Apple complains of 'patent trolls'

swordman · 11-02-2014, 17:36

I'm not sure if Apple have bought the chicago tribune at some point but it mysteriously refers to them as innovative

Anyway it seems that Apple are complaining about being picked on in court over patents.

Reap what you sow ... kettle pot etc

http://my.chicagotribune.com/#sectio.../p2p-79215966/

IvanIV · 11-02-2014, 17:40

They mean somebody else is trolling, too?

enapace · 11-02-2014, 17:49

I was glad to hear the HTC/Nokia Patent trouble has been resolved.

TheTruth1983 · 11-02-2014, 17:50

Ain't that ironic.

Stiggles · 11-02-2014, 17:54

Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Sorry about that!!..... *sniggers*

flagpole · 11-02-2014, 18:04

It's is possible that apple think they have some kind of IP protection over the concept of patent trolling.

enapace · 11-02-2014, 18:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by flagpole

It's is possible that apple think they have some kind of IP protection over the concept of patent trolling.

Very likely there CEO thinks an entire continent is useless so that would be a minor thing.

kidspud · 11-02-2014, 18:29

Can someone give me the definition of a patent troll, as I'm confused as to why anyone would think apple was one.

Anika Hanson · 11-02-2014, 18:31

Look only Apple can use patents. If anyone tries to enforce patents against Apple, well they are just mean spirited.

But the world is not a fair place. If there was any justice in the world Apple would have a monopoly on tablets and smartphones for the next 20 years.

Three · 11-02-2014, 18:31

I like Apple, but they give as good as they get.

Mystic Eddy · 11-02-2014, 19:24

If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice.

Anika Hanson · 11-02-2014, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Eddy

If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice.

Stuff that Apple invented

kidspud · 11-02-2014, 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Eddy

If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice.

Unfortunately, you've now ruined the "patent troll" story from the "forum troll" OP.

slattery69 · 11-02-2014, 19:31

Its a bit pot and kettle. Apple (along with others) bought the Nortel patents and use a company I think called rock star to go out and sue people for infringement . Which is the very definition of a patent troll.

alan1302 · 11-02-2014, 19:32

You can tell reading the post on here who has read the article and understood it fully and who hasn't! LOL

swordman · 11-02-2014, 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anika Hanson

Stuff that Apple invented

yes the phone, the computer, rounded corners

wavejockglw · 11-02-2014, 19:42

Who cares about Apple?

They were a fabulous company with some great ideas and boy did they milk them!

Everything has it's time and space and Apple has had it's glory days.

All they seem likely to do now is bitch about others and use litigation to prevent innovation and consumers getting value for money.

Lets not be too harsh though as Samsung look set to trump Apple in terms of handset cost with the new Galaxy 5 but that is their premium product and they offer plenty of alternatives at more affordable cost that make Apple devices look ridiculously expensive.

The courts look like the best place for the retreating Apple boys to hope for in light of the shrinking market for their overpriced devices and their lack of innovation to counter the competitive onslaught.

kidspud · 11-02-2014, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by wavejockglw

Who cares about Apple?

They were a fabulous company with some great ideas and boy did they milk them!

Everything has it's time and space and Apple has had it's glory days.

All they seem likely to do now is bitch about others and use litigation to prevent innovation and consumers getting value for money.

Lets not be too harsh though as Samsung look set to trump Apple in terms of handset cost with the new Galaxy 5 but that is their premium product and they offer plenty of alternatives at more affordable cost that make Apple devices look ridiculously expensive.

The courts look like the best place for the retreating Apple boys to hope for in light of the shrinking market for their overpriced devices and their lack of innovation to counter the competitive onslaught.

