Maybe if they used one of the "Other" Torchwood buildings, perhaps. Would allow for new characters and stories.
Also would be interesting to see how Capt Jack ended up as The Face of Boe. (If indeed that was actually him)

Gwen never had a training as an agent, though. She's just a local policewoman who happened to stumble onto them and turned out to be persistent enough, smart enough and empathetic enough to fill a need that was missing. Gwen was never the problem with Torchwood, IMO.

I liked series 1 and 2 but I wasn't overly keen on the other two. I didn't like the idea of series-long stories and I particularly didn't like how Torchwood ended up being dismantled and on the run. I enjoyed them being in control, possessed of superior knowledge and technology, and working from a position of strength and competence.

In Miracle Day, not only was the premise of the threat a bit crazy, but everyone was incredibly stupid and incompetent for most of the series

If they did bring it back it would need to be closer to the first two series, for me.

Whilst I did enjoy Torchwood, I have to admit that the majority of its output was pretty awful. If there were no Doctor Who connection I would not have made it through series 1. They improved somewhat in series 2, with the characters more likable and some interesting stories, plus they made it feel less like a 13-year-olds idea of an adult show. But it was really only CoE that was outstanding and showed what the show could do.

I think Torchwood is dead in the UK, though. When it was first commissioned it came off the back of the massive hype of the resurrected (and unexpectedly successful) Doctor Who. During those "honeymoon years," I think the BBC were going to greenlight anything Who-related. But with BBC budget cuts and the general quality of Torchwood, I think it eventually soured the beeb towards Who spinoffs and they decided to just keep the money in the main shoe.

BIB: Agreed. Series 1 was pretty juvenile and improved in Series 2. It seemed like RTD's idea of an "adult" show was to throw in a bit of sex and gore and call it "job done".

CoE was terrific; dramatic and perfectly paced.

I'm not sure about your Doctor Who "honeymoon" thesis though. SJA was very good in its own right and was a great success. RTD has since done Wizards and Aliens which I think was well received (though I've not seen it myself).

SJA was probably a lot cheaper to make than Who or Torchwood. I think the BBC put a lot of resources into Doctor Who spinoffs (and considered commissioning others - Rose Tyler: Earth Defence, anyone?) and either realised it wasn't a guaranteed success or were told that they needed to spread their investment among more shows and not tie it all up in one property.

No she didn't, so why exactly was she brought in as an agent? The fact they 'quite like her' doesn't really wash does it? She regularly makes huge mistakes, whinges about her boyfriend constantly and overall adds nothing to Torchwood apart from owen and Jack fancy her. Her being empathetic doesn't really help the team when she makes so many glaring mistakes. Although to be fair EVERYONE in the Torchwood team regularly makes major terrible mistakes and never get punished for it.

If Torchwood hadn't been connected to Doctor Who it would never have been given a second series, the first was so spectacularly awful (with the worst episode of anything DW related being done, Cyberwoman, and I've seen Timelash) it deserved cancellation. When I saw it was going to be more 'adult' and 'edgy' I didn't think it would involve a bit of swearing, the team acting like randy teenagers wrote a bad carry on script and gave it to the BBC, characters either paper thin or boring and plots that bored me to tears.

That sums it up best, out of four series Torchwood has only really had one good run. The rest is either mediocre or really bad (ALL of series one). The BBC have become a bit sick of giving the show time and money, while getting back erratic results.

That could be done. I'm sure the London one would have been rebuilt eventually.

We assume Capt. Jack is the Face of Boe but it was never confirmed. Maybe they should just go ahead and confirm it.

If they wanted to create some continuity but at the same time start afresh per se they could always bring back Esther full-time to take over from Gwen (who I think has run out of steam as a character). Her death in MD could easily be written off as a hoax, perhaps after The Miracle she decided to start a new life in Wales and the only way she could realistically do so was by taking the opportunity to fake her death. It would explain why nobody seemed particularly upset at her funeral.

I wouldn't mind Esther returning as I actually liked her character. I still think they should rebuild the Hub and bring in new characters to take on the roles of Owen and Ianto. Esther sort of replaced Tosh as the computer expert.

No.Emphatcallyno. RIP Torchwood. We hardly knew ya and maybe it's better that way.

Opinions on the first series seem very low, but I think there were a lot of decent episodes in there. The pilot was decent enough if unspectacular, and I try to forget the sex-alien. But there were several episodes I thought were absolutely brilliant;

Small Worlds, the one with the fairies and the girl they take as their own. I remember feeling sorry for that poor woman who lost her husband and her daughter on her Anniversary. The episode also certified a female love interest for Jack from many years ago - it was very sad to see her die as well, but the story as a whole was great and it was nice to see a more compassionate side to Jack's love life (as well as a bisexual TV character).

