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I suspect you'll be in the minority. No idea why the death of Lucy Beale would get viewers who haven't watched for years tuning in. Could be wrong though.
One thing never changes on EE, depressing storylines for the holidays. ![]() |
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Actually tonight they are also away from Walford with a trip to Oxford. Next week there is light hearted and Happy storylines running alongside the murder plot (Minus Thurs which is half hour set in the beales house)
I think EE's problems have been put under the microscope even more because of how the fans have conducted themselves on here in recent years. When ratings fell the excuse was the last EP was no good and the stories were rubbish. So they've got a new boss in, the show has supposedly improved dramatically and yet not only have ratings not lifted, they are even down on where they were before when it was reportedly utterly dire. So how on earth can this be considered in a positive light? |
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I think that my 6.8 prediction may seem rather high now considering the figures for "EastEnders" in the past week. I agree that Mondays episode is likely to see the benefits of the aftermath.
I would have thought old viewers tuning in would be on board by this point in the week if they are coming in to the story. Quote:
I don't think tonight's EastEnders will be up, the BBC Three showing might be high though, Monday's rating is the important one especially if they're doing a big promotional push over the weekend.
Decent for yesterday's episode, the share staying above 33% is a positive sign, hopefully it can do the same tonight. There are signs there's interest in the storyline, no drops week on week despite the other soaps having them and the BBC Three repeat is up. |
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I expect EastEnders to get a big rating on Monday if the promotional push is happening over the weekend. I think 8m - 8.5m is a realistic target considering the big push they are giving it.
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Not convinced. It's still only 7M all together. Am I supposed to be impressed by that number? Because I can assure you I'm not.
Only a couple of years ago it was getting 8M at this time of year. |
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It seems a strange tactic to launch a promotional blitz for Eastenders after the main event has occured. Surely casual and infrequent viewers would tune in to see an exciting/important event episode not several days after it. Unfortunately Eastenders has timed the event episode terribly and as such it could well be playing out to a low 6millions overnight rating. Then with Premier League on Monday and Champions League on Tuesday, not much chance of an aftermath boost either. The worst of it is, that thanks to their mucking around with the BBC3 episode over the last few weeks they've lost even more viewers from that showing now.
For all the criticism about the planned Tina storyline in Corrie at least that involves a character and an actress who does have some profile outside of the show itself, so should be somewhat more interesting to the casual viewer I'd have thought. P.S. I hear from sources (well, someone posted it earlier!) that the saviour of EE has no interest in a live episode for the 30th. There goes it's shot at a much needed ratings boost then. |
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Um we could say the same about Corri though. At least EE seems to be consistent out of all the soaps at the moment. Where as both ED and Corri drop quite a bit.
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Massive repeat figure EE on BBC 3. It's shame it doesn't somehow get included like +1 does, because it wouldn't look anywhere near as weak. Cumulative figures of 7m which isn't bad. Hopefully tonight's episode will be around 7m and a similar figure on BBC 3. BBC 1 share still holding strong at 33% though.
Emmerdale's first showing not bad, but second episode is terrible. That share is ridiculously low! |
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You pitch it well but alas I'll be spending my Easter doing something more constructive. I'm working anyway today, so the last thing I'll want to do when getting home is stick something morbid like that on. NCIS and Gogglebox will do me nicely, thank you.
I think EE's problems have been put under the microscope even more because of how the fans have conducted themselves on here in recent years. When ratings fell the excuse was the last EP was no good and the stories were rubbish. So they've got a new boss in, the show has supposedly improved dramatically and yet not only have ratings not lifted, they are even down on where they were before when it was reportedly utterly dire. So how on earth can this be considered in a positive light? |
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Um we could say the same about Corri though. At least EE seems to be consistent out of all the soaps at the moment. Where as both ED and Corri drop quite a bit.
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Forgot about Gogglebox tonight - love that show! one of my favourite shows of the week - I hope more viewers find it and ratings go up.
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why is digital spy showing GMT rather than BST
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I expect EastEnders to get a big rating on Monday if the promotional push is happening over the weekend. I think 8m - 8.5m is a realistic target considering the big push they are giving it.
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Monday is the main one and across next week. Its the one that is going to be promoted. Up on last Thurs and the share has improved. BBC3 figure gets its highest since March. Tonight the figures will be about the same with monday seeing a nice boost.
But the question is, is Lucy a character people care enough about? |
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But the question is, is Lucy a character people care enough about?
