I do have to agree with the SO result tbh (though I don't think Suzanne should have been in the SO anyway - should have been Hayley IMO).

Kyron was strong in his, though it wasn't as technically good as Suzanne, but she did make too many mistakes. If it had just been the mistake at the end of the 1 footed spin I think she would have pulled it off - it was a trickier move than any of Kyron's and they could have overlooked it.

But the fall at the exit of the headbanger, and the mistake in (pretty simple) footwork during the step sequence was just too much.

Plus, maybe it was the camera work, but Music (the overall routine) seemed pretty crap this time around, nowhere as good as I remembered it!

Unless they create a 'journey' storyline with them both in terms of Hayley marrying technique with performance and Beth vice versa to give people a purpose to vote for them alongside Ray.

I'm surprised they didn't make more of Kyran's slip in the Skate Off; it was just the one but I think people would have accepted the excuse.

For the first time in 9 years I don't care who wins. If Suzanne and Matt are out so am I apparently.

Shame. I loved this show and have watched every year. This is the first time I don't want to.

I'm sure I'll be missed Enjoy you guys

Suzanne shouldn't have gone before Sam or Kyran IMO but she did mess up in the skate off and I was gutted for her. I think it's just the case that the other two girls have a bigger fan base.

I would be very surprised if Ray doesn't win with Hayley and Beth joining him in the final.

Agreed.
Once Suzanne made those mistakes she was a gonna. Any other result would have made the judges look stupid. They therefore had to vote for Kyran despite having given her great marks earlier on.

I don't mind Kyran really (wish Sam had been in the skate off again instead), but on a normal week he would not have been up against Suzanne.

The whole thing was a mess up and the plan to eliminate those the judges did not like and ensure the safety of those they did like backfired very badly. And Suzanne (perhaps seen as in more of a 'safe place' on the leader board than Beth or Hayley) went as the result.

I agree that Suzanne was brilliant in her first series (my winner) but for me she hasn't lived up to that this series. I'm not sure if it's because it was a long time ago and she's got older, or because one of her key weeks was the flying one, but she just doesn't seem to have "had it" this time, imo.

As for Beth, words fail me as to what they are watching each week, I'm with you.

I agree that Kyran is overrated and if Suzanne had done a clean skate then he should have gone. Unfortunately Suzanne's rather glaring errors meant that she gave the judges very good reason to choose him over her.

What I find frustrating is that even with his points doubled Kyran's still in the skate off which shows that he just isn't getting the votes - so it's annoying that he's still there and Suzanne isn't.

I would love to see Ray in the skate off...... only because we would get the chance to see him skate again. He is a pleasure to watch.

Obvious only if Ray is top of the votes. Not for who joins him in the last 2. Beth must have been at least second tonight - so one of Ray and Hayley is behind her. They can save Hayley over Kyran (she has no difficulty, so won't make mistakes)and Hayley with Jai Ho, beats Beth in a skate off. But the last 3 and 2 depends on a public vote and Beth may beat Hayley again.

Its all a bit pointless, as the show now has no narrative to explain anyone but Ray winning. Suzanne was the contender. They promoted her to that role twice. They have spelt out several times now why the others are not strong enough, at either performance or skills. Its been distorted from the start by Clare, who can do more than Hayley, not being there, and, Jorgie who might have been this series' Suzanne, going early, but its now a Ray absolute certainty - unless the public vote carries Beth to a win.

I can't agree that Kyran is over-rated, he does technical stuff that Sam couldn't try in a million years, and he is almost twice Ray's age and for that is as good as him....

What makes you think that?


I think you're right there. What I don't get is that because Suzanne made mistakes in her Skate Off performance, they didn't save her. But Matt Lapinskas from last year made mistakes in his Skate Off performance, they saved him.

Can we please get a grip? The whole placement of Beth and Hayley at the bottom was to fire up their vote; not depress it so they would leave. Maybe one of them (Hayley?) was starting to dip slightly suprisingly and they wanted to reinvigorate it? Or maybe they wanted to target Kyran but the only way to do this was fire up Beth and Hayley's fan base (so they didn't switch to Kyran). Going by how reality television shows, including Dancing on Ice, have worked in the past they knew that Beth and Hayley would be safe if it was perceived that they were in danger.

