get a Moto X/G. Not sure how this translates to the current handsets as Motorola have been hanging on to their high end phone tech. Hopefully we will see a top end Motorola now.
It that true? Some of the articles have implied that the purchase by google included 17,000 patents, and that 10,000 patents are going to Lenovo, although google will still hold license to use them.

That would mean google paid over $10B for 7,000 patents. It would be nice to know how long it will take to google to get their money back in license fees?

Makes you wonder why they bought it in the first place.
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Old 30-01-2014, 08:55
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I'll post what I said in another thread. Google have been very smart here. They didn't lose any money. Google actually netted $1.5B because of Motorola's cash reserves and tax breaks. They split the company up. They haven't sold all of Motorola to Lenovo. Google still own all the patents.

It was a very clever from Google because they've managed to exert control over two OEMs who were going rogue so to speak. In 2011, Motorola was threatening to sue other Android OEMs and then literally days later, Google announced that they were buying the company. That way they got all of Motorola's patents and solved the issue.

But they must have known that it would annoy Samsung. So they used Motorola as leverage to force Samsung's hand. Meaning, if Samsung agreed to cross license their patents and drop Touchwiz/Magazine UI in favour of a more stock experience, they would sell Motorola. This is exactly what happened and Google now have Samsung back under control.
Interesting. So they bought Motorola to screw samsung and now they will all live happily ever after

Didn't realise Samsung had agreed to scrape touchwiz, shame really as a lot of people appeared to like it.
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Old 30-01-2014, 09:19
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It that true? Some of the articles have implied that the purchase by google included 17,000 patents, and that 10,000 patents are going to Lenovo, although google will still hold license to use them.

That would mean google paid over $10B for 7,000 patents. It would be nice to know how long it will take to google to get their money back in license fees?

Makes you wonder why they bought it in the first place.
it's not about getting their money back.

it's about holding an arsenal that could be used for MAD if apple decide to go to war.
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:05
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All I want to know is,
Can I buy an new Moto later this year in the same price bracket as the MOTO G

I want good specs for cheap money
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:10
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it's not about getting their money back.

it's about holding an arsenal that could be used for MAD if apple decide to go to war.
I'm fairly sure that even if you added up all the court costs and fines given out in every patent cases it would not show a $10B loss.

I'm sure Google know what they are doing, but on the surface it looks a little strange.
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:28
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Motorola were not making google any money. The only thing they have been useful for are the patents.
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:51
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All I want to know is,
Can I buy an new Moto later this year in the same price bracket as the MOTO G

I want good specs for cheap money
Looking at it now you could say that the price of the Moto G was a loss leader to make the company sales results look good for selling.
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:52
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Maybe that was always the plan.
http://bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-10...omination.html
So in sales Lenovo are already 1 in PCs. At world 4 in smartphones this brand gives them much wider access for their smartphone portfolio.

Consumer perception matters far more than quality. In the west is more likely to buy a Moto smartphone than a Lenovo one. That X and G have certainly raised the perception of Moto which maybe helped seal the deal.
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Old 30-01-2014, 11:10
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How on earth did they get to No.1 in the PC market? Everything I have bought off of them (for my employer) has been of poor quality and failure prone. This would certainly make me think twice about getting another 'Motorola' phone if they are running the show.

Bought a Moto G for the O/H and I have to say it's really good (for the price) even as an iPhone person myself, I found the G was very nice to use and a good size (shame about the crappy camera). It would be a shame to see that build quality and great pricing point disappear (assuming we will not see any more 'cheap' phones once Lenovo take control)
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Old 30-01-2014, 11:22
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Lenovo have some of the highest rated laptops.
The same applies to HP who also have had a few failures.
I know a few of the HP failures but not the Lenovo ones.

Wide innovation also means you have a few fails.
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Old 30-01-2014, 13:04
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Maybe I am being unfair on Lenovo, and this deal will allow them to make better phones as they will appeal to a wider user base/area.

My opinion on their PC stuff is based on having around 150 lenovo laptops/pc's compared with around 500 Dell laptops/pc's. I think we see a Lenovo engineer every few weeks. Dell, probably a few time a year. But phones are a different beast, so we shall see how this plays out.
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Old 30-10-2014, 13:01
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Took a while but it's all done now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29833131

Lenovo has completed its takeover of Google's Motorola Mobility division.

The acquisition gives the Chinese firm control of the unit's Moto and Droid-branded handsets as well as its 3,500 employees, 2,800 of whom are based in the US.

Lenovo said the deal made it the world's third bestselling smartphone-maker after Apple and Samsung.
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