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Old 13-02-2014, 21:44
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Ethernet connector is not same as internet speed.
And wi-fi is not the same as 3G, yet you don't seem to understand that.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:44
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Ethernet connector is not same as internet speed. Do your homework next time. I have just done speed test on my broadband and guess what my S3 says 16.7mbps.

I look forward tp going to 2.5mbps on three network in the office tomorrow morning
Ok now I know you're trolling.... or just dumb.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:45
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Yes I am a customer therefore I say customers! I am sure I am not only three customer who suffer from poor speed, even this forum is full of other customers.

You may be happy with poor speeds three provide but I am not if you don't mind?
Im not happy with there poor speeds either verging on the unusable here
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:47
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Why on earth did you take out a contract with 3 in the first place? Anyone with a bit of mobile nounce tests the signal in their various locations before signing up.
I did test it before I took the contract, I had a payg sim before I took the contract. I got 5 to 6mbps at work and over 10mbps at home to start with so I was happy then I took the contract but it is 2.5mbps in the office and 5.5mpbs at home these days.

Instead of improving three speed is halving!
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:50
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Ok now I know you're trolling.... or just dumb.
Grow up mate stop calling others name just because they have the opinion and experience you don't like.

If anyone is trolling it is you defending the company that provide the internet speed of only 15% customer's handset.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:51
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Grow up mate stop calling others name just because they have the opinion and experience you don't like.

If anyone is trolling it is you defending the company that provide the internet speed of only 15% customer's handset.
How am I defending them.

I'm saying your logic is flawed. The same applies to any network. if you read my posts properly you'd know that. Everyone here doesn't agree with your logic. Not your personal experiences. Your personal experiences are yours. What you've been saying in your posts (about wi-fi and 3G and speed etc...) is completely wrong.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:51
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...it is 2.5mbps in the office and 5.5mpbs at home these days.
So, in other words, all your claims so far have been fictitious?


Why invest in expensive handset if the network you go with can only provide up to 15% of phone's potential speed?
That's patently false if you're getting 5.5Mbps at home.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:52
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I did test it before I took the contract, I had a payg sim before I took the contract. I got 5 to 6mbps at work and over 10mbps at home to start with so I was happy then I took the contract but it is 2.5mbps in the office and 5.5mpbs at home these days.

Instead of improving three speed is halving!
Exaclly what im experiencing except i still get 30mb download speeds at home.However the speeds are unusable 2-3 webpages then i get page cannot be displayed.
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:52
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And wi-fi is not the same as 3G, yet you don't seem to understand that.
Nobody claimed wifi is the same as 3G all we are saying is three's network speed is poor
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:55
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Nobody claimed wifi is the same as 3G all we are saying is three's network speed is poor
Then why are you comparing the two?
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:55
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So, in other words, all your claims so far have been fictitious?
In other words you have not read my posts properly.

That's patently false if you're getting 5.5Mbps at home.
Nothing is false. I am getting 5.5mb at home but not using it at home as it is too poor. Why would I use poor 3 at home when I can get 17mb on wifi?

The figure you need to divide is not 5.5mb it is 2.5mb the poor one I get in the office
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Old 13-02-2014, 21:58
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young turks. We get your point. At work you don't get good speeds with Three.

But the way you've gone about explaining why you get poor speeds, and then relating it to the whole three network is completely wrong and inaccurate.

Your argument has consisted of "my work gets crap speeds therefore three is crap for everyone" and "my wi-fi is faster than 3G therefore three is crap" + loads of other false things. These are wrong and don't apply for any network. And just because you get a fast speed on wi-fi doesn't prove the phone can support fast 3G speeds, completely different things.

And the way you say 2.5Mbps is poor is fine. But then don't go and sound like 2.5Mbps is the max the three network can do. You even said yourself that you've seen 20Mbps on Three. So why are you using one location to justify the whole network is crap. As I said before I don't get good o2 signal in one area. Doesn't mean the whole o2 network is crap or that my phone can't get fast speeds or that o2 can't deliver the max handset speed when they actually could if I was in a DC-HSPA+ area.

Sorry, my english isn't good.

Also... what the hell does this have to do with the OP!
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:02
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Exaclly what im experiencing except i still get 30mb download speeds at home.However the speeds are unusable 2-3 webpages then i get page cannot be displayed.
I had the same problem H+ sign would disappear and get the page can not be displayed then 20 seconds later it would come back. I got so annoyed called them and threaten them with cancellation then constant drop outs suddenly stopped, instead, I end up with poor speeds these days.

I think it is more likely location problem but what is poor is they don't seem to be prepared to send out someone to get it investigated until they receive more complaints etc.

Luckily I am not in 24 months contract and would advise anyone against taking out 24 months contract, not just with 3, but with any of these mobile companies because what they advertise is most likely what you won't be getting!
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:04
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Sorry, that was meant for him, not you - my bad .
Hope you got this, Step666. No hard feelings, eh .
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:05
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In other words you have not read my posts properly.
Sure it is.
Everyone else is wrong and you're right(!)




Nothing is false. I am getting 5.5mb at home but not using it at home as it is too poor. Why would I use poor 3 at home when I can get 17mb on wifi?
It's entirely false. You claimed the network can only offer speeds that are 15% of the phone's capability, 5.5Mbps is clearly more than 15% of 21Mbps.
Your wi-fi has precisely nothing to do with the speeds Three offer.

