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conchie
17-02-2014
@Suzanneshaw
So many of you are asking who's going to win. My thoughts if it was fair…RAY 1st SAM 2nd, Beth 3rd, Kyran 4th…HAYLEY CAN'T SKATE.


Awkward tour coming up I imagine !!! Yikes !!
WhyHelloWorld
17-02-2014
Such a stupid woman. Clearly annoyed she was first champion out. Public have spoken. Lost a lot of respect for her after making a comment like that.
conchie
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Such a stupid woman. Clearly annoyed she was first champion out. Public have spoken. Lost a lot of respect for her after making a comment like that.”

Ohh Matt's just come to the rescue. Says Suzanne has been asleep for hours…. he has no idea what's going on… investigation starts.

Have to say its hugely out of character…. so either she has been asleep for hours…. or Matt has just wrestled the wine bottle off her.

Time will tell.
WhyHelloWorld
17-02-2014
Originally Posted by conchie:
“Ohh Matt's just come to the rescue. Says Suzanne has been asleep for hours…. he has no idea what's going on… investigation starts.

Have to say its hugely out of character…. so either she has been asleep for hours…. or Matt has just wrestled the wine bottle off her.

Time will tell.”

Look like a cover up to me. Been sleeping for hours? She tweeted it before 10pm for goodness sake. So she would of gone to sleep at around 7 ish then.

The tweet will get removed and be blamed on a 'hack' as it always is when a celebrity makes a controversial remark that doesn't turn out well for them!
thenetworkbabe
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Such a stupid woman. Clearly annoyed she was first champion out. Public have spoken. Lost a lot of respect for her after making a comment like that.”

the public didn't speak. The judges made whoever they wanted to win the team competition the winners. They then altered the leaderboard and one of the two people with the lowest overall score almost certainly escaped the skate off. The result doesn't necessarly follow the public vote, or the skills displayed - its decided by whoever decided who should win the team competition.
MARTYM8
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“the public didn't speak. The judges made whoever they wanted to win the team competition the winners. They then altered the leaderboard and one of the two people with the lowest overall score almost certainly escaped the skate off. The result doesn't necessarly follow the public vote, or the skills displayed - its decided by whoever decided who should win the team competition.”

Exactly the public just think they decide who stays or goes. In the end the judges do until the final.

And this silly team challenge is just more manipulation!
johartuk
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“the public didn't speak. The judges made whoever they wanted to win the team competition the winners. They then altered the leaderboard and one of the two people with the lowest overall score almost certainly escaped the skate off. The result doesn't necessarly follow the public vote, or the skills displayed - its decided by whoever decided who should win the team competition.”

One of the winning group was in the skate-off, so being in the winning group didn't help him.

As for Suzanne's comments, she needs to wind her head in, or she could find it coming back to bite her on the bum.
Leicester_Hunk
18-02-2014
It's not the first daft thing she has said. She said something catty about Todd in the first week and last week had a dig at Kyran about being in the skate off before.
TraceyUK
18-02-2014
Taken her 12hrs just to change her password and remove that tweet, now surely if you'd really been hacked you'd have been on there ASAP to sort it?
grumpyoldbat
18-02-2014
If you've genuinely been hacked, it can take several hours to regain control of the account as you have to go via Twitter support. A genuine hacker would go in and not only change the password, but change the email to which a password reset was sent. I know a couple of people who were genuinely hacked (not this celeb excuse thing) and it took a couple of days to get their accounts back.
mnc
18-02-2014
I would imagine after leaving the show on Sunday night there would have been a few drinks afterwards, then an early start for This Morning on Monday. With possibly little sleep it's quite likely she was having a catch up!
wazzyboy
18-02-2014
Many celebs even those a long way from the A list seem quite media savvy (including social media) and very adept at speaking out without being openly critical of others. Gaffes like those made by Mr Arthur of X Factor notoriety seem to be the preserve of the relatively low profile and/or inexperienced.

It all seems very odd to me.
thenetworkbabe
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“Many celebs even those a long way from the A list seem quite media savvy (including social media) and very adept at speaking out without being openly critical of others. Gaffes like those made by Mr Arthur of X Factor notoriety seem to be the preserve of the relatively low profile and/or inexperienced.

It all seems very odd to me.”

Its not that credible either. Suzanne seems close to Kyran, Beth, Ray and Sam. Kyran has employed her. I can't see her ever wanting to put an order between her friends. Ray first is a no brainer, but she might not even want to say that. Its not something that makes sense to do, and I don't think she would think of any real reason to split Kyran and Sam, or want to decide where to place Beth in relation to them. It would be interesting to know where all the contestants might place Hayley, but, as the others all seem to be close, I can't actually see any of them giving an order just to make the point. You would tweet something else - like how the marks and votes have little to do with ability or difficulty - which has been done elsewhere.
thenetworkbabe
18-02-2014
Originally Posted by johartuk:
“One of the winning group was in the skate-off, so being in the winning group didn't help him.

As for Suzanne's comments, she needs to wind her head in, or she could find it coming back to bite her on the bum.”

