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The Ratings Thread (Part 58)
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dan2008
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“Annoying excuse. Looking at the figures we have I would guess just less than one million on average watch EastEnders on iPlayer, and most of them were probably watching before the slump. So any decline in the BBC One/BBC Three showings is definitely not being made up online, or at least not to the extent some people make out.

Same goes for all of the soaps.”

I player showings have been over 1 million at times. Of course there is also demand and recordings that come into play here for all of TV now. There is so many different options of watching TV. Unless it's a Huge episode (Like a whodunit or LIVE) then the soaps won't pull in big figures on main showing.

On another note it seems DTC is not interested in having a LIVE episode for EastEnders next year and on the point of this storyline running so long he stated it will run alongside other big storylines and won't be the only big storyline running.


Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The quality has improved but they want the ratings up too.”

I reckon by the end of next week the story will be different and we will all be saying how long can the boost last for.
SamuelW
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“New trailer for Happy Valley: http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2014/04/tv-t...-happy-valley/

A great cast and I'm really looking forward to it, hope it lives up to the promise!”

Hmmm, Im now not convinced by it. Things it has going for it:

- crime drama
- set in rural area so nice scenery
- strong cast
- should be quite simple to follow as it is Sally Wainwright writing

But the trailer indicates it will also be:

- gritty
- dark lighting and moody
- violence included
- shaky camera

So rather than a 6m+ overnight which I initially expected, I think it will get around 5.5m. This should still rate well but wont be a standout hit because of those factors going against it.
SamuelW
17-04-2014
Ive got a feeling Amazing Greys is going to rise on Saturday. According to broadcast, its most popular audience was the over 65s with 29pct share of the audience for 65+s. That is well above the slot average of 17pct. These are the most loyal viewers on tv, they are less likely to flick over to other channels compared to 16 to 34 year olds. Hooking in older viewers will give the show a better chance of retaining ratings.

As Michael Grade once said, pull in the older audience and you'll win the ratings. Peter Fincham, current head of Itv, echoed this last week: "We must make more programmes for older viewers because they 'drive viewing figures"

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SamuelW
17-04-2014
Nick Knowles is frontrunner to be revealed as the new host of Strictly Come Dancing: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...nowles-3423750

Knowles is a firm favourite with BBC One viewers, having hosted several successful National Lottery gameshows [Who Dares Wins, Secret Fortunes etc], a hit daytime game show [Perfection] as well as factual primetime favourite [DIY SOS].
JayLee1
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Nick Knowles is frontrunner to be revealed as the new host of Strictly Come Dancing: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...nowles-3423750

Knowles is a firm favourite with BBC One viewers, having hosted several successful National Lottery gameshows [Who Dares Wins, Secret Fortunes etc], a hit daytime game show [Perfection] as well as factual primetime favourite [DIY SOS].”

Please tell me this isn't true. I find Knowles so bland.
lewiep93
17-04-2014
Oh please god no. Not Nick Knowles. He's so wooden, my chest of drawers has more personality than him. They should just stick with Claudia!
SamuelW
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JayLee1:
“Please tell me this isn't true. I find Knowles so bland.”

BBC One viewers do like Nick Knowles though. He is a solid presenter. He doesnt make the shows he hosts all about him. Who would you rather have hosting- Nick Knowles, or someone like David Walliams who tries to make everything about him and could potentially ruin the show and give critics ammunition to rip into the BBC and Strictly? Better to have someone hosting who is gentle and quiet who the BBC One loyalists wont mind. The strength of SCD is the format, the hosting doesnt really matter. Might as well have a low-key presenter from now on rather than a big name who will inevitably be badly compared to Brucey and cause a backlash.
GoshBagosh
17-04-2014
Good rating for How to Get a Council House on 4 last night..
I've been away for awhile...
New Worlds has tanked badley... but isn't that supposedly a sequel of The Devils Whore?
If I remember correctly, that did pretty badley too...so I don't know why it got a sequel.

