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Amazon takes on Netflix with rebrand of LoveFilm video-on-demand service
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Peter the Great
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by wakey:
“Its needed to be on your watchlist to show expiry dates ever since watchlists were added. It makes sense really as that's the point of the watchlist after all.

And are you sure it was 90 days. Longest I've ever seen is 30 days even before the switch. I've seen titles on my watchlist since the switch show 17 days so Amazons may be showing longer.

With Netflix though I know it depends on the studio and the contract on the warning they can give”

Yes I am. For starters the V TV series was about 60 days to expire just before it changed over to Amazon. 90 days was definately the time it counted down to expiry and you did not have to use the watchlist. If you clicked on a title it would display the expiry date.
wakey
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“Yes I am. For starters the V TV series was about 60 days to expire just before it changed over to Amazon. 90 days was definately the time it counted down to expiry and you did not have to use the watchlist. If you clicked on a title it would display the expiry date.”

No it didn't, they changed it when the watchlist was added. Its why for example so many people complained about Greys Anatomy being removed the day after the switch despite it having been warning people for 2 weeks it was going to be removed.
Peter the Great
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by wakey:
“No it didn't, they changed it when the watchlist was added. Its why for example so many people complained about Greys Anatomy being removed the day after the switch despite it having been warning people for 2 weeks it was going to be removed.”

But you didn't have to add it to your watchlist to see the expiry date. Also has I said you had more than 2 weeks warning. The film The Offender for example I watched on Lovefilm when it was showing about 68 day's to expire.
mikey86uk
29-03-2014
Got Amazon Prime video included with my Prime membership and honestly didn't expect to use it, but there are films on there i forgot about and also really good TV Series that i missed like Prison Break and Walking Dead.

So for me I'm liking this Prime Video
SimonB79
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by mikey86uk:
“Got Amazon Prime video included with my Prime membership and honestly didn't expect to use it, but there are films on there i forgot about and also really good TV Series that i missed like Prison Break and Walking Dead.

So for me I'm liking this Prime Video ”

I mainly use amazon prime for Castle!
(I think netflix only has the 1st 2 seasons iirc!)
JumpTheShark
29-03-2014
Can someone tell me if I've got this right... it looks like i'm paying £5.99 a month (or roughly £72 a year) for Prime instant and £4 a month for LoveFilm by post. If I upgrade to full Prime with the next day delivery, it's £79 a year. So in effect I get full Prime for £7 a year?
Peter the Great
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by SimonB79:
“I mainly use amazon prime for Castle!
(I think netflix only has the 1st 2 seasons iirc!) ”

Obviously both have their exclusives and that is why I have both but is amazing that both do share some content as well. For example both have 5 seasons of Sons of Anarchy and the 5th season seem to be added to both services on the same day.
paulsalter
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by JumpTheShark:
“Can someone tell me if I've got this right... it looks like i'm paying £5.99 a month (or roughly £72 a year) for Prime instant and £4 a month for LoveFilm by post. If I upgrade to full Prime with the next day delivery, it's £79 a year. So in effect I get full Prime for £7 a year?”

The extra £7 gives you full prime membership

if you want discs you would still have to pay £4/month on top of this
JumpTheShark
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by paulsalter:
“The extra £7 gives you full prime membership

if you want discs you would still have to pay £4/month on top of this”

I'm already paying £5.99 + £4 for the two discs at a time deal, so all I'd be paying is £7 extra. A pretty good deal! Thanks
SimonB79
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“Obviously both have their exclusives and that is why I have both but is amazing that both do share some content as well. For example both have 5 seasons of Sons of Anarchy and the 5th season seem to be added to both services on the same day.”

Same here I've got both aswell ... that way ya don't miss owt!

(& it's only £12 a month which is nowt!)
Hopper's mum
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by JumpTheShark:
“Can someone tell me if I've got this right... it looks like i'm paying £5.99 a month (or roughly £72 a year) for Prime instant and £4 a month for LoveFilm by post. If I upgrade to full Prime with the next day delivery, it's £79 a year. So in effect I get full Prime for £7 a year?”

I also have the old Lovefilm which was for 2 discs and online access. It's now split as you say but what is full Prime??
wakey
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“But you didn't have to add it to your watchlist to see the expiry date. Also has I said you had more than 2 weeks warning. The film The Offender for example I watched on Lovefilm when it was showing about 68 day's to expire.”

Except you did have to add it to your watchlist. They removed the warning on the overview when they added the watchlist. Once again its why people complained about Greys being removed a day after it switched from Lovefilm to Amazon claiming they got no notice when the notice was on the watch-list for many weeks in advance.

And the notice period is set by the deal with the distributor. You will notice Netflix expiry warnings aren't a standard length either
wakey
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by Hopper's mum:
“I also have the old Lovefilm which was for 2 discs and online access. It's now split as you say but what is full Prime??”

