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Old 02-03-2014, 09:55
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Off The Beaten Track could sum up Christine Bleakley's career. Having a particularly bad time at ITV.
The figures weren't that bad and no worse than everything else in that slot. But they tend to keep that style of series but with a different presenter each time. Ade Edmondspn, Gryff Rhys Jones and someone else have all done them in the past year or so, and won't be returning. Obviously because it's Christine, it has to have flopped to fit the narrative. Some cold hard facts- she hasn't been under exclusive contract with ITV since the summer, yet they still employ her.

Her career has barely suffered at ITV anyway. What would she have actually done at the BBC? (Excluding the rumoured Olympics role which would've been tiny)
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:56
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The Voice is no Strictly though. I watched SCD when it was 2 hours long, and the difference is that it didn't feel like 2 hours. The Voice's 2 hours genuinely felt like an eternity after so many voice offs! It was a well produced show and entertaining, but I'm not sure I can manage another 2 hours next week, especially as we are not really bothered about the people competing. I will likely watch SNT next week and record The Voice so I can skip through to see who wins each round.
The Voice dragged a little bit lat night. But due to the way the ratings rose significantly after SNT finished, expect every remaining episode of the series to be a long 2hr one. If yesterday's Voice had been 80-90mins like previous episodes, it would've averaged 6.4/6.5m. Those extra 50mins boosted its average by about 0.6m. The live shows will be this long too.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:57
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Turns out 7.9m peak was the 15-min peak. 5min peak for TVUK was 8.2m. And as D.M.N. posted, The Voice did win the clash.


From a ratings POV, it was the perfect decision to have a 2hr10min show. When I criticise the XFactor for having such long shows, the ratings for its long episodes always tend to tail off post 9pm as it frags on to about 10pm. This was the opposite case, in which the ratings grew throughout during last night's Voice.
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Not to bad for both shows last night, interesting to see if the voice continues to fall or stabilises. I thought it was quite a good flowing show so I don't envisage a mass turn off but who knows, Might be able to timeshift over 8m at a push. SNT does well to increase, I get the feeling it's going to keep doing that.

MOTD wins rating of the day. Amazing number!
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:59
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I suspect MOTD was helped a bit by word of Mr Pardew's antics on the touch line (sorry, technical area)
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:01
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Surprisingly decent for The Cube considering it faced The Voice for basically the whole episode. That's an improvement on what Take Me Out had been doing without The Voice against it. The swish new graphics looked really good from what I saw.

Turns out 7.9m peak was the 15-min peak. 5min peak for TVUK was 8.2m. And as D.M.N. posted, The Voice did win the clash.
That looks slightly better although it's still quite a way down on previous weeks. Yep, it won the clash without +1 although Takeaway was ahead with it. Although I estimate that across last week's running time (so to compare the same 7-8.30pm slot week to week) it was down about 700k (to 6.5-6.6m), so a pretty standard drop.

From a ratings POV, it was the perfect decision to have a 2hr10min show. When I criticise the XFactor for having such long shows, the ratings for its long episodes always tend to tail off post 9pm as it frags on to about 10pm. This was the opposite case, in which the ratings grew throughout during last night's Voice.
I agree that for a 2 hour show 7-9pm is the optimum time to air it, although I maintain that with no ad breaks 2 hours 15 mins was just too long. I suspect it'll drop again next week.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:03
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Next week will be the test. I felt the show went on much too long and my attention started to wander after the nth screeching contest started. It should've been split, half shown on Saturday and half on Sunday.
I agree with this completely. A split showing all judges contestants compete over two nights would boost the ratings.

It may go down next week because it was a marathon episode. I think it is helped by the new judging panel. This is keeping "The Voice" afloat. The panel are much more likeable and interact well. I think they could be responsible for the ratings hold.

Im very pleased its doing so well this year but the format is flawed even the judges feeling uncomfortable about sending their own contestants home. The public should immediately decide on this part of the show over stripped live episodes I think. Probably cost more to produce but at the moment the public aren't involved enough in the series to care about what happens to the contestants and the judges look stupid putting contestants through and then dropping them. Its an awkward part of the process that isn't engaging enough to build the audience.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:03
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I agree that for a 2 hour show 7-9pm is the optimum time to air it, although I maintain that with no ad breaks 2 hours 15 mins was just too long. I suspect it'll drop again next week.
Even with the rugby inflated lead-in, do you expect it'll fall again next week? In previous weeks, the rugby has boost tvuk by about 0.5m.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:05
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Davina McCall fronting cycling for the BBC reminds me of Chris Evans' disastrous attempts to cover golf for 5Live - on one day he actually forgot to turn up for the broadcast such was his knowledge and expertise.
As a presenter, he forgot what time the programme was due to start.

Being married to a golf pro, and taking part in several pro-am tournaments has probably given him absolutely no knowledge & expertise of all things golf. And of course he's a total amateur when it comes to broadcasting, never been on national radio, ever.


Or have I got it wrong somewhere along the line?
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:07
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I agree that for a 2 hour show 7-9pm is the optimum time to air it, although I maintain that with no ad breaks 2 hours 15 mins was just too long. I suspect it'll drop again next week.
Instead of going straight to the Battle Rounds, there should be two weeks of Performance Rounds, where each contestant is given a song by the judge to tackle and scored by the judges on their performance. The contestants with the lowest scores then go on to compete in the battle rounds afterwards.

This would enable viewers to engage an interest in the contestants aswell as ensuring the weaker artists are put into the Battle rounds rather than having the judges to choose between artists they've only just chosen! This might be a way of maintaining viewers throughout its run. I agree with you though, it is likely to drop next week.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:09
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UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK 2m
Other Saturday ratings: BBC1 - Pointless Celebs 4.47m/24.1%; Casualty 5.15m/25.2%.
ITV - The Cube 4.01m/18.0%; Jonathan Ross 2.38m/11.9%.