This is my first night watching tv in a few weeks...
Posh Pawn was pretty good... how is it rating? I'm gussing not far either side of the Million mark?

15,000 kids and Counting is not what I thought it would be, lol....but...I really hope it is rating well.
JFoster1
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“BBC One viewers do like Nick Knowles though. He is a solid presenter. He doesnt make the shows he hosts all about him. Who would you rather have hosting- Nick Knowles, or someone like David Walliams who tries to make everything about him and could potentially ruin the show and give critics ammunition to rip into the BBC and Strictly? Better to have someone hosting who is gentle and quiet who the BBC One loyalists wont mind. The strength of SCD is the format, the hosting doesnt really matter. Might as well have a low-key presenter from now on rather than a big name who will inevitably be badly compared to Brucey and cause a backlash.”

Any presenter that isn't Claudia will inevitably be compared to Bruce, and if a presenter is coming across bland (as Nick could), then there will definitely be unfavourable comparisons. Claudia is a no brainer, the safest choice (against a potentially rejuvenated and stronger X Factor), and the one that provides the most consistency- remember audiences of such shows hate change. I don't see why they are even thinking of looking elsewhere.
hyperstarsponge
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Nick Knowles is frontrunner to be revealed as the new host of Strictly Come Dancing: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/s...nowles-3423750

Knowles is a firm favourite with BBC One viewers, having hosted several successful National Lottery gameshows [Who Dares Wins, Secret Fortunes etc], a hit daytime game show [Perfection] as well as factual primetime favourite [DIY SOS].”

Nick is fine on things like lottery quizzes, He might be getting getting overexposed on SCD through
SamuelW
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JFoster1:
“Any presenter that isn't Claudia will inevitably be compared to Bruce, and if a presenter is coming across bland (as Nick could), then there will definitely be unfavourable comparisons. Claudia is a no brainer, the safest choice (against a potentially rejuvenated and stronger X Factor), and the one that provides the most consistency- remember audiences of such shows hate change. I don't see why they are even thinking of looking elsewhere.”

Traditionally and historically, a show like this is hosted by one male and one female. So the BBC may want to stick with this formula to keep with tradition.
nigel12
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Traditionally and historically, a show like this is hosted by one male and one female. So the BBC may want to stick with this formula to keep with tradition.”

They can't put in place a policy to make females more represented in panel shows and then miss the best opportunity they will ever have to break with tradition and give their highest rated show to its two most obvious presenters.

There is no reason they need a male/female hosting.
yorkie100
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“Hmmm, Im now not convinced by it. Things it has going for it:

- crime drama
- set in rural area so nice scenery
- strong cast
- should be quite simple to follow as it is Sally Wainwright writing

But the trailer indicates it will also be:

- gritty
- dark lighting and moody
- violence included
- shaky camera

So rather than a 6m+ overnight which I initially expected, I think it will get around 5.5m. This should still rate well but wont be a standout hit because of those factors going against it.”

So its going to be more Scott and Bailey than Last Tango which was always likely.
The only dark lighting I saw was when it was nightime.
Looks good actually.
yorkie100
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JayLee1:
“Please tell me this isn't true. I find Knowles so bland.”

Is he any more bland than the guy who presents ITVs no1 singing show?
dan2008
17-04-2014
Biggest Ever EastEnders promotion begins tomorrow (as i stated some weeks back)

THE SOLUTION

To do this we created a “big bang” TV and poster campaign, taking over BBC channels and outdoor sites across London immediately after Lucy is killed on Friday 18th April, so that everyone in the country would know to tune in to see the aftermath on Monday 21st April.

Clever, contemporary, stylish and arresting, the creative approach portrays EastEnders as the high quality drama it really is and has a powerful campaign iconography which will help sear this story into the public’s imagination.

http://www.redbeemedia.com/work/bbc-one-s-eastenders



I like Nick but not sure he would be good on Strictly. I think he is more suited to what he does now. I think Norton is the best bet tbh.
JayLee1
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Is he any more bland than the guy who presents ITVs no1 singing show?”

