The Ratings Thread (Part 58)

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cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Terrible once again for Dancing on Ice. The numbers have been worse than I ever imagined. 4.7m for the main show is very poor indeed. The Skate Off seems to have stabilised though, however at a very poor level.

Odd to seem CTM losing viewers on a weekly basis. Next year with Rising Star on the cards may cause the show a few problems. Top Gear continues to rate very well. Up again for the 3rd week in a row.”

Rising Star could do to Call The Midwife what it did to Dancing On Ice. Could be stronger competition than some expect.

Andy23

17-02-2014

What a difference a few weeks makes, back then the obituary of ITV's Sunday nights was being written, people saying they would never have a big success at this time of year ever again as BBC1's line up of Call the Midwife and The Musketeers was just unstoppable and likely to be scheduled for many years to come.

Since then the Musketeers has dropped every week and even Call the Midwife is showing a slight sign of weakness. Shows that such bold predictions are foolish.

yorkie100

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Rising Star could do to Call The Midwife what it did to Dancing On Ice. Could be stronger competition than some expect.”

Or not.

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by johnnymc:
“I wonder if it will just follow a pattern of "Ripper Street" and "The Musketeers" and something new will be aired on Sunday evenings next year against "Mr Selfridge". Did the current controller even commision "The Musketeers" I dont think she did so she may have her own plans of what she wants to launch there. Although I guess her drama contoller will also have opinions on where to pitch drama, but Moore may want something different again next January as "Call The Midwife" gives a great lead in.”

BBC1 has a problem in that it just can't find a programme that can follow Call The Midwife and keep most of the audience. Ripper Street and now The Musketeers have failed to do this. ITV had a potent combination for years with Wild At Heart following Dancing On Ice.

dullagj2

17-02-2014

Code:

1. CALL THE MIDWIFE (SUN 2004): 10.23m
2. CORONATION STREET (MON 1933): 9.53m
3. THE VOICE UK (SAT 1912): 9.41m
4. DEATH IN PARADISE (TUE 2100): 8.45m
5. EASTENDERS (TUE 1929): 8.3m
6. EMMERDALE (THU 1902): 7.75m
7. DCI BANKS (MON 2101): 7.1m
8. TOP GEAR (SUN 2000): 6.97m
9. COUNTRYFILE (SUN 1903): 6.74m
10. BIRDS OF A FEATHER (THU 2032): 6.72m

Soap Officials for the week:

Monday 3rd February

Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.53m [+600k] (9.75m)
Coronation Street (20:30) - 9.26m [+800k] (9.49m)
EastEnders - 8.11m [+990k]
Emmerdale - 7.66m [+450k] (7.83m)

Tuesday 4th February

EastEnders - 8.3m [+810k]
Emmerdale - 7.52m [+770k] (7.66m)

Wednesday 5th February

Coronation Street - 9.4m [+1.04m] (9.83m)
Emmerdale - 7.42m [+550k] (7.68m)

Thursday 6th February

EastEnders - 8.27m [+630k]
Emmerdale (19:00) - 7.75m [+600k] (7.84m)
Emmerdale (20:00) - 7.11m [+790k] (7.27m)

Friday 7th February

Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.01m [+1.26m] (9.17m)
Coronation Street (20:30) - 8.63m [+1.14m] (8.85m)
EastEnders - 7.11m [+430k] inc. Scotland
Emmerdale - 6.95m [+740k] (7.09m)

Avg. for the week:

Coronation Street: 9.17m
EastEnders: 7.95m
Emmerdale: 7.4m

yorkie100

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“What a difference a few weeks makes, back then the obituary of ITV's Sunday nights was being written, people saying they would never have a big success at this time of year ever again as BBC1's line up of Call the Midwife and The Musketeers was just unstoppable and likely to be scheduled for many years to come.

Since then the Musketeers has dropped every week and even Call the Midwife is showing a slight sign of weakness. Shows that such bold predictions are foolish.”

All predictions are foolish these days as it seem all shows are at the mercy of the audiences who seem to change their minds very quickly.
Both sides need to be trying new things all the time while knowing 90% of them are probably not going to make it.

yorkie100

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by dullagj2:
“

Code:

1. CALL THE MIDWIFE (SUN 2004): 10.23m 2. CORONATION STREET (MON 1933): 9.53m 3. THE VOICE UK (SAT 1912): 9.41m 4. DEATH IN PARADISE (TUE 2100): 8.45m 5. EASTENDERS (TUE 1929): 8.3m 6. EMMERDALE (THU 1902): 7.75m 7. DCI BANKS (MON 2101): 7.1m 8. TOP GEAR (SUN 2000): 6.97m 9. COUNTRYFILE (SUN 1903): 6.74m 10. BIRDS OF A FEATHER (THU 2032): 6.72m

Soap Officials for the week:

Monday 3rd February

Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.53m [+600k] (9.75m)
Coronation Street (20:30) - 9.26m [+800k] (9.49m)
EastEnders - 8.11m [+990k]
Emmerdale - 7.66m [+450k] (7.83m)

Tuesday 4th February

EastEnders - 8.3m [+810k]
Emmerdale - 7.52m [+770k] (7.66m)

Wednesday 5th February

Coronation Street - 9.4m [+1.04m] (9.83m)
Emmerdale - 7.42m [+550k] (7.68m)

Thursday 6th February

EastEnders - 8.27m [+630k]
Emmerdale (19:00) - 7.75m [+600k] (7.84m)
Emmerdale (20:00) - 7.11m [+790k] (7.27m)

Friday 7th February

Coronation Street (19:30) - 9.01m [+1.26m] (9.17m)
Coronation Street (20:30) - 8.63m [+1.14m] (8.85m)
EastEnders - 7.11m [+430k] inc. Scotland
Emmerdale - 6.95m [+740k] (7.09m)

Avg. for the week:

Coronation Street: 9.17m
EastEnders: 7.95m
Emmerdale: 7.4m”

Thanks for these always fascinating to see the timeshifts.

yorkie100

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“BBC1 has a problem in that it just can't find a programme that can follow Call The Midwife and keep most of the audience. Ripper Street and now The Musketeers have failed to do this. ITV had a potent combination for years with Wild At Heart following Dancing On Ice.”

