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Nick Knowles as Strictly presenter? Can't see it personally but then I have to remember he did have a comic/sarcastic edge on DIY: SOS; he's dry on the quiz shows but that's because nothing else is required.
The share for the soaps are healthy enough. The year-on-year comparisons for all the shows are slightly redundant considering it was a cold April away from the Easter holidays last year so shows should have been higher then. MasterChef is a consistent performer for BBC One but Big Star, Little Star and Law and Order: UK did alright for ITV. Monkey Planet isn't setting the ratings board alight; natural history shows seem to be a bit hit and miss for BBC One now - maybe they should all be aired under a 'Blue Planet' brand. Sometimes brands can hurt (I'm sure 'Don't Cap My Benefits' would have done well if it had been simply titled 'Panorama') but sometimes they can help. BBC Two, Channel 4 and Channel 5 had steady but unspectacular nights but the woeful record of the evening goes to Party House... what a start!
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Biggest Ever EastEnders promotion begins tomorrow (as i stated some weeks back)
THE SOLUTION To do this we created a “big bang” TV and poster campaign, taking over BBC channels and outdoor sites across London immediately after Lucy is killed on Friday 18th April, so that everyone in the country would know to tune in to see the aftermath on Monday 21st April. Clever, contemporary, stylish and arresting, the creative approach portrays EastEnders as the high quality drama it really is and has a powerful campaign iconography which will help sear this story into the public’s imagination. http://www.redbeemedia.com/work/bbc-one-s-eastenders I like Nick but not sure he would be good on Strictly. I think he is more suited to what he does now. I think Norton is the best bet tbh. So we should be expecting somewhere in the region of 25m+ tuning into EastEnders on Monday. If they really are putting this much effort in, then it is sure to boost ratings. If it doesn't rise at least 1millon from this then it will be a waste of time. You keep saying with every big announcement the ratings will rise the following week, they don't, then you make an excuse saying viewers are watching on I player when they have been for years). If I were you I would just let the ratings do what they need too, don't keep predicting they will rise and then make an excuse when they don't. I'm not having a go at you btw
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Glad someone agrees with me.
![]() I actually dont mind Knowles but not sure he is right for SCD really. |
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Hmmm, Im now not convinced by it. Things it has going for it:
- crime drama - set in rural area so nice scenery - strong cast - should be quite simple to follow as it is Sally Wainwright writing But the trailer indicates it will also be: - gritty - dark lighting and moody - violence included - shaky camera So rather than a 6m+ overnight which I initially expected, I think it will get around 5.5m. This should still rate well but wont be a standout hit because of those factors going against it. |
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Well, TBH, Knowles is bland too, but I don't know whether these big shows really need a presenter full of personality. The judges and contestants tend to show that.
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It should be looking at 6m+ in that Tuesday slot. If you can predict Prey to get that against 3million on BBC1, then surely Happy Valley can get 6m against 2.5m in ITV.
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Traditionally and historically, a show like this is hosted by one male and one female. So the BBC may want to stick with this formula to keep with tradition.
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Traditionally and historically, a show like this is hosted by one male and one female. So the BBC may want to stick with this formula to keep with tradition.
If the BBC do pass on Claudia she might be a good bet for Rising Star as she'd have every reason to jump ship given the opportunity. |
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Ant & Dec host Britain's Got Talent. Claudia and Tess may not be a double act but its the same principle. They shouldn't go for a tick box exercise, but what pairing is best for the show, and that pairing is Claudia and Tess.
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I don't watch Strictly, but out of curiosity do many fans of the show actually like Tess 'dead behind the eyes' Daly?
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Nick Knowles would be such a turn off for so many people.
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Absolutely, although I'm not convinced Tess is as good at Anchoring a show like Bruce was
Tess and Claudia would be a zero risk choice for the BBC.
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Notwithstanding this article, Nick Knowles is still freely available at 4/1 at 2 of the 3 bookies who have prices quoted on the OddsChecker site.
