Looking at todays schedule, it does seem strange that the League Cup final highlights are tucked away at 11.30 on BBC1 tonight-might have thought it would have had a higher profile.

Or...... they could devise their own next big worldwide format...

BRING ON THE WALL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWIZg78EWWM

Makes Splash! look like a high gloss entertainment production by comparison!

Yeh I know it was licensed and not their own idea.

Sorry to be a pain as I've already asked this, but any ratings announced for Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle yet?

Stewart Lee is already renewed for another season after this one, so I'm not sure it matters that much.

Wednesday's One Show show is usually the lowest yes, because the 2nd half tends to be badly dented by ITV. Outside of that it is fair to say that Friday's show does have a habit of rating lower than the other half hour shows - not sure how much that can be blamed on Chris Evans (audiences generally lower on Friday evening but percentage share is often lower too).

Personally I don't watch the Friday One Show and that is because I do find Chris Evans annoying on it - I just don't think it's the right format for him and he seems to try too hard. At the same time there are probably people who only watch on Friday so it'll balance out...

Yes, but I would have thought that made it an even more striking change on last week. So is The Cube an exception to the rule that celeb versions of gameshows rate higher?

It was reported the other day that Kylie has already signed for series 4

They had a bit of a weird situation with The Cube where last night's episode was the start of a new series featuring all new games, graphics, changes to the set and new opening titles. Last week's celeb episode was actually left over from last year's run and therefore had all the old graphics, titles etc, so it would have looked odd to air it as part of the new series, which is why they effectively burned it off last week in the early slot with no promotion, hence why it did so badly as it was just tossed out with no promotion. All the promotion was for the new series starting last night, therefore it rated a lot better. Had they given last week's episode the same promotion it would have rated better than it did.

So The Voice drops for the third week in a row - yet the 7m rating is hailed as a success even though its down on the first battle round from 2013?! Only on here that could happen. If this was TXF, they'd be endless posts of a crisis and how the show is doomed. No doubt it will fall next weekend too.

Great to see SNT increase week-on-week. I'm expecting it to overtake The Voice soon as it moves into its latter stages.

Contractual reasons.

An Olympic Balloon ident would have spectacular in 2012 with the balloon flying over the Olympic Stadium.

Shame really...they were a brilliant ident set. I think it's one of the best ident sets BBC1 has ever had.

Here's all the stats we need to know about The Voice:

- yesterday's battle show was #1 most watched show of the day on any channel
- yesterday's battle show was #1 most watched show among key 16-34 demographic
- The Voice is beating SNT so far this year, a role reversal of what happened last year
- yesterday was the Voice's best ever performance for a 1st battle show in terms of week-on-week retention
- The Voice series 3 has averaged 7.8m (34%) so far in the overnights, more than the full series averages of series 1 [7.6m] and series 2 [6.4m]
- The Voice series 3 is currently up a massive 1.4m year on year
- The Voice has been the most popular entertainment show so far this year on any channel
- The Voice has helped BBC One achieve 24%+ prime time shares every Saturday so far this year, well up from last year when no Saturday prime time got over 24% until April
- The Voice has helped BBC One achieve its best January monthly shares for years
- the buzz and critical acclaim for series 3 of the Voice has been the show's best ever
- The Voice has boosted the rest of BBC One's schedule: Casualty, for instance, battered The Jonathan Ross Show by more than 2 to 1
- The Voice is the most popular singing talent show in the country for viewers aged 65+ living in Oxfordshire
- On independent polls, more than 50% of voters have said this is the best series of the Voice yet
- The Voice's audience is more upmarket in terms of % compared to other shows of the genre including Britain's Got Talent, The XFactor and I'm a Celebrity
- The Voice killed off the second series of Splash, Itv's most watched new entertainment series since 2007, which was down 1.5million year on year
- The Voice is BBC One's most popular Q1 entertainment series of this Millenium

Well I like him and find Matt a bit of a boring, eager to please, smug presenter

Funny to think that the current set of BBC One idents are almost 8 years old. I think new idents are long overdue - or at least a refresh of the current circles theme.

Complete aside but apparently Russia's Channel 1 has cancelled coverage of tonight's Oscars ceremony. There is something vaguely cold-war about that somehow.

I now you are trying to make a point here but this seems so random We need a national referendum of 65+ so that all the other counties can have a say too

1. So?! It's down y-o-y.
2. Where have you got this info from?
3. Expect that to change very soon.
4. Like point 1, doesn't stop it from been down y-o-y.
5. If you're going to compare a series average at least do it to the same stage...not the complete series average.
6. As above. Stupid comparison.
7. It's had no competition yet. Wait untll BGT starts next month.
8. Fair point.
9. Ditto.
10. Haha!! Well then, what else is there to say...
11. Agree.
12. Are you for real? Who cares about this?! (excluding you obviously)
13. Well compared to the last two awful series that is probably true.

Seriously? Why have they done that?

Last year's first battle show aired in a later timeslot when more viewers are watching tv, and faced far weaker competition [just the Cube] rather than SNT. So it's not surprising it is slightly down y-o-y. But overall, the series is well up from last year which is the main thing to look at. Episode to episode, it will vary, but overall the show is up over a million from last year.

