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The Ratings Thread (Part 58)
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xeo
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“There was still no need for it, if that was the case.”

I'd be pretty bored if they kept covering the floods for hours on end, to be quite frank.
yorkie100
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“"Every week"? "Always"? Saturday Night Takeaway has only been on the same night as The Voice UK twice!!

As has been said, last year was the first series of SNT in four years and (as was commonly acknowledged at the time) that boosted it. It also aired most of its series before Series 2 of TVUK began, allowing it to gain a foothold from people getting into the habit of watching it, and the second episode of SNT which was scheduled against TVUK was also boosted by a major publicity stunt by Ant and Dec. Whether it maintains the surge in popularity that all those factors came together to provide it with last year, particularly when the 'one show already being mid-series before the other comes along' situation is this time reversed into TVUK's favour, remains to be seen.”

My memory was that they had clashed for more than that but I am obviously wrong.
yorkie100
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“New Year Fireworks (this year only not previous years), an appearance on Strictly and.... ”

Exactly. She came across well on SCD so I am told but other than that?
I mean shes no Julia Bradbury is she? The BBC certainly give her plenty of work.
Ice dragon1
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“I'd be pretty bored if they kept covering the floods for hours on end, to be quite frank.”

It's the news though I don't really want them talking to Katie Price there's chat shows for that stuff.
Agent F
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“It's the news though I don't really want them talking to Katie Price there's chat shows for that stuff.”

I think anyone familiar with GMTV would not refer to it simply as "the news". News was a part of what they did but so were showbiz interviews with the likes of Katie Price among other features.

You can say what you like about GMTV but at least it was a very clear and distinctive alternative to the BBC's offering.
Ice dragon1
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I think anyone familiar with GMTV would not refer to it simply as "the news". News was a part of what they did but so were showbiz interviews with the likes of Katie Price among other features.

You can say what you like about GMTV but at least it was a very clear and distinctive alternative to the BBC's offering.”

It's clearly not working though if your going to be a news program then you should focus on the news.
yorkie100
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“I think anyone familiar with GMTV would not refer to it simply as "the news". News was a part of what they did but so were showbiz interviews with the likes of Katie Price among other features.

You can say what you like about GMTV but at least it was a very clear and distinctive alternative to the BBC's offering.”

I sometimes do wonder why ITV bother about a breakfast show at all. They could certainly get equivalent and better ratings broadcasting different shows even repeats. It certainly does their reputation no good being linked to perceived failure.
D.M.N.
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“It's clearly not working though if your going to be a news program then you should focus on the news.”

So what is BBC Breakfast between 08:30 and 09:15 each day then? Not a news programme?

(PS - I watch Breakfast, but the above comments are somewhat bizarre)
Ice dragon1
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“So what is BBC Breakfast between 08:30 and 09:15 each day then? Not a news programme?

(PS - I watch Breakfast, but the above comments are somewhat bizarre)”

What
SamuelW
16-02-2014
Tonight's Itv News at 10 oclock will rate particularly well compared to usual due to no opposing BBC News at the same time. So please dont be surprised when it gets 4m+ in tomorrow's overnights.
Andy23
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Ice dragon1:
“What ”

Give it up, you're out of your depth.
H of De Vil
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Tonight's Itv News at 10 oclock will rate particularly well compared to usual due to no opposing BBC News at the same time. So please dont be surprised when it gets 4m+ in tomorrow's overnights.”

Heaven forbid. If it does get a rating over 4.5m I will mention it, since it doesn't happen often.
Ice dragon1
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Give it up, you're out of your depth.”

I wasn't really talking to you Andy so why interrupt?
tobi
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“New Year Fireworks (this year only not previous years), an appearance on Strictly and.... ”

I, for one, think that Susannah is right to take this opportunity. Who wouldn't take this opportunity if it was presented to us. The money will secure her family's future and she will become the main anchor person on a new morning show. Sure, it may not work but she will be one of the most talked about presenters in the country and this will ensure other work as well.
C14E
16-02-2014
For Susanna Reid it makes sense. Presenters (particularly female presenters) are often "hot" enough to spark a bidding war only once in their careers. She's going to get paid a lot more money, avoid a lengthy travel to Salford and she'll be the Queen Bee, with ITV building a whole show around her. No doubt ITV have included a clause that involves them finding her primetime work as well.

