Interesting to see how BBC Two 50 years will fare?

Looking ahead, we've got what looks to be a great Easter weekend weather wise. Taking the holiday effect into account too I expect to see some very low numbers across the weekend. I can see BGT taking a huge plunge from last week in that early 7pm slot too (especially as it ended up at 8pm last week). I reckon that'll be a good couple of million down on last week.

Looking at yesterday's soap ratings, perhaps with the shares being very good, maybe people are just choosing to catch up later? The consolidated ratings should be interesting to see if they face a similar drop off from last week.

Regarding EE, BBC could do with iPlayer figures included in the consolidated ratings. That would probably add as much as 1m for some episodes, maybe more? EE's slump isn't as bad as it seems, if it includes iPlayer viewing. It's just that people are wanting to view it in different ways. The overnights only tell half the story, and the consolidated ratings only tell 3/4 of the story imo.

It would take a lower rating than that for a story about Emmerdale to even stand a chance of grabbing a headline of its own. It's either overlooked or deliberately excluded and would need to have sustained the Killer Cameron bounce for it to earn any gravitas. The story of the last thirty years has been EE vs CS and for Emmerdale to even get a look in is rate.

Yep..

Undeniable - 7.23m (6.86m excl. +1)

the iPlayer stats for February have 4 episodes in the top 20...


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Dismal rating for Emmerdale. If it's getting 5.6m in April, what the hell will it be getting in the Summer?! This really is going to be a poor year the soaps. It started badly and things just seem to be getting worse and worse.

On another note. Hollyoaks seems to be doing very well outside the big three. The E4 showing has outrated the Channel 4 showing four episodes in a row now. That is no mean feat. If things ever got that bad for the soap - they could always shift the whole show to E4.

Some of them could get more at ITV or Channel 4. If the BBC don't pay a decent wage there's more likelihood they can lose talent. They have a very difficult tightrope to walk.

"EastEnders" ratings are completely distorted in 2014 from when they were measured from five years ago.


The Digital Spy report into I player showed that I player was pulling in a significant amount of viewers and "EastEnders" was really high in the chart.

It definately adds some perspective to the consolidated figures, and the overnights for "EastEnders" simply do not tell enough about who regularly does and does not watch this programme.

Ultimately I do think its desirable long term to take into account IPlayer ratings but atm the way Iplayer figures are gathered is very inadequate and open to manipulation and abuse too.
BARB is in imperfect but does take into account peaks and troughs rises and falls during the viewing of the episode.You only have to click on a programme for a split second and your registered as watching the whole episode statistics wise -on IPlayer.
Another cavet is it distinguish people whove already watched the episode and clicked on just to watch selected scenes or to indulge in a repeat viewing.Neither of which increase total reach.
I think the tv ratings industry needs massive modernisation and standardisation across the channels especially if folk are relying on catch up figures to top up the officials.

Thankyou, it is very much appreciated. You are a godsend to this thread. Its a shame your not here more often.

A good rating, but a small timeshift. I imagine that is more pleasing to ITV than a lower overnight.

Only 2.1million for the Midsomer repeat. On Wednesdays last year Midsomer repeats were doing about 3.5m. Proof once again of the power of the Coro St. lead-in, MM repeats rated 67% better when given a Coro lead-in compared to a River Monsters inheritence.

Certainly tonights soap figures are going to be interesting. Any predictions?

Matt Barbet returning immediately to 5 News post-Daybreak:

http://about.channel5.com/node/1979

Good for the channel to have such a talent back, albeit only at 6:30 which gets lower viewing figures than the flagship 5PM bulletin. Pity things haven't worked out for him elsewhere though, ITV didn't give him much of a chance in the little watched 6AM hour.

Bruce was on £50,000 a show for Strictly.

Topical one this with users speculating there could be changes afoot only yesterday but The Wright Stuff is being extended yet again as of (Monday) May 5.

New broadcast times 09:15-11:40 weekdays. Incredible how much it's grown considering it was only 55 minutes long when it first launched in 2000. You'd have to say the chances of Home & Away's early afternoon screening returning when the show comes back from its upcoming hiatus look quite slim at this point.

Decent start for Fargo on FX in the US, launches here on Sunday on C4: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-18-49/254793/

Tough drama competition on BBC1 and ITV though may harm its chances.

Emmerdale similar to last night (5.6m) and Corrie will no doubt be under 7m.

I'm not sure why people get so wound up and offended about the idea of a default audience. Maybe that's not the right term. But we surely all accept that different channels would get different audiences for the same programmes. Nearly any given show on Nat Geo would rate better on Channel 5 which would rate better on Channel 4 which would would rate better on Itv which would rate better on BBC1...

And as well as the big number being different, so would the demographic numbers within that, depending on the channel. In fact, Samuel (the BBC's biggest ever fan) loves the old people association because it brings in the numbers (and he's not wrong).


It's the curse of a strong launch - it gives the critics an open goal in week 2. Typically rebounds in week 3 though (or is that X Factor?). Itv need to sort their scheduling out if Greys flops this week.

The only things that people will watch this weekend is BGT and Formula 1, Snooker has no chance in nice weather. I do feel like BGT should be on later but it one of the few programs that gets people flocking indoors. Also BBC2 Birthday Celebrations may get some viewers after dark.

Quite looking forward to giving this a try - Sunday though is just stupid scheduling.

[quote=C14E;72242863]I'm not sure why people get so wound up and offended about the idea of a default audience. Maybe that's not the right term. But we surely all accept that different channels would get different audiences for the same programmes. Nearly any given show on Nat Geo would rate better on Channel 5 which would rate better on Channel 4 which would would rate better on Itv which would rate better on BBC1...

And as well as the big number being different, so would the demographic numbers within that, depending on the channel. In fact, Samuel (the BBC's biggest ever fan) loves the old people association because it brings in the numbers (and he's not wrong).



It's the curse of a strong launch - it gives the critics an open goal in week 2. Typically rebounds in week 3 though (or is that X Factor?). Itv need to sort their scheduling out if Greys flops this week.[/QUOTE]

As The Musketeers found out.

The problem is ITV give all they're big shows an up hill struggle, placing weak or untested shows around it, and when they rate badly they don't move them. That results in less people tuning into the LIVE showing because there is less of a schedule to draw them in, so the record it, or watch the rpt. I imagine BGT will pull in around 9.8m on Saturday with a strong share (50%), and unbelievably given a YBF lead in AGAIN! That a sub 3million lead in and potentially 3.5million lead out. That a weak schedule around it. This is where ITV fails and BBC1 succeeds.

The ideal ITV schedule for BGT is

6pm-7pm The Chase Celeb Special
7pm-8.20pm BGT
8.20pm -9.20pm new drama launch (appeals to all ages)
9.20pm-10pm Through The Keyhole (or similar type post watershed slot)
10pm News

Itv are generally cutting back on drama. So the chances of them airing a drama on Saturdays, something which they have rarely done in the last 10 years, is pretty much nil. Itv cant afford to have too many expensive shows on the same night, thats why when BGT is on, they wont have another big entertainment show after it. Due to the reduction in their programming budget in order to increase profits for their shareholders, they have to resort to cheap gameshows like Amazing Greys to fill the schedules.

Are they any statistics to show that ITV are actually cutting back on drama (or scripted shows in general)?

Everything looks low from yesterday - Emmerdale's share is a slight concern but nothing covered itself in glory.

So you chose to ignore all the posts which proved otherwise the other day? Though I do agree that the chance of a Saturday drama is nil at the minute.