Its on the BBC live text coverage. See the entry at 14.48.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26405082

Its starting to look a bit awkward when you read all the tit for tat reactions going on.

Ah I see. Should have guessed.

That's because most of the episodes had no competition and it airing from January onwards.

Gaah, not this old chestnut again! ITV Studios have nothing to do with what Graham Norton does on his programme. The point of ITV Studios buying So TV is so they can expand their horizons to new channels and genres. If ITV Studios filled all the programmes they make for the BBC and other channels with ITV cross-promotion, the BBC and other channels would axe them all and they wouldn't commission anything else, hence rendering the whole thing pointless.

12 Yard, an ITV Studios company, make Who Dares Wins and In It To Win It which often go up against ITV's big Saturday night programmes. Do they make these deliberately crap? Don't answer that.

Ant and Dec were promoting Takeaway in the same way Jamie Dornan was promoting his new drama on C4, Naomi Campbell was promoting her new series on Sky Living and Aaron Paul was promoting his new film (which people go to the pictures to see rather than stay in and watch the BBC). The other week Lee Mack was promoting Duck Quacks Don't Echo which is not only on Sky One but also shown opposite Norton's programme. It's all fair game, Ant and Dec are famous and popular and it was worth having them on, I enjoyed the interview. And the audience don't care what channels they're on.


Regardless they're not going to a new Marple straight after ITV have just done one. There was a twelve year gap between the Beeb's Marple finishing in 1992 and ITV's starting in 2004, which is about long enough for people to start forgetting about the old one and for it to be considered worth doing again creatively, when you can bring something new to it and take advantage of the changes in film making and story-telling techniques. Certainly no need to do it now.

The quickest I can remember a franchise being tried on both channels is Dalziel and Pascoe where of course ITV did an adaptation in 1994 and the Beeb tried again in 1996, helped by the ITV version being a big flop and nobody remembering it. There are a couple of occasions of two channels trying their own adaptations, the Beeb tried to dramatise Frances Fyfield's Helen West books in 1993 but the first one-off was unsuccessful and they didn't bother with any more, then in 2000 ITV had a go, which got as far as a series but was never recommissioned.


Yes, I agree with this, I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the first two series, my personal favourites, but that was an exceptional programme and I'm happy with quite good Creek above most things (though I thought the upside down painting was massively obvious). I thought some of the comments on here were ridiculous, even if The Times slagged it off, the Radio Times and The Guardian both gave it very positive reviews. I think it's rubbish to slag it off because "it didn't have a mystery in it", it's like when Sherlock got slagged off for not being a "proper" episode. What David Renwick wants to do with it is entirely up to him, it's his programme. It's not about what it's supposed to be, it is what it is. Renwick always said it was modelled on Columbo which famously always showed you how the crime was done at the start.


It was Janice Hadlow who put it in the 11.20 slot, and Stewart Lee said at the time she told him she wanted to try very experimental stuff in that slot, and he was very happy to be on at that time. But as you say, they probably don't have the budget now to justify putting new programmes in that slot. It sits perfectly well on Saturday, the same slot as The Thick Of It of course and an obvious alternative to the other channels.


As mentioned, Arsenal could only play on the Saturday but at teatime Chelsea vs Spurs is on Sky, and there's the rugby on BBC1 of course, which presumably ITV felt would have cannibalised its audience to a large extent. I know at 12.45 it's opposite a Man U game on BT but obviously BT has a lower audience. Their other game, Hull vs Sunderland, clearly isn't strong enough for a primetime slot so in the end they have no primetime match, though that's not the first time.


Oh, does it?

Week ending 14th February, from Broadcast
The One Show (Wed) - 4.93m
The One Show (Thu) - 4.72m
The One Show (Fri) - 4.52m
The One Show (Tue) - 4.49m
The One Show (Mon) - 4.18m

In addition, if he's so unpopular, presumably his radio show which he dominates from start to finish must be a flop, mustn't it, and not the most listened to radio show in Britain, with ever increasing listening figures? Mustn't it?


As mentioned, it's contractual reasons which mean they can't show any League Cup football before 11pm - and obviously they can't show MOTD after it because then you'd be heading towards 1am. It was the same time last year, and ITV rarely showed the highlights before 11pm. Be better if it was live on free to air TV to make it a proper occasion, but alas it isn't, which is a decision by the Football League.

If it was Man U v Chelsea, it would have a higher profile as they have more fans. Sunderland's following is mostly confined to parts of the North East.

I don't know if it was reported in this thread but last Sunday's episode of Blandings (episode 2) had 4.04m overnights putting it ahead of the previous Wednesday's Outnumbered (3.85m). Figures taken from Broadcast, though, so I believe they're not tape-checked and was it the case that BBC1 shows were a bit out of their slots last Sunday? Blandings outrating Outnumbered is a bit of a result for Blandings, given the respective critical reviews.

Of course, Outnumbered moves well away in the consolidated ratings. Outnumbered had the biggest timeshift of the week for 2 of its first 3 episodes whereas episode 1 of Blandings timeshifted practically nothing.

Some big variations in Outnumbered's timeshift audiences, though.
Ep. 1: 2.14m
Ep. 2: 1/16m
Ep. 3: 1.78m