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Sorry false alarm.
I have now created three partitions - swap file, root directory, and data and am reinstalling Linux Mint 16 Cinnamon .. |
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I replaced XP and went completely Linux (Mint Debian now) about 10 years ago. It does everything I need both personally and to run a small business.
To get information about your system go to the dark side, open a terminal and input Code:
inxi -F You will get output like this including drives and partitions: Code:
System: Host: lmde Kernel: 3.2.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 2.0.14 Distro: LinuxMint 1 debian
Machine: Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: 770-C45 (MS-7599) version: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends version: V1.4 date: 09/18/2009
CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm)
Clock Speeds: 1: 3000.00 MHz 2: 3000.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250] X.Org: 1.14.3 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1680x1050@59.9hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 331.38
Audio: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 40:61:86:2e:10:a8
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (26.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 200G used: 124G (65%) fs: ext4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 52C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 158 Uptime: 18:09 Memory: 2295.0/3965.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.14
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I replaced XP and went completely Linux (Mint Debian now) about 10 years ago. It does everything I need both personally and to run a small business.
To get information about your system go to the dark side, open a terminal and input Code:
inxi -F You will get output like this including drives and partitions: Code:
System: Host: lmde Kernel: 3.2.0-3-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Cinnamon 2.0.14 Distro: LinuxMint 1 debian
Machine: Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: 770-C45 (MS-7599) version: 1.0 Bios: American Megatrends version: V1.4 date: 09/18/2009
CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm)
Clock Speeds: 1: 3000.00 MHz 2: 3000.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA G92 [GeForce GTS 250] X.Org: 1.14.3 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1680x1050@59.9hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTS 250/PCIe/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 331.38
Audio: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 40:61:86:2e:10:a8
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (26.5% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID: / size: 200G used: 124G (65%) fs: ext4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 52C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info: Processes: 158 Uptime: 18:09 Memory: 2295.0/3965.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.14
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If you open the Terminal (Menu>Accessories) and type Code:
sudo fdisk -l That will give you info about the size of disks and partitions on your machine. Ah great stuff. I found that after partitioning one of the drives seemed to be missing. Just now re-installing I see all the drives are there. Will try terminal now. Takes me back to my Fortran days ... EDIT it is sudo fdisk -l [ not -1 s I first typed in ]Also looked at inxi -F I wanted to install something like Belarc but these commands should do the job. |
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Thanks a lot
Ah great stuff. I found that after partitioning one of the drives seemed to be missing. Just now re-installing I see all the drives are there. Will try terminal now. Takes me back to my Fortran days ... EDIT it is sudo fdisk -l [ not -1 s I first typed in ]Also looked at inxi -F I wanted to install something like Belarc but these commands should do the job. I should have made that clear, but I thought you'd probably just copy and paste the code anyway. The 'sudo' bit means "do as superuser", or administrator in Windows talk. That's why it asks for the password. |
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I have been trying to either install Linux or run from a disc on my old DELL XP machine. However all seems to be going well ~ running through the various set up screens untill it fails with the message the Linux has experienced an internal error.
Th strange thing is that this has happened with different linux builds and flavours. Is it possible that there is something in the DELL BIOS that prevents a second OS being run or installed? |
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I have been trying to either install Linux or run from a disc on my old DELL XP machine. However all seems to be going well ~ running through the various set up screens untill it fails with the message the Linux has experienced an internal error.
Th strange thing is that this has happened with different linux builds and flavours. Is it possible that there is something in the DELL BIOS that prevents a second OS being run or installed? If you give us an idea of the specs of the Dell, especially the graphics card, we might get a clue. I've got an old Dell from 2002 that I've successfully put various versions of Linux on. It's got a slightly upgraded processor (P4 Northwood 2.6 GHz) and an ATI 8500 128MB graphics card but only 512MB RAM. It can't cope with the latest desktops (Unity, Cinnamon, KDE, Gnome Shell) but works OK with lightweight versions like LXDE or Openbox (XFCE at a pinch). There are some things that just won't install though. LXLE worked well as a live DVD, but the installer always crashed. Presently it's running Ubuntu 12.04 as an LXDE session, but I've also got Crunchbang Linux on it, and I sometimes use Puppy Linux on live CD. I'm sure you could find something that would install.
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Yeah it's 'l' as in list.