It's a lot of money for a breakfast presenter but at this point ITV's need is greater than the BBC's so they'll pay up as required. I struggle to see this working out particularly well, Breakfast has a massive lead, but I don't watch breakfast TV and never have so I'm not exactly an expert in the area!

From the ratings it just seems that every revamp costs them more viewers. Perhaps they're betting on a new brand generating some interest but wasn't that the original pitch for Daybreak? And yet looking at the recent Daybreak ratings, they kind of have to take a swing at a re-brand, even if the odds are that it won't work. Because the status quo isn't working either.

And I think there could be a lot more than Helen Warner's job riding on this! I wonder if this is the last swing at breakfast for ITV? If this doesn't work out then what next? How many brands, producers, commissioners, presenters... will they try before they think it's a lost cause and give up?
Last Request
16-02-2014
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Give it up, you're out of your depth.”

Spot on
Fudd
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Tonight's Itv News at 10 oclock will rate particularly well compared to usual due to no opposing BBC News at the same time. So please dont be surprised when it gets 4m+ in tomorrow's overnights.”

It should definitely be up week on week considering a 4m+ lead in and no news opposition.

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Give it up, you're out of your depth.”

Originally Posted by Last Request:
“Spot on”

Come on, don't be so sharp, it's what's dragging the thread down.
patrick95
17-02-2014
Channel 4 are showing the premier of Bridesmaids next Sunday. Hugely popular film- could see a figure of over 2.5 million for this, although possibly dented by the female skewing Selfridge?

Benefits Street debate airs tomorrow aswell, while I still feel this will pull in a good number ( easly clearing 2 million hopefully ) 4 were fools to throw it around the scheudle in this manner. Isn't it going against 5's Immigration Debate aswell?
yorkie100
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“It should definitely be up week on week considering a 4m+ lead in and no news opposition.





Come on, don't be so sharp, it's what's dragging the thread down.”

Completely agree. People really need to edit themselves before they post or the mods need to get involved.
Servalan
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by tobi:
“I, for one, think that Susannah is right to take this opportunity. Who wouldn't take this opportunity if it was presented to us. The money will secure her family's future and she will become the main anchor person on a new morning show. Sure, it may not work but she will be one of the most talked about presenters in the country and this will ensure other work as well.”

I understand your logic - but history has shown that BBC presenters transferring to ITV do not necessarily flourish (Chiles and Bleakley being the most obvious recent examples). There's no guarantee the audience will follow her ... plus does she really want to get up at the crack of dawn? Isn't the more attractive option a primetime gig?
GoshBagosh
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by patrick95:
“Channel 4 are showing the premier of Bridesmaids next Sunday. Hugely popular film- could see a figure of over 2.5 million for this, although possibly dented by the female skewing Selfridge?

Benefits Street debate airs tomorrow aswell, while I still feel this will pull in a good number ( easly clearing 2 million hopefully ) 4 were fools to throw it around the scheudle in this manner. Isn't it going against 5's Immigration Debate aswell?”

Channel 4 are going to have an excellent night ... over 3 million for 9pm, i'm guessing
xeo
17-02-2014
Sam Hodges ‏@Sam_Hodges 3m
#CalltheMidwife (8.4m) and #Countryfile (6.2m) were Sunday's highest rating programmes. #BBC1
cylon6
17-02-2014
Doesn't sound like The BAFTAs or Blandings did particularly well.

And I was right.

"@Jake_Kanter: The Bafta Film Awards drew 4.6m (22.1%) viewers, its lowest audience since 2010. #tellyratings"
SamuelW
17-02-2014
Whats happened to Call the Midwife the last few episodes? Last weeks episode was its lowest overnight rating since series 1. Yesterdays episode was its worst overnight rating since its first ever episode.
newkid30
17-02-2014
Greater competition from BBC2?
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