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Old 18-02-2016, 10:35
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I think an xmas launch, catch people when they are more willing to spend, grab as bigger user base as possible in as little time as possible, then let nature take its course.

Strike hard and fast in the cold of winter when people want indoor entertainment more and not planning and saving for summer get aways.

Just my pennies worth.
I think they will launch limited stock earlier, be out of stock everywhere (like the PS4 was), then release with huge stock just before xmas when demand is even higher maybe at an inflated price.
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Old 18-02-2016, 12:59
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Ace Combat 7.

I know you've already got EVE Valkyrie and War Thunder there, but I think this could be epic.

And Sony are now saying GameStop CEO was just "speculating". But still haven't said anything to clarify a launch window.
It wasn't on the list I used, but it could easily replace one of the flight games on the list if it going to be better.

I'm surprised 'Kitchen' isn't on that list.
You'll notice a distinct lack of horrors on my list. I tend not to do so well with them. Outlast and PT made me shit my pants. I'd like one to have for the experience but I wouldn't be racing out to get one.

Oh and the 100ft mini golf game does look cool too.
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Old 18-02-2016, 13:38
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I think they will launch limited stock earlier, be out of stock everywhere (like the PS4 was), then release with huge stock just before xmas when demand is even higher maybe at an inflated price.
I take it you're not a businessman? You don't launch a product at a lower price and then hike the price up. The consumer will slaughter you for that. The PS4 VR will almost certainly launch at a price that will only appeal to the hardcore gamer, as it's likely to cost as much as the console itself. The idea of them putting that price even higher is ludicrous.

According to a recent pole quite a lot of developers aren't interested in VR, think the figure was 66% or so. And only about 22% are actually developing for VR.
Not too surprising. The tech is new, untested in the mass market, expensive to buy and expensive to develop for. I think the "aren't interested" is purely from a financial and business perspective; I can't understand why any developer would say they're not interested in the technology itself, which could change the landscape of gaming as we know it.
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Old 18-02-2016, 13:57
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I take it you're not a businessman? You don't launch a product at a lower price and then hike the price up. The consumer will slaughter you for that. The PS4 VR will almost certainly launch at a price that will only appeal to the hardcore gamer, as it's likely to cost as much as the console itself. The idea of them putting that price even higher is ludicrous.
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You'd be wrong, because your only talking about Sales in, I'm talking about Sales out, where places like Game could increase the price due to the demand, so Sony wont be at fault. Maybe my wording was incorrect by saying inflated prices but giving a discounted price for early adopters isnt unheard of, word of mouth being part of their marketing campaign to get the brand out there for the doubters.

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Old 18-02-2016, 14:10
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Sorry I just don't see it as changing the landscape for ever. It's not new, it was in the arcades 25 years ago or so, it's like 3d gaming, it's a fad thing that again hasn't taken off. It will be mildly entertaining for a while. It's not a very social thing, can't see many people gathered around the console while one guy/girl plays, your going to loose the social interaction.

I can't see my wife being amused with me, if I sat there with it on my head, totally ignoring her, as I can't see her (might be a good thing).
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Old 18-02-2016, 14:20
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Sorry I just don't see it as changing the landscape for ever. It's not new, it was in the arcades 25 years ago or so, it's like 3d gaming, it's a fad thing that again hasn't taken off. It will be mildly entertaining for a while. It's not a very social thing, can't see many people gathered around the console while one guy/girl plays, your going to loose the social interaction.

I can't see my wife being amused with me, if I sat there with it on my head, totally ignoring her, as I can't see her (might be a good thing).
I don't think anyone is expecting this to replace playing with a controller in front of your tv.

You're right, it's not new, we did see this 25 years ago, but not like this. Technology has finally caught up so this idea that didn't work 25 years ago will work now. And I get that you don't believe in this, but as has been said many many times before, You need to try this before you write it off. Honestly, this is so immersive, it will change your view on VR completely. VR isn't something that can be easily conveyed in a video or an article, it's very much a see it to believe it thing.
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Old 18-02-2016, 14:31
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My main fear is that we will see a slew of crap games made for VR, much like we had when they tried to 3d make main stream back in the 80's and all we had was "B" movies with lots of out of screen finger pointing and objects coming at us.

I'm obviously not the target audience for VR as I don't play those sort of games that would benefit from VR.
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Old 18-02-2016, 14:38
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Sorry I just don't see it as changing the landscape for ever. It's not new, it was in the arcades 25 years ago or so, it's like 3d gaming, it's a fad thing that again hasn't taken off. It will be mildly entertaining for a while. It's not a very social thing, can't see many people gathered around the console while one guy/girl plays, your going to loose the social interaction.

I can't see my wife being amused with me, if I sat there with it on my head, totally ignoring her, as I can't see her (might be a good thing).
VR now is very different to what was possible 25 years ago. The fact that it's in the home, not just in an arcade with big pay-per-play costs will make a huge difference. You might as well say "Atari died so what's the point in PlayStation"

There are a number of games that cater for social gaming. PlayStation VR can display different viewpoints simultaneously on the TV and Headset with local 5 player games possible. Stop Talking And Nobody Explodes' Monster Escape and Cat 'n' Mouse are examples of this.

Even in single player games, the TV shows what you can see in the headset, so no different to what happens now really.

With VR it's also possible to play without using the TV at all, so if the Wife's really not interested at least you can play and leave her to watch the soaps in peace.

My main fear is that we will see a slew of crap games made for VR, much like we had when they tried to 3d make main stream back in the 80's and all we had was "B" movies with lots of out of screen finger pointing and objects coming at us.

