no audio on HDMI from DVD to new TV

ihatemarmite · 01-02-2014, 10:53

Got my new Sony w905 46" TV yesterday and very nice it is.
However the TV was connected up to the DVD player using SCART. That works although won't play audio through the connected speakers. (The TV/Sky does play fine through the connected speakers).

I bought a new HDMI cable on amazon and changed the SCART to that instead. There is picture but no sound. Tried 2 different HDMI ports, same issue.

Is this something I can resolve in settings (how please?)
I watch a lot of DVDs and would like them run through HDMI and my sound system.
Apologies, I'm getting older and am technically clueless.

Richard46 · 01-02-2014, 14:20

I am sure you have but just in case have you checked the MUTE button and the volume control on the DVD. If it has them.

ihatemarmite · 01-02-2014, 16:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard46

I am sure you have but just in case have you checked the MUTE button and the volume control on the DVD. If it has them.

yes, I have. The speaker audio only plays through Sky. If I switch to Freeview or DVD there is no audio. However DVD player only has audio via the SCART so am keeping it connected via that.

Sky HD box has started going into standby while I'm watching something as well, so having a frustrating day.

gomezz · 01-02-2014, 18:24

These connected speakers: What exactly are they and how are they connected?

Nigel Goodwin · 01-02-2014, 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

These connected speakers: What exactly are they and how are they connected?

Sounds rather like they are just connected to the back of the Sky box? - which would explain his problems.

ihatemarmite · 01-02-2014, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Sounds rather like they are just connected to the back of the Sky box? - which would explain his problems.

Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART.
Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system.
New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help

Richard46 · 02-02-2014, 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite

Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART.
Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system.
New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help

Until someone; like Nigel; who really knows what they are talking about replies I will have a guess and at least bump your thread. As Nigel suspects at the moment it does not look like there is any audio link from the DVD to the separate sound system.

Simplest solution might be to just link the Sky box and the DVD to the TV by HDMI or Scart and output the audio from the TV to the 'speaker box'. I don't know how you would do that without knowing what this box is and what inputs it has. Might be helpful to post what it is.
You would also need to set the TV to 'sound system' or 'Audio System' probably something like Home-Settings-Audio-Sound System. That option will not work until you actually have a sound system connected to the TV. NB those white and red L/R connections might just be inputs if so they could not be used to output sound from the TV.

I could be wrong and there may be better ideas.

Nigel Goodwin · 02-02-2014, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite

Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART.
Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system.
New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help

Which is what I thought, you've got the speaker system connected only to the Sky box.

Does your TV have an earphone socket?, or an audio line output?, if so connect your speaker system to that.

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 09:55

Or a SCART socket which support audio out in which case a suitable adaptor plug or lead can be used to connect to the RCA inputs on the speakers.

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 09:59

thanks guys

Speaker system is this http://www.trustedreviews.com/Acoust...ipheral_review
On the back of the sub woofer box only red, yellow, white sockets. It's a black surround so it may be an earlier incarnation of the M range (?)

TV has a small green audio output socket. Currently don't have a cable to connect them (just have a double ended tri-colour cable). Which cable do I need if this would work? Thanks v much.

Nigel Goodwin · 02-02-2014, 10:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite

thanks guys

Speaker system is this http://www.trustedreviews.com/Acoust...ipheral_review
On the back of the sub woofer box only red, yellow, white sockets.

TV has a small green audio output socket. Currently don't have a cable to connect them (just have a double ended tri-colour cable). Which cable do I need if this would work? Thanks v much.

Presumably the small green socket is a 3.5mm stereo jack socket?, if you have a pair of headphones (MP3 etc.) see if that fits.

You then just need a 3.3mm jack to two phonos lead - which is a standard and common lead.

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite

Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system

It will not have worked the way you want it if you had it connected the same as the new TV.

Tried to have a look at the specs for your TV and it does appear to have analogue audio out which would be better than the headphone out option unless you want to use the TV remote to control the volume.

hardeep · 02-02-2014, 10:04

edit - somewhat useless

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard46

Until someone; like Nigel; who really knows what they are talking about replies I will have a guess and at least bump your thread. As Nigel suspects at the moment it does not look like there is any audio link from the DVD to the separate sound system.

Simplest solution might be to just link the Sky box and the DVD to the TV by HDMI or Scart and output the audio from the TV to the 'speaker box'..

Separate but related issue - I did try HDMI from the DVD player to the TV (disconnecting the AE speakers entirely) and there is no sound at all. I tried 2 of the spare HDMI sockets on TV. So connected via SCART instead which works.
Thought the HDMI cable automatically carries video and audio? I'd really like to get the speaker audio working for DVDs. Not really bothered about anything other than films.

thanks guys

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:11

That will be down to an option on the DVD player to send audio over HDMI.

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin

Presumably the small green socket is a 3.5mm stereo jack socket?, if you have a pair of headphones (MP3 etc.) see if that fits.

You then just need a 3.3mm jack to two phonos lead - which is a standard and common lead.