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/strict...orsyth-as-host He was 5/1 about an hour ago so has been backed a bit with both Paddy Power and William Hill but nothing like what Ladbrokes appear to have experienced! Claudia is 4/11 and 1/3 at the moment, with Graham Norton available between 2/1 and 4/1. John Barrowman is also quoted at 4/1. |
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Claudia is 4/11 and 1/3 at the moment.
![]() What utterly dreadful odds. Unless somebody knows something we don't, of course. |
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Knowing the BBC they'll have Tess front of house, Norton upstairs...all out disaster
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Knowing the BBC they'll have Tess front of house, Norton upstairs...all out disaster
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Strictly Come Dancing is the most popular entertainment show on television [series average for 2013]. So the BBC know what theyre doing, they wont mess this up.
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It seems a strange tactic to launch a promotional blitz for Eastenders after the main event has occured. Surely casual and infrequent viewers would tune in to see an exciting/important event episode not several days after it. Unfortunately Eastenders has timed the event episode terribly and as such it could well be playing out to a low 6millions overnight rating. Then with Premier League on Monday and Champions League on Tuesday, not much chance of an aftermath boost either. The worst of it is, that thanks to their mucking around with the BBC3 episode over the last few weeks they've lost even more viewers from that showing now.
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The BBC are spending a lot of money on this on and off-screen promotional campaign for Eastenders. It is imperitive that Eastenders' ratings increase quite significantly as a result of this extra expenditure. If Eastenders ratings dont rise beyond +0.5m, it will be a failure. Newman wasnt given this kind of promotional budget, DTC has. It needs to pay off and EE ratings need to start increasing year on year.
It makes sense to readvertise the programme when its been short on promotional attention for some time. You can see Dominic Treadwell Collins wanted more publicity as soon as he stepped in as Executive Producer of the show. The Radio Times cover of new landlords Danny Dyer and Kellie Bright was really down to him and his new take on the direction of impact the programme probably should be making. There must be some money available to improve a product otherwise its very difficult to get noticed in such a noisy busy television world. Very interesting to hear Tom Baker comment on how easy it was for his "Doctor Who" years to be so loved because television was such a bonding medium in the mid seventies. Its much harder for programmes now. But "EastEnders" needed some money spent on it as many episodes that Newman had to produce seemed like they were done with as little actors as they could get away with and probably damaged the storytelling and script pace. |
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E4's Party House: 87k (0.5%)
*jaw hits floor* Abysmal that. ITV's theory that structured reality is all the rage and a sure-fire ratings winner continues to look more than a bit suspect this morning. ![]() |
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Mad Men is good just never popular and now it's less so.
But if half of those 28,000 die hard viewers only subscribed to Sky in order to see Mad Men then it has done it's job - even at £20 a month that would bring in £4m a year. |
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It seems a strange tactic to launch a promotional blitz for Eastenders after the main event has occured. Surely casual and infrequent viewers would tune in to see an exciting/important event episode not several days after it.
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I feel obliged to pass on the sad news that Mark Wright's Party Wright Around the World has been axed by ITV2 after one series. This follows the cancellation of his equally successful shows Hollywood Nights,The Gossip and My Man Can. An ''insider'' said with amazing perception ''He needs to find a show that works for him soon otherwise bosses may look elsewhere.'' A nation mourns.
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Oh please god no. Not Nick Knowles. He's so wooden, my chest of drawers has more personality than him. They should just stick with Claudia!
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It seems a strange tactic to launch a promotional blitz for Eastenders after the main event has occured. Surely casual and infrequent viewers would tune in to see an exciting/important event episode not several days after it. Unfortunately Eastenders has timed the event episode terribly and as such it could well be playing out to a low 6millions povernight rating. Then with Premier League on Monday and Champions League on Tuesday, not much chance of an aftermath boost either. The worst of it is, that thanks to their mucking around with the BBC3 episode over the last few weeks they've lost even more viewers from that showing now.
Remember twin peaks? Laura palmer barely even featured in it! It was all about what happened after her death |
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