In truth its not really that much of a problem to have 6m shows at 9pm on Sundays following CTM. Sure they would like another 10m show to follow it but there are not many examples of 2 shows working like that at all. You have pointed out one such but in recent years both channels have struggled with shows following their big hitters.

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Or not.”

Rising Star is the great unknown. Will be interesting to see what happens.

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“In truth its not really that much of a problem to have 6m shows at 9pm on Sundays following CTM. Sure they would like another 10m show to follow it but there are not many examples of 2 shows working like that at all. You have pointed out one such but in recent years both channels have struggled with shows following their big hitters.”

And yet BBC1 can't find those 6m 9pm shows to follow Midwife. They should have 6m overnights at least not 6m in consolidated ratings. That's not good enough. ITV used to manage it regularly when Heartbeat was flying like Cold Feet.

aberdaberdonian

17-02-2014

So just for some fun, here is this week's Drama Top 15.

This is based on their consolidated average ratings up to and including the 9th Feb.

Are you ready pop pickers? Not 'arf! Then lets begin. In at number 15 it's The Bridge....

Code:

01. 11.83M Sherlock (c)
02. 10.74M Call the Midwife
03. 08.41M Death in Paradise
04. 07.44M The Musketeers
05. 07.38M Silent Witness (c)
06. 07.38M The 7.39 (c)
07. 07.10M DCI Banks
08. 06.48M Inspector George Gently
09. 05.94M Midsomer Murders
10. 05.80M Casualty
11. 05.51M Mr Selfridge
12. 04.90M Holby
13. 04.50M Bletchley Circle (c)
14. 01.59M Hostages
15. 01.48M The Bridge (c)

Andy23

17-02-2014

A comedy top 10 of the year so far would be interesting!

iaindb

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Mt Selfridge now above Musketeers after consolidation.”

And repeat.

yorkie100

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“And yet BBC1 can't find those 6m 9pm shows to follow Midwife. They should have 6m overnights at least not 6m in consolidated ratings. That's not good enough. ITV used to manage it regularly when Heartbeat was flying like Cold Feet.”

But ITV dont manage it now either do they? Its not like it was 5/10 years ago - thats my point.

iaindb

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“A comedy top 10 of the year so far would be interesting!”

And therapeutic as well for someone so wildly biased to ITV, given how dominant BBC1 is in the drama chart (even if we ignore The Musketeers whose place in the chart is skewed by their heavily-hyped premiere).

Oh dear. Mr Selfridge is even trailing tired old Casualty.

ftv

17-02-2014

Wasn't New Tricks getting over 7 million on its first showing at 9 pm ?I believe Hustle was as well. Not to mention Life on Mars.

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“But ITV dont manage it now either do they? Its not like it was 5/10 years ago - thats my point.”

ITV had it with Wild At Heart and Dancing On Ice all the way up to January 2012 when Call The Midwife came along. BBC1 hasn't had a show to follow CTM and keep its audience since CTM started.

Chris1964

17-02-2014

Well Channel 4 v Channel 5 right now!

It might be discussion about relevant issues in todays society.

But we really know its a good old shouting match

Channel 5 to win hands down imo.

Although I suppose their programme has the word "row" in it.

Katie Hopkins is Channel 5's centre forward. No beating her

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by ftv:
“Wasn't New Tricks getting over 7 million on its first showing at 9 pm ?I believe Hustle was as well. Not to mention Life on Mars.”

Yes but they're not on after Midwife, that's BBC1's problem. They don't have a show to put on after Midwife at 9pm that keeps most of the audience. The Musketeers and Ripper Street didn't work there.

cylon6

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Well Channel 4 v Channel 5 right now!

It might be discussion about relevant issues in todays society.

But we really know its a good old shouting match

Channel 5 to win hands down imo.

Although I suppose their programme has the word "row" in it.

Katie Hopkins is Channel 5's centre forward. No beating her ”

Channel 5 night have screwed themselves by making their debate so long and starting at 8pm.

Chris1964

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Channel 5 night have screwed themselves by making their debate so long and starting at 8pm.”

I don't understand why these two shows are clashing-there doesn't seem any point.

GoshBagosh

17-02-2014

So far Channel 4s Benefits Debate is far better then 5s Benefits Row

Dancc

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Channel 5 night have screwed themselves by making their debate so long and starting at 8pm.”

Plus it's far more chaotic than the last one.

Anyone who criticised Wrighty last time got it wrong big time. Ferrari and Diamond are struggling I'm afraid.

NeilVW

17-02-2014

Originally Posted by aberdaberdonian:
“So just for some fun, here is this week's Drama Top 15”

Don't forget the Ratings Thread villain, Waterloo Road...

GoshBagosh

17-02-2014

So i'm hearing channel 5s row is a total shambles. They should pay attention to 4...this is what you call an actual debate

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