Good story. Have you ever thought of being an author of fiction

Anika Hanson · 11-02-2014, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordman

yes the phone, the computer, rounded corners

The wheel

Everything Goes · 11-02-2014, 23:41

Right lets look at Apple's class trolling when it went after a cafe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...over-logo.html

Awaits Calico Pie and his mate Kidspud to defend them

kidspud · 12-02-2014, 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Right lets look at Apple's class trolling when it went after a cafe

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...over-logo.html

Awaits Calico Pie and his mate Kidspud to defend them

Why would I defend that

if you look back in this forum for when it was discussed at the time, I wouldn't defend it then.

However, what that link has to do with accusing apple of being a patent troll (and google, Facebook, etc) either shows a complete misunderstanding or is just trolling by those who seem to be completely obsessed by apple.

Nice to see you've joined their gang (see, we can all make childish comments, it's easy

)

Everything Goes · 12-02-2014, 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Why would I defend that

if you look back in this forum for when it was discussed at the time, I wouldn't defend it then.

However, what that link has to do with accusing apple of being a patent troll (and google, Facebook, etc) either shows a complete misunderstanding or is just trolling by those who seem to be completely obsessed by apple.

Nice to see you've joined their gang (see, we can all make childish comments, it's easy

)

So you disapprove of Apple going after a cafe for infringing their trademark. Yet you don't seem to think Apple are a Troll

kidspud · 12-02-2014, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

So you disapprove of Apple going after a cafe for infringing their trademark. Yet you don't seem to think Apple are a Troll

If you are talking about a patent troll, you are correct, I don't think they are one.

As google and Facebook were also part of the group, do you consider them trolls?

Everything Goes · 12-02-2014, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

If you are talking about a patent troll, you are correct, I don't think they are one.

As google and Facebook were also part of the group, do you consider them trolls?

Yet clearly going after a cafe is Trolling!

kidspud · 12-02-2014, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

Yet clearly going after a cafe is Trolling!

I'll ask again, what do you think a patent troll is?

As for the cafe story, I think you may have fallen for the headline.

11-02-2014, 17:36	#1
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Apple complains of 'patent trolls' I'm not sure if Apple have bought the chicago tribune at some point but it mysteriously refers to them as innovative Anyway it seems that Apple are complaining about being picked on in court over patents. Reap what you sow ... kettle pot etc http://my.chicagotribune.com/#sectio.../p2p-79215966/

12-02-2014, 07:32	#21
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Right lets look at Apple's class trolling when it went after a cafe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...over-logo.html Awaits Calico Pie and his mate Kidspud to defend them Why would I defend that if you look back in this forum for when it was discussed at the time, I wouldn't defend it then. However, what that link has to do with accusing apple of being a patent troll (and google, Facebook, etc) either shows a complete misunderstanding or is just trolling by those who seem to be completely obsessed by apple. Nice to see you've joined their gang (see, we can all make childish comments, it's easy)

12-02-2014, 13:19	#22
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Why would I defend that if you look back in this forum for when it was discussed at the time, I wouldn't defend it then. However, what that link has to do with accusing apple of being a patent troll (and google, Facebook, etc) either shows a complete misunderstanding or is just trolling by those who seem to be completely obsessed by apple. Nice to see you've joined their gang (see, we can all make childish comments, it's easy) So you disapprove of Apple going after a cafe for infringing their trademark. Yet you don't seem to think Apple are a Troll

11-02-2014, 17:40	#2
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 25,199	They mean somebody else is trolling, too?

11-02-2014, 17:49	#3
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	I was glad to hear the HTC/Nokia Patent trouble has been resolved.

11-02-2014, 17:50	#4
TheTruth1983 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Crapville Posts: 13,162	Ain't that ironic.

11-02-2014, 17:54	#5
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Bwaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Sorry about that!!..... sniggers

11-02-2014, 18:04	#6
flagpole Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,524	It's is possible that apple think they have some kind of IP protection over the concept of patent trolling.

11-02-2014, 18:10	#7
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	Quote: Originally Posted by flagpole It's is possible that apple think they have some kind of IP protection over the concept of patent trolling. Very likely there CEO thinks an entire continent is useless so that would be a minor thing.

11-02-2014, 18:29	#8
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Can someone give me the definition of a patent troll, as I'm confused as to why anyone would think apple was one.