I'm obviously not the target audience for VR as I don't play those sort of games that would benefit from VR.
There will always be second-rate companies jumping on the bandwagon, trying to make a quick buck off the back of the latest innovations, but with bona fide big name titles like Gran Turismo, Project Cars, Trackmania, Ace Combat, Driveclub, Tekken, RIGS, Battlezone, EVE Valkyrie etc supporting VR I don't see it being an issue.

What sort of games do you play?
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Old 18-02-2016, 15:29
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You list some impressive games but leave out ARC ..... tut tut

That game has me foaming at the mouth
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Old 18-02-2016, 16:01
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You list some impressive games but leave out ARC ..... tut tut

That game has me foaming at the mouth
Oops. To make matters worse, I've got an early version of that at home and haven't got around to checking it out yet.

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Old 18-02-2016, 16:08
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Sony apparently have a patent for a computer controlled interactive chair that would work with PSVR.
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Old 18-02-2016, 18:51
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I would say to anyone with second thoughts about VR to even give Google Cardboard a go. It's £15 for the most up-to-date headset that will work with virtually any smartphone.

The quality from that experience is nothing compared to the professional headsets like OR, PSVR etc. Yet it is a million miles more sophisticated than the arcade VR of yesteryears or the likes of the Nintendo Virtual Boy; and it's immersive enough to have truly given me the heebie-jeebies playing several of the horror games and videos. I can't begin to imagine how much better PSVR will be than it.
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Old 18-02-2016, 19:35
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I would say to anyone with second thoughts about VR to even give Google Cardboard a go. It's £15 for the most up-to-date headset that will work with virtually any smartphone.

The quality from that experience is nothing compared to the professional headsets like OR, PSVR etc. Yet it is a million miles more sophisticated than the arcade VR of yesteryears or the likes of the Nintendo Virtual Boy; and it's immersive enough to have truly given me the heebie-jeebies playing several of the horror games and videos. I can't begin to imagine how much better PSVR will be than it.
I can absolutely second this sentiment. I got a Google Cardboard a while ago, and just replaced it with a plastic version.....

http://m.gearbest.com/virtual-reality/pp_169233.html

..... which cost £6.69 and use it with my iPhone 6.

Very basic compared to what the dedicated VR systems can do, but a great introduction to the medium all the same.
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Old 19-02-2016, 01:49
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Oops. To make matters worse, I've got an early version of that at home and haven't got around to checking it out yet.

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Is that on. steam or something ?


Actually I might give Google cardboard or something like it a whirl to tide me over til PSVR hits it's been two years since I tried the OR.
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Old 19-02-2016, 11:28
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I can absolutely second this sentiment. I got a Google Cardboard a while ago, and just replaced it with a plastic version.....

http://m.gearbest.com/virtual-reality/pp_169233.html

..... which cost £6.69 and use it with my iPhone 6.

Very basic compared to what the dedicated VR systems can do, but a great introduction to the medium all the same.
I would happily upgrade to a more dedicated Google VR headset like that but looks like that one has a magnet interaction with the screen which doesn't work with my phone (and quite a few others actually).

The cardboard V2 uses a touch capacitive sensor which is much better and works with any smartphone
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Old 19-02-2016, 19:18
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Adr1ft is been released on PC and Rift on March 28th, so should be a launch title on PSVR.
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Old 19-02-2016, 19:29
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Adr1ft is been released on PC and Rift on March 28th, so should be a launch title on PSVR.
Latest trailer for the game. If the 3D can properly convey the sense of depth, this could be a stunning experience.

http://youtu.be/b98j9w7Pet4
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Old 21-02-2016, 08:02
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Latest trailer for the game. If the 3D can properly convey the sense of depth, this could be a stunning experience.

http://youtu.be/b98j9w7Pet4
Looks great, but it has to have a good game underneath.
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Old 23-02-2016, 23:39
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Sony are holding a PlayStation VR press event on Tuesday March 15th, 10pm UK time. Looks like we'll finally get the launch details.
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Old 24-02-2016, 00:08
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Here's to hoping for a reasonable price as well as some great games for it. That's all I need, not really bothered about whether it comes out in April or Autumn or whenever - just as long as it isn't wallet-breaking, I'll buy one.
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Old 24-02-2016, 00:17
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I'm hoping for an early release, just so I can get my hands on it as quick as I can

I'm also hoping for €400 for the headset, but don't really care as the missus is getting it for me.

And I know the games will be relatively sparse at launch but I have my "to play" list made so I will eagerly await them too.
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Old 24-02-2016, 11:18
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Thankfully it will put an end to all the rumoured prices, the latest being a Czech website having it priced at approx £350, which is doable for me
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:05
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Thankfully it will put an end to all the rumoured prices, the latest being a Czech website having it priced at approx £350, which is doable for me
When I first read that I thought you said it is double for you. You thought it would cost £175 But then I woke up and read it right.

£350 would be just fine
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:10
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When I first read that I thought you said it is double for you. You thought it would cost £175 But then I woke up and read it right.

£350 would be just fine
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my fault for being lazy and not using a hyphen

I'm assuming Shopto will have a finance option so I may take that route if it costs more than expected. Im looking for some Move controllers now, all the ones in my local Game have gone (£6 last I heard)
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Old 24-02-2016, 12:11
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Thankfully it will put an end to all the rumoured prices, the latest being a Czech website having it priced at approx £350, which is doable for me
Agreed. That Amazon "leak" could have been quite damaging for Sony. A number of people took it seriously with quite a few on social media ruling themselves out as a result.

Hopefully this briefing won't just be a case of "we're launching in Autumn, see you at E3"
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