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Old 17-02-2014, 20:20
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OK Downloading "Linux Mint 16 “Petra” Cinnamon" ISO from the University of Kent mirror as per

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2489

1.1 GB and an hour to download. Presumably I boot up the netbook with this USB in it, hit F10 (IIRC) and see what happens.
As already suggested
You are going to use?
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/univers...easy-as-1-2-3/


the ISO needs burning to a dvd or usb, its not just copy and paste to it.
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Old 17-02-2014, 22:42
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As already suggested
You are going to use?
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/univers...easy-as-1-2-3/


the ISO needs burning to a dvd or usb, its not just copy and paste to it.
Ah yes thanks. On the case.
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Old 17-02-2014, 23:15
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I had already jumped ahead and downloaded a Linux ISO, taking an hour to do it, so I googled for "convert Linux ISO to bootable USB" and found this

http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/

OK so I moved the ISO from the USB onto which I had earlier downloaded it and

used unetbootin-windows-585 to convert the ISO into files on my USB

There is now lots of stuff on my USB. But I don't see an "application" exe file.

The files I see are

MD5SUMS
ubninit
ubnkern
syslinux.cfg
menu.c32

and 8 folders including "boot" and ".disk"

Does that sound like progress?

Insert the USB into my netbook and away I go?
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Old 17-02-2014, 23:37
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Yes. But it says preserve files Ubuntu only.

Not sure if persistence on Universal USB installer works on other distros.

What it means, is that it won't remember any settings when you shutdown.
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Old 18-02-2014, 00:24
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Does this mean that I have installed the Linux on my USB and have to run it from USB every time?

I'd like to run it on the netbook - as per windows.

I'm not too bothered about saving the current XP installation as it is easy to factory reset.
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Old 18-02-2014, 01:06
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Does this mean that I have installed the Linux on my USB and have to run it from USB every time?

I'd like to run it on the netbook - as per windows.

I'm not too bothered about saving the current XP installation as it is easy to factory reset.
nope, there should be a Install icon on the desktop. This will install to hard drive, including bootloader if you wish so you can keep using windows as well.
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Old 18-02-2014, 01:08
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Does this mean that I have installed the Linux on my USB and have to run it from USB every time?

I'd like to run it on the netbook - as per windows.

I'm not too bothered about saving the current XP installation as it is easy to factory reset.
Yes you will be given the option on booting up from the USB, to run the OS from the usb stick or to install. Run from the stick, have a play around, see how you find it. Then if you are happy you can install it. You will get an option to wipe windows, or install it side by side as a dual boot.

How are you getting on?
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Old 18-02-2014, 01:19
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Back to stage 1.

I had inadvertently downloaded linuxmint-16-cinnamon-dvd-64bit.iso - the 64 bit version so I got the message "This kernel requires a x86-64 CPU but only detected a i686 CPU".

So will have another go with a 32 bit download
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Old 18-02-2014, 02:39
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Installing alongside Windows XP .....

Thanks so much ALL of you

I see Firefox is there so I will be able to get Chrome. And as advised above there is Banshee for music and VLC for videos included.- though I don't have a DVD drive so not relevant. gThumb for photos is also there. LibreOffice is also there. PLus PDF support.

OK I will need a PDF writer. I use Primo. Is there a Linux version? I'll check.

Software manager looks useful - looks like Google Play or extensions on Chrome.

Wine to install 'Windows software is there.

Only odd thing so far is that double tapping on the mousepad doesn't work. I have to use the buttons below the pad.

THANKS SO MUCH EVERYBODY
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Old 18-02-2014, 02:59
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Everything seems to be working except for Firefox - so can't get Chrome. Try again tomorrow.
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Old 18-02-2014, 08:49
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Everything seems to be working except for Firefox - so can't get Chrome. Try again tomorrow.
Are you using it wired or wireless?

My old lappy wouldn't work with any version of mint via wireless
But any version of Ubuntu would just find it and work.

At least you have progressed and learned from a few days ago.
Just stick with it.
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Old 18-02-2014, 13:29
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Are you using it wired or wireless?