BIG rating for Casualty there. Is that it's highest rating for a while?
No Casualty has been doing quite well recently. It was just under 5m last week but previous to that had been over 5m for a number of weeks - 5.31m a few weeks ago.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:09
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Instead of going straight to the Battle Rounds, there should be two weeks of Performance Rounds, where each contestant is given a song by the judge to tackle and scored by the judges on their performance. The contestants with the lowest scores then go on to compete in the battle rounds afterwards.

This would enable viewers to engage an interest in the contestants aswell as ensuring the weaker artists are put into the Battle rounds rather than having the judges to choose between artists they've only just chosen! This might be a way of maintaining viewers throughout its run. I agree with you though, it is likely to drop next week.
Send yer idea in and get them to change the format! Its why the ratings stumble.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:10
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Even with the rugby inflated lead-in, do you expect it'll fall again next week? In previous weeks, the rugby has boost tvuk by about 0.5m.
After more than 2 hours of rugby, do you really think people will have the attention span for 2.5 hours of the Voice.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:11
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#TheVoiceUK dropped to 6.95m/30.4%, its lowest rating this series. It just got the better of #SaturdayNightTakeaway though (6.87m/29.8%).

Interesting ratings, obviously SNT includes +1.
Not a bad rating for the Voice there. Good for SNT as well.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:13
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I suspect MOTD was helped a bit by word of Mr Pardew's antics on the touch line (sorry, technical area)
Technical area - is that what we are calling the Hulls players face then.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:15
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Even with the rugby inflated lead-in, do you expect it'll fall again next week? In previous weeks, the rugby has boost tvuk by about 0.5m.
Forgot about the rugby. In that case I'd expect it to be about level next week. A 0.5m rugby boost cancelled out by a 0.5m drop it would have we're the rugby not on.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:20
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Any news on the wonderful Stewart Lee yet?

As for the Rugby, I think England v Wales is on next Sunday.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:21
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Forgot about the rugby. In that case I'd expect it to be about level next week. A 0.5m rugby boost cancelled out by a 0.5m drop it would have we're the rugby not on.
It's Scotland v France though, and the French will win it easily. Scotland & Italy are the poorest teams in the competition by some margin.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:25
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I think Samuel said what would happen with The Voice and Takeaway. The Voice down, Takeaway up, still close.

Will Takeaway win next week or will rugby give The Voice a boost?
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:26
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There is a finite audience for both shows, one goes up one goes down. I was subjected to SNT last night (harmless dated entertainment) then the last part of the voice afterwards (bland singers who cried a lot)....Maybe SNT will take the lead next week, but a decent rating for each show all the same.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:28
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I think Samuel said what would happen with The Voice and Takeaway. The Voice down, Takeaway up, still close.
Thanks. Yeah, both shows rated about what I said for my expert projections last week:
Here's my rough Voice projection for next week:

- No rugby direct or in-direct lead-in: in previous weeks rugby has boosted the Voice to 8.4m compared to 7.6m or so without it,a boost of 0.8m. Yesterday as rugby didnt directly lead-in into the Voice, its effect probably wasnt as much as 0.8m, maybe around 0.4m of a boost was due to rugby/highly-inflated Pointless. So lets' say next week The Voice will automatically drop 0.4m due to no rugby enhanced BBC1 viewing. Now down to 6.9m.

- Battle stage instead of blind audition: in previous two series, the first battle episode has rated about 0.6million lower than the final blind audition. Let's say that happens next week. Now down to 6.3m.

- 40 more minutes not against SNT: this is going to help the Voice next week. The period from 8.30-9.10pm could rate around 9m+ which will inflate the average. Let's say for argument's sake, it inflates it by about 0.5m than what would've been the case if the Voice just aired between 7-8.30pm. That means the Voice would now be projecting at 6.8m.

Therefore next week The Voice will be looking at an average rating of around 6.8m or so, down 0.5m from last night. SNT will pick up about 50% of those 0.5m which will take it up to around 6.3/6.4m [excl +1]. It'll be closer next week but the Voice may well stay ahead even for its battle auditions stage.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:32
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Thanks. Yeah, both shows rated about what I said for my expert projections last week:
Dont you just hate it when Samuel is right !!!
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:36
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Dont you just hate it when Samuel is right !!!
He is right most of the time! It's his "in between" posts that prevent us from realising that though. Bless him though, I do think he brightens this place up.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:36
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Surprisingly decent for The Cube considering it faced The Voice for basically the whole episode. That's an improvement on what Take Me Out had been doing without The Voice against it. The swish new graphics looked really good from what I saw.
Guess they complement each other better.

Let's face it though however bad The Voice is it's done enough this series to probably secure at least two more series, and it's doing far better than any other talent show BBC have tried outside Strictly season with the exception of the first 2-3 series of Let's Dance - which was on a par ratings rise but only 4-5 weeks of the year and bounce about all over the place.

Now if only the BBC could make an entertainment show which was entertaining rather than a chore...


P.S. Stripping out the ads presumably Takeaway won the head to head quite easily without +1. Would be interesting though to see if The Voice peaked during those ad breaks and whether there is much of a crossover audience.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:38
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Now if only the BBC could make an entertainment show which was entertaining rather than a chore...
Although it could be assumed that the 6-7m who watch TV do actually find it entertaining.........................................
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:41
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He is right most of the time! It's his "in between" posts that prevent us from realising that though. Bless him though, I do think he brightens this place up.
I think there are a number of former and present posters who might just disagree with you there !!!
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