I should have made that clear, but I thought you'd probably just copy and paste the code anyway. The 'sudo' bit means "do as superuser", or administrator in Windows talk. That's why it asks for the password. |
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you may be looking at the lighter usage xfce or lxde versions for youre hardware. Is Xfce butch enough to run Google Chrome? Anything else I'll be missing out on? It would be nice to get something as fast as a Chrome Book. |
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XFCE is kinda in the middle really, in terms of resources required.
It's lighter weight than the ones I mentioned, but you don't really miss out on anything. Certainly Chrome (or Chromium) will work on it (think Chrome works on just about anything?). But you can also run a compositor like compiz, for transparency and animation effects. Although that will slow down a machine with lower spec right enough. |
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As an alternative to completely reinstalling the XFCE version of Mint 16, you could install XFCE as a session in your current installation.
It would be a vanilla version of XFCE rather than the mintified version in the full install, but it would show you if you liked it, and whether it suited your machine. Either install the xfce4 metapackage from the Software Manager (or Synaptic Package Manager) or at a terminal type Code:
sudo apt-get install xfce4 You can then switch between XFCE and Cinnamon at each login. |
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As an alternative to completely reinstalling the XFCE version of Mint 16, you could install XFCE as a session in your current installation.
It would be a vanilla version of XFCE rather than the mintified version in the full install, but it would show you if you liked it, and whether it suited your machine. Either install the xfce4 metapackage from the Software Manager (or Synaptic Package Manager) or at a terminal type Code:
sudo apt-get install xfce4 You can then switch between XFCE and Cinnamon at each login. Schools should be encouraged to use Linux Mint as there is a lot more learning about computing than in Windows. The terminal also encourages computing thought. |
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Another good XP replacement would be LXLE
http://lxle.net/ Easy to use and light on RAM usage.Includes a very comprehensive range of software such as used for internet browsing, office software and playing of various media. http://youtu.be/99zomqqk1tM |
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Thanks and useful to know but I installed XFCE this morning before reading this post and no regrets. XFCE seems quite a bit faster than Cinnamon and look and feel (just a bit) more familiar somehow. But no regrets having seen and installed Cinnamon first.
Schools should be encouraged to use Linux Mint as there is a lot more learning about computing than in Windows. The terminal also encourages computing thought. Not sure if many schools have taken it up as yet? |
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![]() You gone from cinnamon to xfce and now looking at llxde. There's also gnome and KDE to keep you busy yet. Great to read you're getting i on so well with Linux. As you've found out its not that scary
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For XP users who want to try Linux, but really want to stick to a classic Windows look and feel, you could try Q4 OS.
![]() http://www.q4os.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TF-c3CrX2A The OS is based on Debian, and the desktop environment is a fork of KDE. |
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I want my life back ... there's 73 pages of the "Linux Users general chat thread." to go through ...
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Having got used to Linux Mint 16 XFCE how does this compare with a Chromebook?
Why are Chromebooks (supposedly) only operational online? Are they much faster? And if so is there a distro? |
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chromebooks only work online because you don't install apps locally. There is a very limited ability to run a few apps local and they will sync when you get back online.
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For XP users who want to try Linux, but really want to stick to a classic Windows look and feel, you could try Q4 OS.
![]() http://www.q4os.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TF-c3CrX2A The OS is based on Debian, and the desktop environment is a fork of KDE. |
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Having got used to Linux Mint 16 XFCE how does this compare with a Chromebook?
Why are Chromebooks (supposedly) only operational online? Are they much faster? And if so is there a distro? |
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Chromebook tale of woe -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...sity-work.html as the computer world gets more diverse, compatibility becomes a problem. A bit off topic, but interesting. |
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Chromebook tale of woe -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...sity-work.html as the computer world gets more diverse, compatibility becomes a problem. A bit off topic, but interesting. |
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I think I'll stick with XFCE for now. Very impressed.
Linux Mint 16 XFCE Full Review http://youtu.be/GItVTVLyY24 |
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Having got used to Linux Mint 16 XFCE how does this compare with a Chromebook?
Why are Chromebooks (supposedly) only operational online? Are they much faster? And if so is there a distro? chromebooks are produced to use google services. Linux, you are more free, you don't have to be online and you got a lot more software to choose from. which one you go for depends on what you want to do. |
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ZorinOS has also been mentioned a number of times on other forums since the desktop can be changed to resemble assorted versions of Windows: http://zorin-os.com/
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