Suzanne was always going to be a risk as she sat in mid table and I think they thought it would give her a vote a boost if she fell into the bottom two and was saved. Unfortunately she made too many mistakes in the Skate Off; too many to be shrugged off.

You could well be right.
But they didn't plan on Suzanne making so many mistakes.
IMO Kyran was the expendable one, not Suzanne.

and the bit we are all ovverlooking..........to boost the calls to make more money for the show!

It's hilarious that Suzanne was (tied) second on the leaderboard this week, and goes home because of a twist. It just goes to show how ridiculous these twists are. You fight hard to put on a great performance and be as high as possible on the leaderboard, only for you to be knocked down because of a twist. Ridiculous.


It was down to the choreography, in my opinion.

The problem is, they cast people at the start of each series, so back in series three, they knew Chris and Suzanne would be the "stars" - they were the chosen ones for that series and was given all the best choreography.

This year, they have to try and cater for every single winner, plus runner ups - and they can't seem to handle that. Half of them have been tossed aside and neglected, including Suzanne (bar her first performance and tonight). Had Suzanne had the same sort of effort Ray and Hayley have had put into them since day one, she wouldn't be out right now, in my opinion, but those bland weeks between her first performance and now have come back to bite her in the arse.

I agree - though arguably Suzanne was treated as the female they were happiest to lose if need be. It could be argued that Beth's vote is too strong for them to pull her in the bottom two but why stir it up further by placing her bottom of the leaderboard? Same with Hayley. For whatever reason they wanted to keep them ahead of Suzanne.

The twist makes all the difference. That result was consistent with Kyran being last in the public vote, and Sam next to last. On 4th in the vote Suzanne could have made the final - although she might have needed a second good skate off routine. On the original scoreboard it would have ben a Sam/Kyran skate off this week on previous weeks votes.

Suzanne's other problem was someone deciding to do a version of Music, with added difficulty, in a week where she's learnt two new routines. Difficulty adds risk.

If Beth stays at least second in the vote it depends who she is beating of Hayley and Ray. Beth in the last two, let alone beating Ray would be a fitting end to this mess.



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Because Beth has to beat Suzanne and Hayley to avoid the skate off from the bottom of the table. We know Kyran had a low vote too or he wouldn't have been in the skate off. We just then have to assume where Sam is - and his appearances in the skate off suggest he isn't top 2 and Ray is unlikely to be near the bottom.

The interesting question, if Beth is top two, is who isn't?

Kyran has a good skate though, and if familiar, it has some difficulty too it. They can't craete a big enough gap in the routins, and they have tied themselves into the false logic of errors being decisive this series. Suzanne adding the standing entry to the headbanger doesn't help either as its a move Jorgie never mastered, no one else can do, and Suzanne has had a busy day.

Nothing made much sense with their marking of Matt L. They praised his skating though his posture was terrible, his tricks were minimal, and they praised soem very mediocre acting as brilliant.

Production seems in Freefall you would think they would realise the twists are having a terrible impact on the show. It should have just been a Required element and let the show end on a graceful note. T&D really are wallpaper this year they have nothing new to offer. Jayne barely give any input and just seems rooted to the spot week on week.

A great Twist would be allowing the Skaters freedom on own routines because its quite clear judged don't have a problem slagging off something they helped create at least it would make more sense. Daft Twists always lead to a Daft conclusion

I would like to see him in SO just to see how he reacts under that type of pressure. I have to admit I was really surprised at how unraveled the normally composed Suzanne became tonight.

Good post, totally agree. Such a shame they can't stop meddling with these stupid manipulative twists.

Sad for Suzanne.

it just makes no sense now because if viewing figures were great for all the twists you could understand it. what happens next week Sam in the skate off again And I wonder if any mistake will be treated as harshly as this week

Tbh he wouldn't have anything to worry about even if he was put in a SO. The judges would never vote him out even if he did every move wrong, took out the cameraman and threw his partner into the audience

Would be a massive hit on YouTube though

Pretty happy Nicky mentioned Chris fountain as in my opinion he was way better than Suzanne throughout his series and I really feel he's missing from this one!

Sam or Ray to win for me!