I watched Countrycide at an ungodly hour in the morning in the dark and found it absolutely terrifying. Of course I was about 14 or 15 at the time, and admittedly a bit of a scaredy but it was a dark, menacing, humans-are-the-baddies story.

Out of Time with the Fifties people coming through the Rift was a personal highlight of the series. If you can ignore Owen's whole lust for Diane plotline that went way too deep it was a very decent, heartfelt story.

And I very much enjoyed the finale as well... both parts. They had their problems as well, but it was nice to travel back to the war in the first part and I think the scenes with Abaddon were actually quite impressive. The sound of the TARDIS at the end was an extra special treat.

In fact aside from the fantastic Captain John, and the final few episodes there's little about the second series that I think is any better than the first. Martha's appearance felt rather forced to me, and Owen's death story took over the second half of the series and wouldn't let go - I hated it.

I agree about series 1. I recently rewatched it after watching it many years ago and being thoroughly disappointed in it, and I found it was much better than I remembered. Whilst there were some rubbish episodes, there were some gems in there with Countrycide, Out of Time and Ghost Machine being favourites of mine.

Series 2 I enjoyed a lot more at the time and is still good on rewatch. It's just a real shame that RTD killed off most of the main cast in Series 2 and 3 which has kind of written the show into a corner.

I think if it was brought back, an episode of Doctor Who focusing on a resurrected Torchwood might work to reestablish a Series. In my opinion, I think it'd work better with the format of Series 1 and 2 rather than 3 and 4.

With some intelligent writing I don't see any reason why the show couldn't come back, and better than before.

I still think they could set it in the earlier days of Torchwood, perhaps in Scotland too... there's a lot of folklore they could use and a hub in Edinburgh would be fascinating (what with the city's mysterious streets that are all hidden underground now), plus would suit the Beeb who are clambering for more Scottish productions. Perhaps when Moffat is done with Doctor Who he could develop a script or two...or perhaps a fleeting cameo from The Paternoster Gang or Captain Jack, though I'd be fine without such a cameo.

Summed up in a phrase... Victorian Alien Hunters. It could be a bit more brutal, and could tackle drama from a non-contemporary perspective to give it that extra spark. Period-drama meets adult sci-fi, and it wouldn't even need to contradict the canon of Torchwood in the present day.

I do not think there will ever be a time to bring Torchwood back. The bulk of the episodes were pretty poor, and I do not see any appetite for its return.

I found it quite entertaining. It was basically just like Hollyoaks Later- a bit of trash, putting in some raunchier stuff that they couldn't have gotten away with in the normal show. But I think the main show might be moving towards something more adult anyway.

Yes! I am literally dying for a return of Torchwood. As others have stated; if it was to be brought back it does need to find itself again. Needs to be like S1 and S2. They also need to bring back Russell T Davies as Executive Producer, his passion for this show is evident in CoE. Also bring in Chris Chibnall as Head Writer as his contribution was amazing and his work since; i.e. Broadchurch has shown just how much of a fantastic writer he is

The stand alone stories from S1 and S2 were fantastic! I personally really enjoyed;

• Ghost Machine
• Small Worlds
• Countrycide (could’ve been it’s own mini-series!)
• Greek baring gifts
• They keep killing Suzie (not really a stand alone, more a revisit to first episode with Suzie)
• Random shoes
• Captain Jack Harkness (was a brilliant ep, I’ve personally re-watched this many times, could’ve been it’s own mini series! Toshiko really shined in this one)
• Adam
• Adrift

I would like to see the series return to Cardiff in the Hub and bring in a new team. Captain Jack will be back at the helm having re-built the Hub and regained control of the rift. All alien artefacts are returned to Torchwood and the Government has been warned by The Crown to let Torchwood do it’s job and defend what is left of the Empire. I’d also like to see the return of Gwen and maybe have Rhys as a full time member of Torchwood now as well, front of House, making the coffee (i.e. Ianto in S1) Then I’d like them to introduce a young ex-soldier, who is all about the action, he should be tough and a real ladies man (kind of like Owen) bit unhinged and ready for danger. Not scared. Then a lady Doctor, someone who may have been kidnapped previously by Aliens, she is Human, but was raised in an Alien World. Then a geeky scientist, who is a computer wizard and was recruited to Torchwood after hacking into their system after reading conspiracy theories on a forum. He is un-confident but charming. Shy, like Ianto, but someone the viewer can really care about. Then last of all, a good looking girly, girl, who looks like a secretary, she is beauty and not much brains, however he common sense is top notch and she has a lot of banter with the team. Her role in Torchwood is that she is manipulative and able to get the general public on her side.