Yes, it's 3.5mm standard jack, thanks. Still only playing audio on whatever channel Sky is tuned to. No sound on freeview or DVD
Is there a name for the cable I need as will get one online today? thank you

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:13

Make and model of DVD player?

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihatemarmite

Is there a name for the cable I need as will get one online today? thank you

https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=...27.grxxYwGNhe4

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

That will be down to an option on the DVD player to send audio over HDMI.

can't access menu options on the Toshiba DVD via the remote. I've tried and it won't move to the selected option. Not sure of the model of DVD player but is basic 'upscaling' cheapo from 3 years ago on amazon

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezz

https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=...27.grxxYwGNhe4

thanks very much

Trawled old amazon orders. DVD is this Toshiba SD5010 Upscaling DVD Player with USB
http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinue...ayer-with-usb/

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:32

From the manual you need to use the EAM button on the DVD remote

Quote:

E.A.M button (Enhanced Audio Mode)
Use to select the sound enhancement on or off.
3D*:
To obtain expansive virtual surround sound effects from
two speakers. To use this enhancement on sounds output
from the ANALOG AUDIO OUT jacks, be sure to set
“Digital out” to “PCM”.

And further on it tells you to set Digital out to PCM when connecting to the TV using HDMI.

gomezz · 02-02-2014, 10:50

BTW I was originally puzzled by the third "Centre Speaker" input on the back of the speaker system. But it is actually designed as a computer desktop system and it seems there are computer sound-cards which decode to 3.1 for output to an external system.

ihatemarmite · 02-02-2014, 13:28

thank you Gomezz, I'll have a go with the DVD remote.

ihatemarmite · 07-02-2014, 10:12

Update: the lead works fine with the sound system from TV (Sky and Freeview) and from the DVD player, but the DVD remote is jammed and won't access settings so am still having to use SCART to connect the DVD player to the TV.
The picture seems good - watched 3 episodes of Deadwood last night - but would it be appreciably better run through HDMI? Some people online say little difference?

Thanks guys for your help. I now have proper sound. The native sound from the Sony isn't that bad for a thin TV. Better than expected. Fine for news etc. But great to avoid paying extra for a soundbar for films, music etc.

01-02-2014, 10:53	#1
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	no audio on HDMI from DVD to new TV Got my new Sony w905 46" TV yesterday and very nice it is. However the TV was connected up to the DVD player using SCART. That works although won't play audio through the connected speakers. (The TV/Sky does play fine through the connected speakers). I bought a new HDMI cable on amazon and changed the SCART to that instead. There is picture but no sound. Tried 2 different HDMI ports, same issue. Is this something I can resolve in settings (how please?) I watch a lot of DVDs and would like them run through HDMI and my sound system. Apologies, I'm getting older and am technically clueless.

01-02-2014, 14:20	#2
Richard46 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London Posts: 41,718	I am sure you have but just in case have you checked the MUTE button and the volume control on the DVD. If it has them.

01-02-2014, 16:15	#3
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard46 I am sure you have but just in case have you checked the MUTE button and the volume control on the DVD. If it has them. yes, I have. The speaker audio only plays through Sky. If I switch to Freeview or DVD there is no audio. However DVD player only has audio via the SCART so am keeping it connected via that. Sky HD box has started going into standby while I'm watching something as well, so having a frustrating day.

01-02-2014, 18:24	#4
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	These connected speakers: What exactly are they and how are they connected?

01-02-2014, 19:06	#5
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz These connected speakers: What exactly are they and how are they connected? Sounds rather like they are just connected to the back of the Sky box? - which would explain his problems.

01-02-2014, 23:33	#6
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Sounds rather like they are just connected to the back of the Sky box? - which would explain his problems. Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART. Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system. New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help

02-02-2014, 09:31	#7
Richard46 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London Posts: 41,718	Quote: Originally Posted by ihatemarmite Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART. Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system. New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help Until someone; like Nigel; who really knows what they are talking about replies I will have a guess and at least bump your thread. As Nigel suspects at the moment it does not look like there is any audio link from the DVD to the separate sound system. Simplest solution might be to just link the Sky box and the DVD to the TV by HDMI or Scart and output the audio from the TV to the 'speaker box'. I don't know how you would do that without knowing what this box is and what inputs it has. Might be helpful to post what it is. You would also need to set the TV to 'sound system' or 'Audio System' probably something like Home-Settings-Audio-Sound System. That option will not work until you actually have a sound system connected to the TV. NB those white and red L/R connections might just be inputs if so they could not be used to output sound from the TV. I could be wrong and there may be better ideas.

02-02-2014, 09:52	#8
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by ihatemarmite Cabling: yellow, white and red RCA/composite cable in the speaker box and Sky HD box. That works with audio on Sky. If I switch to freeview, it continues playing audio from the previous Sky channel that it was tuned to. No audio on DVD player other than via SCART. Where should I put them or do I need new cables (and if so, what?) Sorry to be thick. Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system. New TV has 5 sockets (no yellow) - top to bottom it's green (AV2), blue (PB), red (PR), white (mono L) and red (R). thanks for any help Which is what I thought, you've got the speaker system connected only to the Sky box. Does your TV have an earphone socket?, or an audio line output?, if so connect your speaker system to that.