And if they care now, they won't by February of next year which is when they are going to drag this one out to. |
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Um we could say the same about Corri though. At least EE seems to be consistent out of all the soaps at the moment. Where as both ED and Corri drop quite a bit.
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I wonder why Emmerdale is down at 8pm... can't be anything to do with the EastEnders supported MasterChef can it?
Parking Mad did better than I expected it to though so did The Walton considering how It'll Be Alright on the Night did in the slot. Hollyoaks is picking up some very good figures of late on both Channel 4 and E4 while Neighbours is matching some of Channel 5's primetime figures - very much like Pointless and The Chase on their respective networks. |
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EE just lives in it's own bubble and what they fail to recognise is they're killing off a character who means pretty much nothing to the wider public (we've seen this before when they did the same trick with I think Michael Moon, a character most people didn't know existed!) played by an actress nobody cares about - while the suspects are largely off the wider public radar too. And the two characters the wider public are familar with are probably more off-putting than a draw - the Ian/Phil stuff is as tedious as it comes really and been going on for 20 years now. One minute they're trying to kill each other - next they're crying in each others arms. Really EE, really?
For all the criticism about the planned Tina storyline in Corrie at least that involves a character and an actress who does have some profile outside of the show itself, so should be somewhat more interesting to the casual viewer I'd have thought. P.S. I hear from sources (well, someone posted it earlier!) that the saviour of EE has no interest in a live episode for the 30th. There goes it's shot at a much needed ratings boost then. If there was a LIVE ep everyone would be saying they are chasing ratings. They just cant win can they. |
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In a word, no.
And if they care now, they won't by February of next year which is when they are going to drag this one out to. Killing off a character will only work if it's a character we care about or the aftermath is really really good. Unfortunately, Lucy is a character I don't care about although the aftermath seems really interesting, but it's not a story that needs to be dragged until February. You could easily let it climax by Halloween time, which will give a boost going to November/December when EE has dipped a bit in recent years, then let another big story take hold for the 30th. |
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Very unlikely. Unless the weather is bad and BBQs are off.
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A nice boost maybe, but what sort of a boost? EE must be getting at least 35%+ shares for this promotion to be considered a success. But I'm not convinced...EE's figures have been very very stubborn in recent months despite many positive changes and improvements in quality to the show. And while the Lucy plot may not see an initial boost, it's a story that could help the show importantly build some momentum.
But the question is, is Lucy a character people care enough about? |
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Exactly my point.
Killing off a character will only work if it's a character we care about or the aftermath is really really good. Unfortunately, Lucy is a character I don't care about although the aftermath seems really interesting, but it's not a story that needs to be dragged until February. You could easily let it climax by Halloween time, which will give a boost going to November/December when EE has dipped a bit in recent years, then let another big story take hold for the 30th. |
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But the question is, is Lucy a character people care enough about?
They didn't choose Lucy because they thought she was a character many cared about, the opposite infact, despite being born in the show viewers don't really know that much about her, meaning that for all the viewers know she could be hiding things for years. If you think about about other non-soap whodunnits, you never start out knowing anything about the victim, they're normally dead within the first 15 minutes, but by the end you know pretty much everthing, that is what I think they're going for here. I honestly don't think we can judge the success of the storyline, or DTC himself, until February next year. It isn't a storyline to generate one week of big ratings, it's to build momentum and put the show back on track in the long run. Obviously people will continue to criticise/praise each individual rating but it's the big picture that matters most to BBC. |
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Its to run alongside other massive storylines and will not be the main focus all the way through.
And look at the whodunnits which have the greatest impact on EE - Who Shot Phil? and Who Killed Archie? all lasted about a month and a half roughly-speaking. There is one lesser known one from '91 which lasted until Jan '93 on and off (Eddie Royle's death) but in an era where there were only 2 episodes a week, there was less viewer fatigue when it came to storylines. Quote:
People care about Ian, who'll be the one carrying most of the storyline.
They didn't choose Lucy because they thought she was a character many cared about, the opposite infact, despite being born in the show viewers don't really know that much about her, meaning that for all the viewers know she could be hiding things for years. If you think about about other non-soap whodunnits, you never start out knowing anything about the victim, they're normally dead within the first 15 minutes, but by the end you know pretty much everthing, that is what I think they're going for here. There will be a lot of curiosity about how this pans out because it's not a conventional whodunnit. Continued here: The Ratings Thread (Part 59) |
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