11-02-2014, 18:31	#9
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Look only Apple can use patents. If anyone tries to enforce patents against Apple, well they are just mean spirited. But the world is not a fair place. If there was any justice in the world Apple would have a monopoly on tablets and smartphones for the next 20 years.

11-02-2014, 18:31	#10
Three Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,114	I like Apple, but they give as good as they get.

11-02-2014, 19:24	#11
Mystic Eddy Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,885	If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice.

11-02-2014, 19:27	#12
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by Mystic Eddy If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice. Stuff that Apple invented

11-02-2014, 19:31	#13
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Mystic Eddy If you bothered to read the article in full, it's not just Apple complaining: Google, Facebook and others are too. Apple have patents for stuff they've invented, the patent trolls going after Apple et al haven't invented anything, they just want to get money from the patents they've bought which in my opinion allows other companies to complain as it's silly practice. Unfortunately, you've now ruined the "patent troll" story from the "forum troll" OP.

11-02-2014, 19:31	#14
slattery69 Forum Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 204	Its a bit pot and kettle. Apple (along with others) bought the Nortel patents and use a company I think called rock star to go out and sue people for infringement . Which is the very definition of a patent troll.

11-02-2014, 19:32	#15
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	You can tell reading the post on here who has read the article and understood it fully and who hasn't! LOL

11-02-2014, 19:41	#16
swordman Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 6,342	Quote: Originally Posted by Anika Hanson Stuff that Apple invented yes the phone, the computer, rounded corners

11-02-2014, 19:42	#17
wavejockglw Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Glasgow Posts: 10,276	Who cares about Apple? They were a fabulous company with some great ideas and boy did they milk them! Everything has it's time and space and Apple has had it's glory days. All they seem likely to do now is bitch about others and use litigation to prevent innovation and consumers getting value for money. Lets not be too harsh though as Samsung look set to trump Apple in terms of handset cost with the new Galaxy 5 but that is their premium product and they offer plenty of alternatives at more affordable cost that make Apple devices look ridiculously expensive. The courts look like the best place for the retreating Apple boys to hope for in light of the shrinking market for their overpriced devices and their lack of innovation to counter the competitive onslaught.

11-02-2014, 20:00	#18
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by wavejockglw Who cares about Apple? They were a fabulous company with some great ideas and boy did they milk them! Everything has it's time and space and Apple has had it's glory days. All they seem likely to do now is bitch about others and use litigation to prevent innovation and consumers getting value for money. Lets not be too harsh though as Samsung look set to trump Apple in terms of handset cost with the new Galaxy 5 but that is their premium product and they offer plenty of alternatives at more affordable cost that make Apple devices look ridiculously expensive. The courts look like the best place for the retreating Apple boys to hope for in light of the shrinking market for their overpriced devices and their lack of innovation to counter the competitive onslaught. Good story. Have you ever thought of being an author of fiction

11-02-2014, 20:15	#19
Anika Hanson Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: UK Posts: 14,219	Quote: Originally Posted by swordman yes the phone, the computer, rounded corners The wheel

11-02-2014, 23:41	#20
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Right lets look at Apple's class trolling when it went after a cafe http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...over-logo.html Awaits Calico Pie and his mate Kidspud to defend them

12-02-2014, 13:46	#23
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes So you disapprove of Apple going after a cafe for infringing their trademark. Yet you don't seem to think Apple are a Troll If you are talking about a patent troll, you are correct, I don't think they are one. As google and Facebook were also part of the group, do you consider them trolls?

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12-02-2014, 13:56	#24
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud If you are talking about a patent troll, you are correct, I don't think they are one. As google and Facebook were also part of the group, do you consider them trolls? Yet clearly going after a cafe is Trolling!

12-02-2014, 14:08	#25
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Everything Goes Yet clearly going after a cafe is Trolling! I'll ask again, what do you think a patent troll is? As for the cafe story, I think you may have fallen for the headline.