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Old 14-02-2014, 11:37
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What is the price difference? From what i understand Halal meat seems to produced in a much more historic and humane way than meat say caged and then electrocuted?
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Old 14-02-2014, 11:45
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What is the price difference? From what i understand Halal meat seems to produced in a much more historic and humane way than meat say caged and then electrocuted?
The meat is the same, it's only the slaughter that is different. I personally think stunning an animal before killing it is more humane than cutting it whilst conscious and letting it bleed to death.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...slaughter.html
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Old 14-02-2014, 12:29
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What is the price difference? From what i understand Halal meat seems to produced in a much more historic and humane way than meat say caged and then electrocuted?
Halal maybe historic, but humane?! Either you understand wrong, or you have an odd sense of what that word means.
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Old 14-02-2014, 14:51
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If eventually your going to tear the flesh with your teath and digest the condemned beast who cares if it's killed humanly? To worry about such things is rather contrite.
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Old 14-02-2014, 15:14
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If eventually your going to tear the flesh with your teath and digest the condemned beast who cares if it's killed humanly? To worry about such things is rather contrite.
Errr... because there's the part where the animal is, you know, alive.
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Old 14-02-2014, 15:24
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The vast majority of halal meat in the UK is stunned before slaughtering anyway, so it makes little difference.
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Old 14-02-2014, 15:26
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Errr... because there's the part where the animal is, you know, alive.
The way many animals are treated when alive, death is probably the kinder option.
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Old 14-02-2014, 17:43
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If eventually your going to tear the flesh with your teath and digest the condemned beast who cares if it's killed humanly? To worry about such things is rather contrite.
There are quality issues. One is adrenalin pumping through the body if the animal is too stressed.
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Old 14-02-2014, 18:41
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There are quality issues. One is adrenalin pumping through the body if the animal is too stressed.
I didn't know that, if the method of slaughter effects the quality then it's important. How does adrenaline effect the meat?
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Old 14-02-2014, 19:09
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I didn't know that, if the method of slaughter effects the quality then it's important. How does adrenaline effect the meat?
I don't know the ins and outs of it. I heard about it on a documentary. Possibly River Cottage or Kill it, cook it, eat it.

If you search for "adrenalin meat quality" then there are several sites explaining it
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Old 15-02-2014, 01:26
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Notwithstanding the requirement to mention Allah's name before the slaughter, Halal just sounds like the way we used to kill animals in this country i.e. a sharp knife to the neck, and allow to bleed dry.

I remember my gran preparing over a hundred poultry in this way at Christmas - not a pretty sight, but you got used to it.
I never did it, I generally occupied myself in the plucking part of the process.
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Old 15-02-2014, 08:16
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What is the price difference? From what i understand Halal meat seems to produced in a much more historic and humane way than meat say caged and then electrocuted?
Take about 15 minutes on Youtube to educate yourself on Halal slaughter
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Old 15-02-2014, 12:01
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The way many animals are treated when alive, death is probably the kinder option.
Only if you buy cheap meat. If I couldn't afford decent quality meat, I wouldn't eat it.
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Old 15-02-2014, 12:03
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I didn't know that, if the method of slaughter effects the quality then it's important. How does adrenaline effect the meat?
It can cause purple patches in the meat. The adrenalin will cause the muscles to tighten and will produce tougher meat.
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Old 15-02-2014, 12:07
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I've heard of animals being butchered after being stunned and the stunning process not actually killing them, so they are still alive when being butchered. Surely the Halal way of slaughter takes away any doubt.
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Old 15-02-2014, 14:16
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Only if you buy cheap meat. If I couldn't afford decent quality meat, I wouldn't eat it.
Personally I am not that fussed. I already spend a fortune on meat, so if I only bought the top quality stuff it'd cost me too much.
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Old 16-02-2014, 08:08
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If eventually your going to tear the flesh with your teath and digest the condemned beast who cares if it's killed humanly? To worry about such things is rather contrite.
We're all going to die and be eaten by maggots or cremated but we all want as pain free a death as possible, why should it be different for animals?
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Old 16-02-2014, 09:21
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As has already been stated above, the only difference in taste will come from the adrenaline being pumped through to the animals muscles as it fights for survival during its lingering death.

I wouldn't know what effect it has on the taste as I wouldn't ever knowingly eat it on principle.
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Old 16-02-2014, 10:38
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We're all going to die and be eaten by maggots or cremated but we all want as pain free a death as possible, why should it be different for animals?
It would be akin to the maggots caring about the method of slaughter before feasting on a carcass.
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Old 16-02-2014, 10:43
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It would be akin to the maggots caring about the method of slaughter before feasting on a carcass.
I think those of us that don't care about the inhumane treatment of animals and methods of slaughter, do indeed share many traits with maggots.
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Old 16-02-2014, 11:15
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I think those of us that don't care about the inhumane treatment of animals and methods of slaughter, do indeed share many traits with maggots.
Agree with this. Plus the fact that dosanjh's comment is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen on the food and drink forum for a while.
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Old 16-02-2014, 16:51
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Agree with this. Plus the fact that dosanjh's comment is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen on the food and drink forum for a while.
It's only my opinion, I think it's hypocritical to on the one hand to have concern for animal welfare and in particular slaughter methods and then on the other hand to wish the deaths of these animals to eat them.

I can understand a vegetarian not eating meat for ethical reasons, I can understand meat eaters who's only concern is what's on their plate - I don't understand the compassionate meat eaters.
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Old 01-03-2014, 16:42
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Halal meat is cheaper for some reason. I am a vegetarian so only going by the prices displayed in Halal butchers windows.
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Old 01-03-2014, 17:51
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You need you head checking if you think halal is humane.

It's only my opinion, I think it's hypocritical to on the one hand to have concern for animal welfare and in particular slaughter methods and then on the other hand to wish the deaths of these animals to eat them.

I can understand a vegetarian not eating meat for ethical reasons, I can understand meat eaters who's only concern is what's on their plate - I don't understand the compassionate meat eaters.
If you eat meat how can causing pain to animals not be a factor to consider?

You are clearly a biased vegi.
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:35
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It's only my opinion, I think it's hypocritical to on the one hand to have concern for animal welfare and in particular slaughter methods and then on the other hand to wish the deaths of these animals to eat them..
Like I said, we're all going to die ( death is a part of life ) but we'd all like a pain-free death ( as much as possible ) not a violent and drawn out one.

There's no way you'd like to die by having your throat slit whilst conscious, so why inflict it on animals? A gun shot to the head is the most humane way or being put to sleep with a lethal injection but both those methods are probably too expensive for the farming industry to use and in the case of lethal injection, expensive AND a risk of drug residue being in the meat.
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