Are you referring to Dermot O'Leary?! I always got the impression he was considered "cool" by the kids.

I'm sure Nick Knowles would be a perfectly competent presenter but, for me personally, he lacks the spark / charisma that I think Strictly needs. I realise I may be in the minority in this view.
scotch
17-04-2014
I hope they stick with Claudia for Strictly.

Do not want Nick Knowles.
Chris1964
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Oh please god no. Not Nick Knowles. He's so wooden, my chest of drawers has more personality than him. They should just stick with Claudia!”

I have got nothing against Nick Knowles but there must be a reason why ITV have never flung the golden handcuffs anywhere in his direction. Fine for daytime quizzes and DIY SOS but he doesn't fit Strictly, in fact it amazes me the likes of Nick Knowles get anywhere near Saturday primetime let alone one of TV's biggest hosting gigs.

The more the conversation goes on about Strictly, the more I want Tess and Claudia to front it.
Chris1964
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JayLee1:
“Are you referring to Dermot O'Leary?! I always got the impression he was considered "cool" by the kids.

I'm sure Nick Knowles would be a perfectly competent presenter but, for me personally, he lacks the spark / charisma that I think Strictly needs. I realise I may be in the minority in this view.”

I bloomin hope not!
yorkie100
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JayLee1:
“Are you referring to Dermot O'Leary?! I always got the impression he was considered "cool" by the kids.

I'm sure Nick Knowles would be a perfectly competent presenter but, for me personally, he lacks the spark / charisma that I think Strictly needs. I realise I may be in the minority in this view.”

Are you saying you dont think O'Leary is bland and personality free?
JayLee1
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Are you saying you dont think O'Leary is bland and personality free?”

I wouldn't know because I don't watch any of his shows (sorry, not an X Factor fan). However, I remember he presented 1 vs 100 for BBC One a few years ago (National Lottery) and wasn't overly impressed... I assumed he is considered cool and trendy given the X Factor gig.
SamuelW
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by dan2008:
“Biggest Ever EastEnders promotion begins tomorrow (as i stated some weeks back)

THE SOLUTION

To do this we created a “big bang” TV and poster campaign, taking over BBC channels and outdoor sites across London immediately after Lucy is killed on Friday 18th April, so that everyone in the country would know to tune in to see the aftermath on Monday 21st April.

Clever, contemporary, stylish and arresting, the creative approach portrays EastEnders as the high quality drama it really is and has a powerful campaign iconography which will help sear this story into the public’s imagination.

http://www.redbeemedia.com/work/bbc-one-s-eastenders
.”

The BBC are spending a lot of money on this on and off-screen promotional campaign for Eastenders. It is imperitive that Eastenders' ratings increase quite significantly as a result of this extra expenditure. If Eastenders ratings dont rise beyond +0.5m, it will be a failure. Newman wasnt given this kind of promotional budget, DTC has. It needs to pay off and EE ratings need to start increasing year on year.
seansnotmyname@
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by JayLee1:
“I wouldn't know because I don't watch any of his shows (sorry, not an X Factor fan). However, I remember he presented 1 vs 100 for BBC One a few years ago (National Lottery) and wasn't overly impressed... I assumed he is considered cool and trendy given the X Factor gig.”

He was considered quite interesting by some when he presented BBLB, but of course he's become dull presenting X-Factor. Just a corporate drone at the end of his time at BB too, IMHO.
Dancc
17-04-2014
Knowles is solid and I have no problem with him but a pretty uninspired choice if true. The Strictly gig is a big deal, you'd think they'd look a bit further than someone who is already looking thoroughly exposed on BBC One. And it's a big step up for him on what he's doing currently.
yorkie100
17-04-2014
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“He was considered quite interesting by some when he presented BBLB, but of course he's become dull presenting X-Factor. Just a corporate drone at the end of his time at BB too, IMHO.”

Glad someone agrees with me.
I actually dont mind Knowles but not sure he is right for SCD really.
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