The twist makes Suzanne two places lower in the revised scoreboard. It enables one person who has fewer votes free to escape the skate off. Bottom line is, without the twist, she's not in the skate off - unless Sam has passed her in the vote which there's no reason to expect from every previous vote.

The other problem is Hayley having a vote for reasons unrelated to her ability, and Beth's vote coming out in force as she was undermarked and placed in the most obvious risk of being taken out. But that didn't necessarily matter this week without the twist.
echad
19-02-2014
There's an article on DS about this, but it doesn't refer to twitter - it's an interview with the Daily Star where she suggests that Hayley is the weakest skater. Obviously the Daily Star could just be making stuff up, but to me this looks a lot like she wasn't hacked at all (not that I thought that was all that likely in the first place).
lilsaz
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Look like a cover up to me. Been sleeping for hours? She tweeted it before 10pm for goodness sake. So she would of gone to sleep at around 7 ish then.

The tweet will get removed and be blamed on a 'hack' as it always is when a celebrity makes a controversial remark that doesn't turn out well for them!”

A cover up!! Oh don't be so stupid - as if! These are grown women not silly little teenagers!

Have you never been hacked on twitter?. I have and the things that the hackers said on my twitter page were vile. To say it is out of character for her is a massive understatment. She's always been so gracious in defeat. There's no way that this is true.
jake lyle
19-02-2014
For me the article pretty much confirms she tweeted it. Too much of a coincidence.
lilsaz
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“For me the article pretty much confirms she tweeted it. Too much of a coincidence.”

It may well have bene tweeted from her account but that does not mean it was actually her. #hackers
TraceyUK
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by lilsaz:
“It may well have bene tweeted from her account but that does not mean it was actually her. #hackers”

Hackers generally only tweet links to other stuff or general vile comments, they don't normally tweet stuff like this that only targets one person. You usually get a whole pile of tweets and they tend to also send out random DM's to others and also follow random people.

Not once seen anyone say they've had random messages from Suzanne etc which is usually the first sign of someone being hacked.

So unless a 'friend' has got on her twitter and put it to cause trouble then looks like the tweet came from Suzanne herself. IMO
lilsaz
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“Hackers generally only tweet links to other stuff or general vile comments, they don't normally tweet stuff like this that only targets one person. You usually get a whole pile of tweets and they tend to also send out random DM's to others and also follow random people.

Not once seen anyone say they've had random messages from Suzanne etc which is usually the first sign of someone being hacked.

So unless a 'friend' has got on her twitter and put it to cause trouble then looks like the tweet came from Suzanne herself. IMO”

The people that hacked me certainly targeted individual friends of mine but I see what you mean however she's not exactly a known liar though is she and she has since tweeted:

'Never been hacked before! Got it all sorted now! The tweet made me laugh as that would never be my order!'

and I take her a her word far more than any tabloid.
welsh_stud
19-02-2014
She clearly wasn't 'hacked' - she obviously had 1 too many, then decided to use the hacked excuse the following day, she practically said the same thing she tweeted in a daily star interview - she's full of crap..if she said it, she said it. Just grow some balls and admit it. Such a sore loser though, never expected her, off all contestants to start bitching about the others.
Daewos
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by lilsaz:
“The people that hacked me certainly targeted individual friends of mine but I see what you mean however she's not exactly a known liar though is she and she has since tweeted:

'Never been hacked before! Got it all sorted now! The tweet made me laugh as that would never be my order!'

and I take her a her word far more than any tabloid.”

Interesting that she does not actually say that the comments were untrue. Or say anything about Hayley possibly being upset by the comments. And really, if someone hacks her account they only send one message? You get access to a celebrities account and do not go to town? Seems a tad odd to me.
LadyH
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“Such a stupid woman. Clearly annoyed she was first champion out. Public have spoken. Lost a lot of respect for her after making a comment like that.”

DITTO
*Sparkle*
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by Daewos:
“Interesting that she does not actually say that the comments were untrue. Or say anything about Hayley possibly being upset by the comments. And really, if someone hacks her account they only send one message? You get access to a celebrities account and do not go to town? Seems a tad odd to me. ”

If the hacker's purpose was to make it look like a genuine, outspoken tweet from Suzanne, they aren't going to start posting links to porn sites, are they?

It's possible Suzanne believes what was written, and she may even hate Hayley, but she's far too professional, and sensible to make such a daft mistake, even after a lot of wine. It's way more likely that someone thought they could cause mischief by putting the cat amongst the pigeons.
johartuk
19-02-2014
Originally Posted by *Sparkle*:
“If the hacker's purpose was to make it look like a genuine, outspoken tweet from Suzanne, they aren't going to start posting links to porn sites, are they?

It's possible Suzanne believes what was written, and she may even hate Hayley, but she's far too professional, and sensible to make such a daft mistake, even after a lot of wine. It's way more likely that someone thought they could cause mischief by putting the cat amongst the pigeons.”

Why do people have such a hard time believing that Suzanne could have had a lapse in judgement? It's one thing believing that her twitter account was hacked, but to claim that she couldn't have been responsible for that tweet because she was 'far too professional' overlooks the fact that she's human and just as prone to daft behavior as any other zeleb.
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