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Suzanne Shaw "Hayley can't skate"
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protectthecats
24-02-2014
[quote=conchie;71491333]
Originally Posted by hopscotch23:
“Hayley can skate, just not as well as the others. If Beth had been well and performing at her best then I think there could have been a much bigger gulf between Hayley and the other contestants which would have made the deficiencies in Hayley's skating more obvious. As it was, it ended with 'the boys can skate alone, the girls can't' which is not accurate as Beth clearly can skate alone as she does in her routines. Hayley's solo skating in her routines consists of largely toe pick dancing or so it would seem. Obviously being an ice dancing competition rather than a skating skills one skating alone is only one component but it still, to be, is quite a big one

When I read the tweet from Suzanne my first thought was that it had been written by a child, it was typed in the way I could imagine one of my children doing. You can imagine scenario, Suzanne expresses at home her opinion that Hayley can't skate as well as the others and then a disgruntled or mischievous child decides to put it on her Twitter. Of course this is as much supposition as anything else![/QUOTE]

Yes indeed, that was the theory and again | stress THEORY that made the most sense to me too. I could easily imagine her voicing her opinion strongly at home about what she thinks of the others and it could unfortunately have been acted upon outside her control on twitter !!

Judging by her tweets last night as the show was on, she seemed to be doing nothing to dispel how she feels about who is left. She tweeted "what a joke" when Kyran and Sam ended up in the skate off, which by implication of course means she felt others should have been .... and as Ray could not be included in that as he had it won before the show ever started, you have to conclude that she felt strongly that the skate off should have been between Beth and Hayley.

There were also tweets from her urging everyone to vote for Sam, and very friendly tweets to Kyran so she obviously has no problem with either of those two !!! Simple elimination tells you who the problem is with, and even Beth could be semi outruled as she has been tweeting loads of friendly tweets to Beth over the course of the show and they were at the NTA's together with lots of happy pictures afterwards. Nah.. its down to one....which can only make for an awkward tour bus !

As she is also apparently in the running for a permanent role on the Loose Women panel, there could also be an element of trying to drum up a bit of a controversial attitude which could only aid matters in that endeavour !!”

Also I noticed Ray and Suzanne seemed to get on well, Ray was the first one she hugged after the team challenge and they seemed to get during the duel. So I personally took her tweets last night to refer to Hayley too but I could be wrong.

Also thinks it makes sense for her to urge people to vote Sam given how many skate offs hes had and based on last nights performances he shouldn't be there. I'm actually starting to enjoy seeing Sam now
xeo
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by WhyHelloWorld:
“It DOES work both ways. Kyran and Beth get better marks from Karen and Robin than they do from Ashley and Jason. Hayley gets better marks from Jason and Ashley.

Suzanne did get bloody credited. She fell over in one of her performances as well as having a wobble and it got completely overlooked!”

With Beth I think people are just frustrated that she's undermarked by all four judges in general. As you say she receives a bit more credit from Robin and Karen but it's still not enough IMO - the skating judges praise Hayley on a bad week more than they do Beth on a good week which really shouldn't be the case.
lilsaz
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by cah:
“Of course she wasn't hacked ,she's probably still pissed off that Hayley was liked more than her in Emmerdale and that Hayleys still getting acting work where she's getting none and to top it all Hayley has now shown to be more popular than her with the public in this show .so the old green eyed monster got the better of her and she tweeted what she did

Suzanne as always come across as bitchy to me ,and this time she let her mask slip for all to see ”

I disagree, she's never come across as bitchy to me. This idea that she's jealous of Hayley is beyond ridiculous!. Unfortunately it is in peoples nature to believe the worst.
Chris1347
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by xeo:
“With Beth I think people are just frustrated that she's undermarked by all four judges in general. As you say she receives a bit more credit from Robin and Karen but it's still not enough IMO - the skating judges praise Hayley on a bad week more than they do Beth on a good week which really shouldn't be the case.”

Definitely the case with me, regarding Beth! If it was a level playing field and her great skating was being appreciated and she was marked accordingly the GBP wouldn't need to protect her so much! She will be getting all of my votes anyway, having said that I do like Ray too and he is a great skater. I can't take to Sam and Vicky but don't know why, Hayley is just to OTT for me!
Chris1347
24-02-2014
[quote=Chris1347;71495845]Definitely the case with me, regarding Beth! If it was a level playing field and her great skating was being appreciated and she was marked accordingly the GBP wouldn't need to protect her so much! She will be getting all of my votes anyway, having said that I do like Ray too and he is a great skater. I can't take to Sam and Vicky but don't know why, Hayley is just too OTT for me!
mattthemole
24-02-2014
In my opinion Hayley gets through every week because the voters vote in their droves for Dan - they love Dan not her! Dan is DOI's sweetheart.. people will love to see him in this Champion of Champion's final
SillyBillyGoat
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by welsh_stud:
“If someone were to hack, then they would cause a lot more trouble than that. Plus Suzanne has said in numerous interviews since that Hayley's the weakest skater. She clearly said it..she should just admit it. If that's the way she feels, no matter how bitter she comes across. Anyhow, this is in the past now. Time to move on I think ”

I don't think it's fair to label someone bitter for doing what every single person on here does: voicing an opinion about contestants in these shows. Have you never voiced a criticism of a contestant on this, or any other, show?

Why is it okay for us to do so, but as soon as the contestants themselves do it, they're being "bitter"?

I do think the way the tweet was worded was unnecessarily mean-spirited, but there's nothing wrong with the principle of an eliminated contestant taking the opportunity to voice their opinion, and it's strange that people here (who are doing the same every week) slam them for it.
Tiger Rose
24-02-2014
[quote=SillyBillyGoat;71496722]I don't think it's fair to label someone bitter for doing what every single person on here does: voicing an opinion about contestants in these shows. Have you never voiced a criticism of a contestant on this, or any other, show?

Why is it okay for us to do so, but as soon as the contestants themselves do it, they're being "bitter"?

I do think the way the tweet was worded was unnecessarily mean-spirited, but there's nothing wrong with the principle of an eliminated contestant taking the opportunity to voice their opinion, and it's strange that people here (who are doing the same every week) slam them for it.[/QUOTE]

I'm actually finding it rather refreshing that Suzanne & Kyran are being quite forthright in their views after leaving the show. More interesting than the usual bland platitudes that's for sure. You don't have to agree with everything they say (I don't share their enthusiasm for Sam) but they have every right to voice their opinions.
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