My old lappy wouldn't work with any version of mint via wireless
But any version of Ubuntu would just find it and work.

At least you have progressed and learned from a few days ago.
Just stick with it.
Wireless. But it asked for my wifi password and it seems to have accepted it. Firefox just didn't launch. Not a question of not connecting.

Anyway the whole thing kept crashing. I suspect a conflict with XP in the partition. And now I can't even factory reset. No big deal as XP is on its last legs anyway. So I'm going to format the hard disk and fresh install Linux.

I thought Mint was an offshoot of Ubuntu.
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Old 18-02-2014, 14:51
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Wireless. But it asked for my wifi password and it seems to have accepted it. Firefox just didn't launch. Not a question of not connecting.

Anyway the whole thing kept crashing. I suspect a conflict with XP in the partition. And now I can't even factory reset. No big deal as XP is on its last legs anyway. So I'm going to format the hard disk and fresh install Linux.

I thought Mint was an offshoot of Ubuntu.
You really need to do it hard wired before trying wireless.
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Old 18-02-2014, 17:18
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OK somehow I have got it working again and Chrome has been installed and have just tested youtube in it.

First impression was that it took longer than I expected to boot up. I was expecting something much quicker than XP.

Otherwise it looks very good.

Can I now remove XP without reinstalling Linux Mint?

Now looking for Linux version of Dropbox and Google Drive. Also need a PDF writer.

I feel like I made it across the wall without the Microsoft guards spotting me. A few trip-ups on the barbed wire in no man's land though ...
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Old 18-02-2014, 18:07
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OK somehow I have got it working again and Chrome has been installed and have just tested youtube in it.

First impression was that it took longer than I expected to boot up. I was expecting something much quicker than XP.

Otherwise it looks very good.

Can I now remove XP without reinstalling Linux Mint?

Now looking for Linux version of Dropbox and Google Drive. Also need a PDF writer.

I feel like I made it across the wall without the Microsoft guards spotting me. A few trip-ups on the barbed wire in no man's land though ...
That depends on how you partitioned it really (or how it partitioned itself when installing).
It's likely to have reduced the size of your XP partition and made a partition to the right of it for Mint.

You could plug your live USB stick back in and boot from it again, then run an app called GParted from it. That will show you the layout of your partitions, and allow you to edit them.

Although it would be easy to delete the XP partition, it wouldn't be straightforward to extend the Mint partition down into it. So it might be better to delete both partitions and make one large one, then reinstall Mint to that, before you've gone too far in customizing Mint.

If however XP is to the right of Mint, then that's a different matter, and you could easily extend Mint into the XP partition.

Personally I'd be inclined to just leave XP on there in case you need any Windows stuff in future, unless the space you've given Linux is unfeasibly small?
You can always repartition when you come to install Mint 17.
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Old 18-02-2014, 18:53
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Great thanks.

The odd thing is there is no sign of a new partition. Three must be one for Linux and XP I imagine and as you say.

Seem to be only two directories "devices" as before.

OK I'll leave things as they are until Mint 17. Maybe I'll get a SSD then.
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Old 18-02-2014, 20:17
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Nice one well done. Welcome to Linux.
I would just leave it as it is.
Its working.
Just have a play around with it.
But give it longer than a week before making any judgments.
It'd not windows. You will have to take sometime with a open mind and play with it.

Now you can load Linux OS you can always enter the world of distro hopping.
But beware once you do there's no going back.
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Old 18-02-2014, 20:56
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Installing alongside Windows XP .....

Thanks so much ALL of you

I see Firefox is there so I will be able to get Chrome. And as advised above there is Banshee for music and VLC for videos included.- though I don't have a DVD drive so not relevant. gThumb for photos is also there. LibreOffice is also there. PLus PDF support.

OK I will need a PDF writer. I use Primo. Is there a Linux version? I'll check.

Software manager looks useful - looks like Google Play or extensions on Chrome.

Wine to install 'Windows software is there.

