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Worst arc of nu who?
grazemytvaddict
17-02-2014
What arcs have you hated in nu who?
EE Fan 1990
17-02-2014
I still want to know who the voice who said silence will fall was
did I miss the explanation???

Arkwise I think they were all great
Rose as Bad Wolf
series 2 - what was it???
3 - Harold Saxon
4 - the missing planets - so subtle I didn't notice it till quite late on
5 - the crack in the wall
6 - River songs reveal and The doctors Death
7 - who is clara- I didn't like the separation of 7 because although it had to be done because of the changing of campanions, it didn't feel that the first half had an arc as such then suddenly who is clara felt like it was shoved down our throats a bit
sw2963
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by EE Fan 1990:
“I still want to know who the voice who said silence will fall was
did I miss the explanation???

Arkwise I think they were all great
Rose as Bad Wolf
series 2 - what was it???
3 - Harold Saxon
4 - the missing planets - so subtle I didn't notice it till quite late on
5 - the crack in the wall
6 - River songs reveal and The doctors Death
7 - who is clara- I didn't like the separation of 7 because although it had to be done because of the changing of campanions, it didn't feel that the first half had an arc as such then suddenly who is clara felt like it was shoved down our throats a bit”

Series 2 was Torchwood.
Thamwet
17-02-2014
Series 6. I just think that the whole basis was flawed. We knew that the Doctor wasn't going actually going to die right from the offset- as if they'd do that! It was just a case of wondering how he'd avoid it, rather than biting our nails and wondering IF he was going to avoid it.

Furthermore, it was messy. Us fans understood it (eventually), but the casual viewer was left behind at the starting line. My family are casual viewers, and they were completely disillusioned. Casual viewers usually don't re-watch episodes, or remember little details.
joe_000
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by Thamwet:
“Series 6. I just think that the whole basis was flawed. We knew that the Doctor wasn't going actually going to die right from the offset- as if they'd do that! It was just a case of wondering how he'd avoid it, rather than biting our nails and wondering IF he was going to avoid it.

Furthermore, it was messy. Us fans understood it (eventually), but the casual viewer was left behind at the starting line. My family are casual viewers, and they were completely disillusioned. Casual viewers usually don't re-watch episodes, or remember little details.”

I agree. I've watched the show for years and stuck with it but even I found myself getting really fed up with all the twists and turns and frankly found myself thinking I couldn't care less about ruddy River Song and who she was and the silence whoever they were etc etc. many of my family and a lot of my friends that I encouraged to watch just thought... What the hell is this .. And switched off.
Mrfipp
18-02-2014
Bad Wolf. It really doesn't mean anything, the actual phrase "Bad Wolf". It sounds cool and mysterious, but there's really no context on why it's called that. It might as well have been Rubbery Penguin.

It's not even a really important phrase. While I'm sure the internet was ablaze with theories at the time, until "Boomtown" there wasn't any evidence the characters noticed it, and when it is, it's just demised with a hand wave. Until the last few minutes of the series, it has no real importance on anything. You can watch all of Series 1, edit out Bad Wolf, and nothing would change.

The most disappointing thing about it though, it doesn't have any actual affect on Rose's character. When she sees it in "The Parting of Ways", it's treated like she's had some sort of revelation, but there is no actual revelation. Rose never doubted she would get back to the Doctor, she knew it as a fact that she would do what she could, she just didn't know how. Seeing "Bad Wolf" doesn't really change anything for her. It didn't even tell her that opening up the TARDIS would help.

If Rose had given up, if she had lost faith in herself, that would have been better. It would have been great to see her being built up from such a low, but since she already starts out on such a high, there's nowhere for her to really go.
johnnysaucepn
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by Thamwet:
“Series 6. I just think that the whole basis was flawed. We knew that the Doctor wasn't going actually going to die right from the offset- as if they'd do that! It was just a case of wondering how he'd avoid it, rather than biting our nails and wondering IF he was going to avoid it.”

I'm not really seeing how that's a flaw, I'm afraid. Going into any Doctor Who story, we know the Doctor's not going to die, no matter how tight the scrape he gets into. And generally, we can be pretty sure his companion isn't going to die either.

You always know that the hero's going to win, and the detective's going to unmask the murderer, and the underdog sports team is going to learn a valuable lesson about teamwork. The Doctor's death is an escapology act - it's no less intriguing just because you know he's going to survive.
johnnysaucepn
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by Mrfipp:
“Bad Wolf. It really doesn't mean anything, the actual phrase "Bad Wolf". It sounds cool and mysterious, but there's really no context on why it's called that. It might as well have been Rubbery Penguin.”