The figure you need to divide is not 5.5mb it is 2.5mb the poor one I get in the office
No it's not.
As soon as you made your ridiculous claim about the capabilities of the network as a whole, all the speeds matter, not just the one of your choosing that puts the worst possible slant on things.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:06
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Hope you got this, Step666. No hard feelings, eh .
Yeah, saw it.
No hard feelings.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:10
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Ethernet connector is not same as internet speed. Do your homework next time. I have just done speed test on my broadband and guess what my S3 says 16.7mbps.

I look forward tp going to 2.5mbps on three network in the office tomorrow morning
I'm not sure if you are just trolling.

I know the speed of the interface is not the same as internet speed. That was very much my point.

You think that because your phone is capable of 21mbps you should be getting that speed. But you don't think the same of my gigabit nic.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:14
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young turks. We get your point. At work you don't get good speeds with Three.

But the way you've gone about explaining why you get poor speeds, and then relating it to the whole three network is completely wrong and inaccurate.

Your argument has consisted of "my work gets crap speeds therefore three is crap for everyone" and "my wi-fi is faster than 3G therefore three is crap" + loads of other false things. These are wrong and don't apply for any network. And just because you get a fast speed on wi-fi doesn't prove the phone can support fast 3G speeds, completely different things.

And the way you say 2.5Mbps is poor is fine. But then don't go and sound like 2.5Mbps is the max the three network can do. You even said yourself that you've seen 20Mbps on Three. So why are you using one location to justify the whole network is crap. As I said before I don't get good o2 signal in one area. Doesn't mean the whole o2 network is crap or that my phone can't get fast speeds or that o2 can't deliver the max handset speed when they actually could if I was in a DC-HSPA+ area.

Sorry, my english isn't good.

Also... what the hell does this have to do with the OP!
Sorry how would you like me to judge three speeds then if not by my experience?

What I explained is my experience but I have also seen higher speeds on other locations from other people so some people are lucky they get good speed some customers, like me, have poor speeds.

What part of this do you not understand?

I have never said all three network is poor etc but from my experience I would never recommend them because 2.5mpbs is very poor by my standards. Some people might be more than happy with this speed but some, like me, are not. This is perfectly normal

My wifi is faster 3G argument is just to prove that there is nothing wrong with the handset. It does not mean I expect wifi speeds but I definitely expect more than 15% of my handset's potential three is currently providing.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:19
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My wifi is faster 3G argument is just to prove that there is nothing wrong with the handset. It does not mean I expect wifi speeds but I definitely expect more than 15% of my handset's potential three is currently providing.
grrrr. It's this that everyone on here has a problem with. You can't use wi-fi speeds to justify what you could get on 3G. That's now how it works. The chip for Wi-fi is a totally different component than the one for 3G. They are unrelated and do not correlate in any way at all.

You have to understand that no one is saying your personal experience is wrong. what everyone is saying is the way you're explaining your personal experience and relating it to wi-fi and the three network is completely wrong.

And the fact that it has nothing to do with the OP's question... because your phone doesn't even support DC-HSPA+ or LTE.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:21
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So you'd never recommend Three because in 1 place you have slow speeds (which aren't actually that slow) on a handset that doesn't even support later variants of 3G like DC-HSPA. Riiiiight..
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:30
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Sure it is.
Everyone else is wrong and you're right(!)
Right finally you got something right


It's entirely false. You claimed the network can only offer speeds that are 15% of the phone's capability, 5.5Mbps is clearly more than 15% of 21Mbps.
Your wi-fi has precisely nothing to do with the speeds Three offer.
It is entirely correct. My claim is based on poor 3 speeds at work not at home. Instead of jumping in you'd better read what is being discussed next time and get your facts right.

My wi-fi has all to do with the speeds Three offer to prove how poor Three speeds is.


Sure it is.
.No it's not.
As soon as you made your ridiculous claim about the capabilities of the network as a whole, all the speeds matter, not just the one of your choosing that puts the worst possible slant on things.
The only thing that's ridiculous is the speed Three provides.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:34
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Wow!

Anyway... I've just tested my Three network and I get downloads of 6mbs at my desk and 59.9Mbs when connected to wi-fi.
But you cannot compare the two as comparing the 3g network to wi-fi is like comparing a straw to a firehose.
The capacity to carry the water (internet) is small in one and massive in another.

I'm sorry Turk, but you really do not have a clue what you're talking about.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:37
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And the fact that it has nothing to do with the OP's question... because your phone doesn't even support DC-HSPA+ or LTE.
I have seen 4mpbs download speed on Iphone 5 that do support DC-HSPA+ so it has nothing to do with the phone. Why do I need a phone that supports 42+mpbs to get 10mpbs when S3 that supports up to 21mpbs never gets 10mpbs in the first place?

What you need to understand is Three's poor speed has nothing to do with the phone but the network itself.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:40
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I have seen 4mpbs download speed on Iphone 5 that do support DC-HSPA+ so it has nothing to do with the phone. Why do I need a phone that supports 42+mpbs to get 10mpbs when S3 that supports up to 21mpbs never gets 10mpbs in the first place?

What you need to understand is Three's poor speed has nothing to do with the phone but the network itself.
Dual carrier increases speeds because you are able to connect with more bandwidth under DC-HSPA that's why, but only if the phone supports it.
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Old 13-02-2014, 22:43
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What you need to understand is Three's poor speed has nothing to do with the phone but the network itself.
Yes, but what you need to understand is that in order to get close to your theoretical 21mbs from the 3G network, you would have to be sat next to the mast and hope that very few people are using the network at the same time.
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