Free next day delivery on prime eligible items on Amazon (basically anything sold by Amazon themselves or any 3rd party seller who uses the fulfilled by Amazon service)

You also get 1 rental of a ebook from the kindle lending library (but only on Kindle devices) a month
wakey
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“Obviously both have their exclusives and that is why I have both but is amazing that both do share some content as well. For example both have 5 seasons of Sons of Anarchy and the 5th season seem to be added to both services on the same day.”

SoA even now probably doesn't have enough of a draw to justify either paying for exclusive rights. And they wouldn't be able to hold s5 back for one as the deals aren't usually per season but for the show as a whole so if the next season becomes available during the rights window they have to make it available to them all
muppetman11
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by Peter the Great:
“Obviously both have their exclusives and that is why I have both but is amazing that both do share some content as well. For example both have 5 seasons of Sons of Anarchy and the 5th season seem to be added to both services on the same day.”

Agreed they both seem to be adding exclusives , Amazon Prime is to add Starz 'Black Sails' from April 4th.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...in-the-uk.html
paulsalter
30-03-2014
getting used to the new system now, not sure if they have changed anything, but the streaming actually works for me now (had constant buffering with Lovefilm streaming)

feature wise I think Netflix has the edge, content wise both seem ok for what I want to view

sticking with amazon for now, but unless improvements are made I will probably go back to netflix later in the year, i find the experience much better
tvsatweek
03-04-2014
How do I find out if I have the latest app on my sony tv and blu ray player
Hopper's mum
03-04-2014
Originally Posted by tvsatweek:
“How do I find out if I have the latest app on my sony tv and blu ray player”

We watch Lovefilm through our Sony TV and we haven't had to change anything if that's any help
tvsatweek
03-04-2014
The app look different on ps3 to my sony tv and sony blu ray player
Hopper's mum
07-04-2014
Another problem that I've just noticed - on our Rental List it used to have a symbol to say if they were available on the watch now facility. It doesn't any more.

Example: Alpha Papa (Alan Partridge) is on our Rental List but it says nothing about the fact that it is available to watch now on Prime.
kaycee
07-04-2014
Originally Posted by Tiwttmos:
“I have an Amazon Prime account, and have no interest in streaming movies. I can't see me renewing my Prime membership.”

Me neither.

I asked them if they were going to have a 2-tier membership, and they said NO! So have just cancelled my account - £79 to save some postage is exorbitant as, like you, I have no interest in streaming videos.
wakey
07-04-2014
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Me neither.

I asked them if they were going to have a 2-tier membership, and they said NO! So have just cancelled my account - £79 to save some postage is exorbitant as, like you, I have no interest in streaming videos.”

They won't offer a 2-tier membership because the streaming is a free added extra. They were losing money on the free shipping in all territories they operate in which is why they were hunting at price rises since January.

And £79 for free next day postage is hardly exorbitant. Next day delivery on Amazon costs between £2.50 and £6.50 depending on the item. It doesn't work out as needing that many orders to get your money's worth
kaycee
07-04-2014
Originally Posted by wakey:
“They won't offer a 2-tier membership because the streaming is a free added extra. They were losing money on the free shipping in all territories they operate in which is why they were hunting at price rises since January.

And £79 for free next day postage is hardly exorbitant. Next day delivery on Amazon costs between £2.50 and £6.50 depending on the item. It doesn't work out as needing that many orders to get your money's worth”

It's hardly free if it means prime membership is going up from £49 p.a. to £79 p.a. I certainly don't order enough from them to save that sort of postage.
wakey
08-04-2014
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“It's hardly free if it means prime membership is going up from £49 p.a. to £79 p.a. I certainly don't order enough from them to save that sort of postage.”

The streaming wasn't the cause of the increase though, it was going up anyway just as Amazon said it would do in their January earnings report. They just used the streaming as a way to 'soften' the blow of the increase while also bringing the services outside the US more inline with the US service. The US got an increase from $79 to $99 without any sweeteners (which in real terms rather than currency conversion terms makes it significantly more expense than the UK service and they only get 2 day shipping and that price doesn't even include sales tax)
kaycee
08-04-2014
Originally Posted by wakey:
“The streaming wasn't the cause of the increase though, it was going up anyway just as Amazon said it would do in their January earnings report. They just used the streaming as a way to 'soften' the blow of the increase while also bringing the services outside the US more inline with the US service. The US got an increase from $79 to $99 without any sweeteners (which in real terms rather than currency conversion terms makes it significantly more expense than the UK service and they only get 2 day shipping and that price doesn't even include sales tax)”

Well, whatever their excuse or 'sweeteners', a £30 a year increase is still way too steep. Everyone I know who has subscribed to Prime has now cancelled their automatic renewal as a result.
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