I’d the team to encounter lots of Alien threats, lots of time travel with the rift and have hardly any cross over with Doctor Who. It’s time this show stood on it’s own two feet. It should have no references to Miracle Day and distance itself from the Americanisms. Take this show back to it’s roots. It should also just stick to 1 story arc per episode and avoid big series finales like Doctor Who. Executive Producers should also not make it too easy to keep killing characters off, just when you get to care about them!

Another idea I have is to maybe go back in time, pre- S1. This would mean the series would not include Gwen. But could re-introduce Ianto, Owen, Toshiko and Suzie. Or we could go back even further; in an episode where we looked at how each character was recruited into Torchwood, we saw a whole other team that Captain Jack was involved with; where the Torchwood Leader killed them all on what seemed like that Millennium New Years Eve. We could have a series, in the Hub in Cardiff, pre S1, pre Gwen, Owen, Toshiko, Ianto and even Suzie. A whole new Torchwood team, where Captain Jack is not the boss. We could also see the might of the Torchwood Empire, by including the Canary Wharf base, as this would be pre- Doomsday and the Battle at Canary Wharf and the end of Torchwood 1.

Either way, BBC need to revive this series, it has so much potential as a show in it’s own right, but it must be done properly. If anyone from the BBC is watching; feel free to use my ideas! Haha.

And breathe...

As someone once said, "my a**e has potential,...." With over 30 hrs in the can already, Torchwood has had time to deliver on that potential - and frankly hasn't. It has blown hot and cold, it's cast and production team are off doing other things, and to the wider audience it has already been forgotten about. Even BARROWMAN seems to have stopped his one man campaign.

I think that sums it up, Torchwood has always said to have had 'potential', but you can't keep saying that. After four series of Torchwood its only produced a single series of strong episodes, with such a low hit rate the BBC can't be blamed for pulling the plug. They can't keep commissioning a series knowing the chances are what they'll get back will (most likely) be poor.

I agree with what you are both saying that this show should have realised it’s potential by now; I do genuinely agree with you both, however, I think that if after CoE; the BBC followed this up with a S4 that incorporated the best bits of CoE and S1 and S2 then this would’ve realised it’s potential by now, having MD and the Americanisms of that series damaged the show, with even some of the most loyal fans being disillusioned with what the show was all about.

I feel that the show does have legs for a S5, if it was to incorporate the best bits of CoE and the 2 series. Also I feel that if they didn’t have killed off Owen and Toshiko and then Ianto in CoE, people would’ve had continuality throughout the series, with characters they were familiar with, instead of it feeling like a new show in each series. Just my opinion, but I would love to see a series 5, potential aside, I still feel like this show is a great idea.

I actually don't think it was the plots in series 1 that made it bad, it was the characters. Gwen and Owen in particular just weren't nice characters. Gwen admitting her infidelity to Rhys and then retconning him is a case in point. Owen in just about everything he did was unpleasant. Ianto and Tosh might as well have been paintings on the walls of the hub they were so bland.

That's why I think series 2 was an improvement. They made the characters more likable and more relatable. It doesn't help your audience invest in a show when the cast are all unlikable! Oh no, the big alien snotmonster is about to kill Gwen! Not a good sign when the audience starts rooting for the snotmonster!

Except... that doesn't sound like Torchwood at all. Why not just come up with a new original show?

It would be a massive shame if we never saw Jack or Gwen again. Torchwood has so much potential! Even a one off special would be awesome!

That's why I think Torchwood should get it's own spin-off, to drive home the fact it would be different. As I mentioned in another post they could bring back Esther to create a bridge between the original Torchwood and the new series, if they wanted to. Alternatively they could use Gwen's old colleague Andy Davidson as he has shown he could quite easily be a part of Torchwood, or even bring in both characters full-time.

I don't think having Gwen and Jack back permanently would work. We saw the strain Gwen's life with Torchwood had on her relationship with Rhys and on several occasions it had some serious repercussions on their personal lives. Would Gwen really risk all that now she is a mother? As for Jack I don't think it would feel right for him to go back to the way he was prior to COE after the events that ensued, which is another thing that was wrong with MD, they never really picked up on that. They could bring them back as recurring characters but having them there full-time is a bit of a no-no for me.

The parallel world setting I suggested I could take or leave but there would need to be a fresh start. Failing the above, I could settle for a new, original series altogether.