Only odd thing so far is that double tapping on the mousepad doesn't work. I have to use the buttons below the pad.

THANKS SO MUCH EVERYBODY
I think you have to install synaptic pointing device for the tapping to work or if you go into settings in mint you might find a setting for it there.
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Old 18-02-2014, 22:18
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OK I am trying to install Dropbox and it is asking which of

Ubuntu (.deb)
Fedora (.rpm)
Debian (.deb)
Compile from source

Isn't Linux Mint Cinnamon Ubuntu? Or Debian?

EDIT

It is Ubuntu I found

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8csONRW3h8
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Old 18-02-2014, 22:47
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There is a lot of stuff in this thread that is finally making sense ... Thanks again.

EDIT

Dropbox now sorted.
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Old 18-02-2014, 23:22
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I think you have to install synaptic pointing device for the tapping to work or if you go into settings in mint you might find a setting for it there.
Sorted via settings. Thanks.
Taken the opportunity to go through all the settings and tinker.
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Old 19-02-2014, 01:10
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Great thanks.

The odd thing is there is no sign of a new partition. Three must be one for Linux and XP I imagine and as you say.

Seem to be only two directories "devices" as before.

OK I'll leave things as they are until Mint 17. Maybe I'll get a SSD then.
If it hasn't made a new partition, it may be that the netbook had a recovery partition on it that Mint has used?

Once you get more confident you'll be able to set the partitions up as you prefer, in a custom install, and maybe make a separate Home partition for your files and settings, that doesn't get changed when you install a new version.
But that'll come. I've been using Linux alongside Windows for 6 or 7 years, and I'm still learning.
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Old 19-02-2014, 03:04
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If it hasn't made a new partition, it may be that the netbook had a recovery partition on it that Mint has used?

Once you get more confident you'll be able to set the partitions up as you prefer, in a custom install, and maybe make a separate Home partition for your files and settings, that doesn't get changed when you install a new version.
But that'll come. I've been using Linux alongside Windows for 6 or 7 years, and I'm still learning.
On Windows machines I always set up a new partition for files, music etc. because I like formatting the OS hard disk and reinstalling every six months or so.

I'll check to see where the Linux has been installed.

I've been meaning to install Linux for ages. This XP support termination should give Linux a big boost.
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Old 24-02-2014, 00:40
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OK mystery now.

I decided to delete windows and have Linux Mint only so I reinstalled Linux Mint 16 Cinnamon.

Works fine. Windows is not there.

Except I have a missing directory of 80 GB.

In "Computer" I see

Generic-Multi-Card [that must be an SD card reader]

File System 76.5GB

WDC WD800BEVS-22RST0 [googling I find that is the name of a disk drive - Western Dgital]

Double clicking on WDC WD800BEVS-22RST0 I get "unable to mount location: can't mount file".
Right clicking and clicking "mount" I get the same message.
Right clicking and clicking "properties" I get Type: Unknown (application / octet-stream)
size: unknown
accessed: unknown

So it looks like it is a directory that needs to be formatted.

How do I format it within Linux?

Is DOS hidden somewhere so I can Format it?

In "Administration / Disk Usage Analyser" I see 4.3GB / 76.5GB

I could have sworn I had 150GB - but I could be confused.

EDIT

Maybe it was only 80GB in the Hard Disk.

http://www.umpcportal.com/products/M...a%20Mini/E1210

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/70...netbook-review
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Old 24-02-2014, 01:32
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Yes that hard drive is a Western digital 80GB one. I don't think you've got any lost space. The File System seems to be filling it.

Linux file managers can be a bit confusing, because they don't give partitions names or letters, and just list them by size. Also they will list the physical drive as well as the partitions on it.

Not sure why you can't mount the drive, but I wouldn't worry too much about it. It'll be something to do with permissions or something. As long as you can access all the files in the file system.

If you open the Terminal (Menu>Accessories) and type
Code:
sudo fdisk -l
then enter your password and press Enter.
That will give you info about the size of disks and partitions on your machine.
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