02-02-2014, 09:55	#9
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Or a SCART socket which support audio out in which case a suitable adaptor plug or lead can be used to connect to the RCA inputs on the speakers.

02-02-2014, 09:59	#10
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	thanks guys Speaker system is this http://www.trustedreviews.com/Acoust...ipheral_review On the back of the sub woofer box only red, yellow, white sockets. It's a black surround so it may be an earlier incarnation of the M range (?) TV has a small green audio output socket. Currently don't have a cable to connect them (just have a double ended tri-colour cable). Which cable do I need if this would work? Thanks v much.

02-02-2014, 10:01	#11
Nigel Goodwin Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North Derbyshire Posts: 41,789	Quote: Originally Posted by ihatemarmite thanks guys Speaker system is this http://www.trustedreviews.com/Acoust...ipheral_review On the back of the sub woofer box only red, yellow, white sockets. TV has a small green audio output socket. Currently don't have a cable to connect them (just have a double ended tri-colour cable). Which cable do I need if this would work? Thanks v much. Presumably the small green socket is a 3.5mm stereo jack socket?, if you have a pair of headphones (MP3 etc.) see if that fits. You then just need a 3.3mm jack to two phonos lead - which is a standard and common lead.

02-02-2014, 10:02	#12
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Quote: Originally Posted by ihatemarmite Last TV is from 2005 and worked with these cables / speaker system It will not have worked the way you want it if you had it connected the same as the new TV. Tried to have a look at the specs for your TV and it does appear to have analogue audio out which would be better than the headphone out option unless you want to use the TV remote to control the volume.

02-02-2014, 10:04	#13
hardeep Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 2,163	edit - somewhat useless

02-02-2014, 10:07	#14
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by Richard46 Until someone; like Nigel; who really knows what they are talking about replies I will have a guess and at least bump your thread. As Nigel suspects at the moment it does not look like there is any audio link from the DVD to the separate sound system. Simplest solution might be to just link the Sky box and the DVD to the TV by HDMI or Scart and output the audio from the TV to the 'speaker box'.. Separate but related issue - I did try HDMI from the DVD player to the TV (disconnecting the AE speakers entirely) and there is no sound at all. I tried 2 of the spare HDMI sockets on TV. So connected via SCART instead which works. Thought the HDMI cable automatically carries video and audio? I'd really like to get the speaker audio working for DVDs. Not really bothered about anything other than films. thanks guys

02-02-2014, 10:11	#15
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	That will be down to an option on the DVD player to send audio over HDMI.

02-02-2014, 10:12	#16
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin Presumably the small green socket is a 3.5mm stereo jack socket?, if you have a pair of headphones (MP3 etc.) see if that fits. You then just need a 3.3mm jack to two phonos lead - which is a standard and common lead. Yes, it's 3.5mm standard jack, thanks. Still only playing audio on whatever channel Sky is tuned to. No sound on freeview or DVD Is there a name for the cable I need as will get one online today? thank you

02-02-2014, 10:13	#17
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Make and model of DVD player?

02-02-2014, 10:14	#19
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz That will be down to an option on the DVD player to send audio over HDMI. can't access menu options on the Toshiba DVD via the remote. I've tried and it won't move to the selected option. Not sure of the model of DVD player but is basic 'upscaling' cheapo from 3 years ago on amazon

02-02-2014, 10:15	#20
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Quote: Originally Posted by gomezz https://www.google.co.uk/search?num=...27.grxxYwGNhe4 thanks very much Trawled old amazon orders. DVD is this Toshiba SD5010 Upscaling DVD Player with USB http://www.toshiba.co.uk/discontinue...ayer-with-usb/

02-02-2014, 10:32	#21
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	From the manual you need to use the EAM button on the DVD remote Quote: E.A.M button (Enhanced Audio Mode) Use to select the sound enhancement on or off. 3D*: To obtain expansive virtual surround sound effects from two speakers. To use this enhancement on sounds output from the ANALOG AUDIO OUT jacks, be sure to set “Digital out” to “PCM”. And further on it tells you to set Digital out to PCM when connecting to the TV using HDMI.

02-02-2014, 10:50	#22
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	BTW I was originally puzzled by the third "Centre Speaker" input on the back of the speaker system. But it is actually designed as a computer desktop system and it seems there are computer sound-cards which decode to 3.1 for output to an external system.

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02-02-2014, 13:28	#23
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	thank you Gomezz, I'll have a go with the DVD remote.

07-02-2014, 10:12	#24
ihatemarmite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 4,060	Update: the lead works fine with the sound system from TV (Sky and Freeview) and from the DVD player, but the DVD remote is jammed and won't access settings so am still having to use SCART to connect the DVD player to the TV. The picture seems good - watched 3 episodes of Deadwood last night - but would it be appreciably better run through HDMI? Some people online say little difference? Thanks guys for your help. I now have proper sound. The native sound from the Sony isn't that bad for a thin TV. Better than expected. Fine for news etc. But great to avoid paying extra for a soundbar for films, music etc.