Yeah, I was also disappointed that it was arbitrary. I get that it had to be distinctive and noticable, but so generic it could be fitted in anywhere and not contain anything that could either allude to Rose or the Daleks, but I thought there should be some effort to try to thematically tie it in at the end of the story.

I liked the idea, it was fascinating to see these little nods each week hinting at something big without requiring you to notice it, but I still wouldn't really consider it an arc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motif_(narrative)
Mulett
18-02-2014
The whole Silence/death of the Doctor/exploding TARDIS thing.

It mostly made sense but I found I didn't really care and just found it all really annoying because I couldn't concentrate on the individual stories.
lilirose
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by joe_000:
“I agree. I've watched the show for years and stuck with it but even I found myself getting really fed up with all the twists and turns and frankly found myself thinking I couldn't care less about ruddy River Song and who she was and the silence whoever they were etc etc.”

Originally Posted by Mulett:
“The whole Silence/death of the Doctor/exploding TARDIS thing.

It mostly made sense but I found I didn't really care and just found it all really annoying.”

Agree. I agree and add to that the River Song. Beyond the library episode didn't care much about River Song's arc or who she was.
doctor blue box
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“The whole Silence/death of the Doctor/exploding TARDIS thing.

It mostly made sense but I found I didn't really care and just found it all really annoying because I couldn't concentrate on the individual stories.”

I would say this also, but not because the effect on individual stories, just the fact that each of these arc's were a build up for nothing and as such, made me feel like i'd been conned by getting excited by the build up. Each of these arc's were established and then seemingly forgotten about, with moffat lover's telling us each time that for some reason, it didn't matter if we found out the answer's to them (why?!), then comes time of the doctor and each of these arc's that had been left dangling were finally explained, but in such a way as each was quickly glossed over with a few mumbled lines, which was a total let down after all the hype of building each of these stories up. Moffat seemed to hint throughout 5-7 that he had a grand master plan and that it would all come together at the end, when in reality, if felt like he'd been saying that to stall because he didn't know how he was going to resolve all the dangling thread's, then realising he was on the last episode of matt, tried to sort it all out by putting in as many rushed explanation's as possible.
GiarcYekrub
18-02-2014
Bad Wolf(which wasn't an arc, just nonsense words included)
Torchwood(see Bad wolf)
The Master as Prime Minister(I hated Simms Master)

The rest I've rather enjoyed
Airborae
18-02-2014
The Season 6 arc - how will the Doctor survive his death.

If it had begun the second half of the season, it would have been better, but was left for far too long and by the end I couldn't care less. The Wedding of River Song was one of the worst episodes I've seen of NuWho. The convoluted endings were not well written and quite frankly not very convincing. The so-called marriage of Doctor and River simply cannot be taken seriously. What on earth was Steven Moffat doing?

Rant over.
Capaldi_Capaldi
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by EE Fan 1990:
“I still want to know who the voice who said silence will fall was
did I miss the explanation???

Arkwise I think they were all great
Rose as Bad Wolf
series 2 - what was it???
3 - Harold Saxon
4 - the missing planets - so subtle I didn't notice it till quite late on
5 - the crack in the wall
6 - River songs reveal and The doctors Death
7 - who is clara- I didn't like the separation of 7 because although it had to be done because of the changing of campanions, it didn't feel that the first half had an arc as such then suddenly who is clara felt like it was shoved down our throats a bit”

Series 4 was Rose Tyler wasn't it
Pull2Open
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
“Series 4 was Rose Tyler wasn't it”

No, it was about the darkness and the stars going out, the planets were going missing throughout time and the darkness was the detonation of the reality bomb.
GiarcYekrub
19-02-2014
I have to counter the Season 6 Negativity, The Arc is only advanced in Premiers,Two-Parters and Finales, besides the plot doesn't drag each episode answers the most pertinent questions and introduces new ones look at it:
The Impossible Astronaut (Introduces the death concept)
Day Of The Moon (Introduces Amy's pregnancy)
The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People (Amy goes into labour, introduces her kidnap)
A Good Man Goes To War (Rescue Amy, Reveal River, intro baby missing)
Lets Kill Hitler (reveal mels location, reminder of the death concept)
The Wedding of River song (conclusion of the Doctors Death)

Which to me strikes a great balance between the one off episodes and the ones with lasting impact, while mirroring the Buffy focused season arc which gives each season an Identity.
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