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Or inconsistent.
My EE 4G phone just spent most of the day on EDGE at home today. I know which I'd rather have. Cheaper too. |
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Or inconsistent.
My EE 4G phone just spent most of the day on EDGE at home today. This is one reason I'm against longer that 12 months contracts :-/ |
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http://i.imgur.com/EkjXgiz.png
This has been showing for months at a location for me. Difficult to get a signal indoors. |
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Everyone's experience will be different, but mine (living and travelling across the south) is that O2 or Vodafone would leave me on GPRS (maybe but not always EDGE) with pockets of 3G when going into urban areas, whereas EE or 3 would give me nearly continuous 3G coverage (with pockets of LTE on EE)
I know which I'd rather have. Cheaper too. |
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My experience exactly! I have just ditched Vodafone for precisely the reasons you outline (Edge if I was lucky many places, pockets of 3G) and moved to EE at vastly better 3G coverage!
The area I live (and I'm talking about a 10 mile area here does have very good Vodafone 3G coverage. I've been surprised (I use it for my work phone). It's not quite as good as Three's in the same area though. There's only 1 place I know of here where I don't get any kind if signal with Three. But with Vodafone there's a few places here where it drops down to GPRS. The problems with Voda for me is that the data is really slow compared to Three. It's also very common for me not to be able to place calls when I have a great signal, it just says call failed. This never happens on Three. As for O2, when I was with them it was very common for me to just have 2G. Rubbish. |
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It seems if I lived in your city, I'd have ditched my EE contract. I guess if you lived here in Hampshire, you'd need to try all 4 networks again.
This is one reason I'm against longer that 12 months contracts :-/ O2 just don't have as many holes in this city, either that or I've been lucky enough to avoid them for the last ten years. Admittedly, O2 improved a huge amount since 2010 with around 40% more 3G sites being built as a result of the Vodafone share and many more planned, and many of the EE weak/blackspots used to have good coverage on Orange masts which have either not been upgraded or have been decomissioned. I don't mind the EE contract too much though I still get the benefits of access to 4G in more places across the country (even if I've never actually made use of it) and free international roaming in 50 countries - which has saved me several hundred pounds every time I've been abroad. |
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http://i.imgur.com/EkjXgiz.png
This has been showing for months at a location for me. Difficult to get a signal indoors. What's worse is it's been saying this on the only 4G mast in the city centre for a week now: http://qasdfdsaq.com/images/misc/oh-poo.png It's barely noticeable on 3G as they have 9 other masts providing overlapping coverage, but since there's been delays upgrading every other site in the city centre, that's the only one active for 4G... |
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Try coming up to Scotland, you'll be lucky to even get edge in most places with o2
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From my experience visiting Scotland there is no O2 3G north of Inverness and nothing much south of it for a long way. EE seem to do a good job of covering a lot of areas up there with 3G
http://i.imgur.com/D4leBPL.png Bottom of the image is Inverness, top is somewhere irrelevant. #O23GHunt |
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From my experience visiting Scotland there is no O2 3G north of Inverness and nothing much south of it for a long way. EE seem to do a good job of covering a lot of areas up there with 3G
I wouldn't be surprised if EE/Three now have good 3G coverage in the towns, and Voda hasn't moved. No idea on O2. |
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O2 just don't have as many holes in this city, either that or I've been lucky enough to avoid them for the last ten years.
I reckon its as simple as MBNL rolled out mast bandwidth upgrades in 2008 to 2010 when people were using much slower handsets; and O2 and VF are doing it now, but people have faster handsets that can show the difference. |
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I worked in Forres and Elgin area for a while between 2009 and 2011 on random trips. All the locals had Vodafone, all the other networks were 2G only and worked only if you were close to the A96. My last trip in early 2012, I saw quite a bit of 3G on T-mobile on the main road, but poor signal in my hotel. Vodafone was 2G only but good signal everywhere.
I wouldn't be surprised if EE/Three now have good 3G coverage in the towns, and Voda hasn't moved. No idea on O2. A lot of the masts in the North of Scotland seem to be 3G now. |
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That's a good way of looking at it, yeah. At the moment O2 and VF are investing massively in upgrades, having skimped on it before 2010 while T-Mobile/3 were doing a big rollout.
One thought I had was perhaps O2 and VF held back on wasting money on rolling out 3G in the late 2000's expecting to do have to re-do everything a year or two later anyway in order to deploy 4G, and got hit hard by the massively delayed spectrum auction that held back the 4G rollout too. In any case Vodafone is currently undertaking what they call the "biggest investment [in upgrading the network] in the network's history" and O2 are throwing nearly the same amount into 3G/4G upgrade work. We shall see how things pan out in a year or two, maybe the frugality earlier on pays off now in having more money to chuck into 4G. After all both networks are putting over double as much into 4G as 3 are. They're certainly not holding back on 4G, O2 launched with just as many 4G sites in Edinburgh than EE did (over 70) and there's dozens more in the process of being upgraded. We were lucky here to have 3G900 pretty much as soon as it was announced on O2, Vodafone however had some in Glasgow but none at all here until the joint 4G upgrades started making every site 3G900+DC-HSDPA 2100 |
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That's a good way of looking at it, yeah. At the moment O2 and VF are investing massively in upgrades, having skimped on it before 2010 while T-Mobile/3 were doing a big rollout.
One thought I had was perhaps O2 and VF held back on wasting money on rolling out 3G in the late 2000's expecting to do have to re-do everything a year or two later anyway in order to deploy 4G, and got hit hard by the massively delayed spectrum auction that held back the 4G rollout too. I know they were only responsible for 1/2 the data usage of Three users, despite being more than twice the size - what a gap! |
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Vodafone are really poor in my area. Me and my teacher ran a speedtest on Thursday, his iPhone 4s. next to my iPhone 5s. He got 1.7Mbps down on Vodafone and I got 13Mbps on Three 4G. He was amazed at how fast 4G was. He was in total disbelief when I told him I can pick up speeds of up to 20Mbps on Three 3G and up to 60-70Mbps on Three 4G. I showed him my 67Mbps 4G result and it 3 attempts of explaining before he finally realised it wasn't fibre broadband.
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From my experience visiting Scotland there is no O2 3G north of Inverness and nothing much south of it for a long way. EE seem to do a good job of covering a lot of areas up there with 3G
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Found some!
http://i.imgur.com/D4leBPL.png Bottom of the image is Inverness, top is somewhere irrelevant. #O23GHunt http://qasdfdsaq.com/images/misc/o2-wick.png |
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Looks like you missed Wick, the second northernmost town on the UK mainland.
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This is O2's 3G coverage Vs EE's 3G coverage
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps39482cef.jpg Want to see something even more shocking. This was O2's 3G 2100 coverage at the end of 2012. http://i.imgur.com/ppurl.png It took them 7 and a half years to get to that^ |
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I think we should setup a hotline for people to call in upon discovery of an O2 3G signal!
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Must say, the speed test I ran today really puts O2's 3G network to shame:
http://imgur.com/REfC9Rk This was in the middle of a field in Hampshire on EE's 3G network. |
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Must say, the speed test I ran today really puts O2's 3G network to shame:
http://imgur.com/REfC9Rk This was in the middle of a field in Hampshire on EE's 3G network. |
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Wrong link?
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What do you mean?
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Must say, the speed test I ran today really puts O2's 3G network to shame:
http://imgur.com/REfC9Rk This was in the middle of a field in Hampshire on EE's 3G network. http://qasdfdsaq.com/images/speedtes...0-23-54-41.png Middle of a field in Scotland on O2's 3G network. |
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