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Old 20-03-2016, 14:31
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Cinematic Mode for playing PS4 games..
Like the sound of this. I've only just read up on the cinematic mode and it's been very revealing. I perhaps naively initially presumed PSVR was a VR content supporting product only. And hadn't thought it conceivable for ALL PS4 games to be playable via the headset. Clearly albeit without the head tracking, move elements etc. Apparently cinematic mode provides three zoomable options of small, medium or large screen. Content can be displayed up to a virtual screen size of 225 inches (19 feet). That's one big monitor! Alien Isolation anyone?

This has certainly peaked my interest, and I'll be monitoring further updates re 'Cinematic' mode herein.

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Old 20-03-2016, 14:57
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And to be honest, if you hadn't gotten a PS4 by now, you were never gonna get one.
It would have needed something to change, and PSVR might have been that change, had it come out sooner or been better. Otherwise the next change would have been needing to upgrade my PC. As it is, I'll probably upgrade it to run Vive and/or Oculus, and then not need to again this console generation.

I gamed on a PC before, then switched to PS3 for 5 years, and then switched back to PC. I'm willing to switch. I don't agree PC people are a different kind of person to console people. I'm happy to switch. It still might happen, if the content on PSVR turns out to be more compelling.
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Old 20-03-2016, 15:22
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Just been to my local GAME and pre-ordered mine. Roll on October!
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Old 21-03-2016, 12:46
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Like the sound of this. I've only just read up on the cinematic mode and it's been very revealing. I perhaps naively initially presumed PSVR was a VR content supporting product only. And hadn't thought it conceivable for ALL PS4 games to be playable via the headset. Clearly albeit without the head tracking, move elements etc. Apparently cinematic mode provides three zoomable options of small, medium or large screen. Content can be displayed up to a virtual screen size of 225 inches (19 feet). That's one big monitor! Alien Isolation anyone?

This has certainly peaked my interest, and I'll be monitoring further updates re 'Cinematic' mode herein.

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Woahh! That would be absolutely incredible! Having a virtual theatre to yourself and playing games on a imax size screen!
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Old 21-03-2016, 13:15
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Woahh! That would be absolutely incredible! Having a virtual theatre to yourself and playing games on a imax size screen!
One thing to remember is that the VR HD display is already split for each eye giving you half the resolution. Also the cinematic mode displays a VR representation of a movie screen. So the actual resolution of the movie you watch will be less than that. I think for cinematic mode to really be good you would need closer to a 4k display so each eye gets a full HD image.

I'm not yet convinced that cinematic mode will be anything more than just a fun diversion for the product and I can't see me using it much other than maybe for some of my 3d movies for a more immersive 3d.
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Old 21-03-2016, 15:48
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There are many similar apps for other VR devices already. Unfortunately the effect sounds better than it actually is. Very difficult to fool your brain into thinking you're looking at a screen bigger than what it actually is.
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Old 21-03-2016, 18:52
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Like the sound of this. I've only just read up on the cinematic mode and it's been very revealing. I perhaps naively initially presumed PSVR was a VR content supporting product only. And hadn't thought it conceivable for ALL PS4 games to be playable via the headset. Clearly albeit without the head tracking, move elements etc. Apparently cinematic mode provides three zoomable options of small, medium or large screen. Content can be displayed up to a virtual screen size of 225 inches (19 feet). That's one big monitor! Alien Isolation anyone?

This has certainly peaked my interest, and I'll be monitoring further updates re 'Cinematic' mode herein.

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True, I take your point; but for me, it will be worth it to experience gaming on such a huge screen - or seemingly huge.

One thing to remember is that the VR HD display is already split for each eye giving you half the resolution. Also the cinematic mode displays a VR representation of a movie screen. So the actual resolution of the movie you watch will be less than that. I think for cinematic mode to really be good you would need closer to a 4k display so each eye gets a full HD image.

I'm not yet convinced that cinematic mode will be anything more than just a fun diversion for the product and I can't see me using it much other than maybe for some of my 3d movies for a more immersive 3d.
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Old 22-03-2016, 13:09
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Just been to my local GAME and pre-ordered mine. Roll on October!
I wouldn't bet on it with GAME, they have a history of screwing up pre-orders.
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Old 22-03-2016, 13:38
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I wouldn't bet on it with GAME, they have a history of screwing up pre-orders.
I've had issues with Tesco Direct, Amazon and Play.com (Rakouten) in the past. Wouldn't trust any of them with this. GAME have never met me down on a launch day. PS4 pre-order and midnight launch went perfectly.

Besides, as we don't have an exact launch date yet, I don't know if I'll be working or not. Mail order is a nightmare in those circumstances, which is why I'm using a store. If I'm off, I'll collect (perhaps even at midnight). But, if I'm working, I'll ask someone to go into town for me. Can't expect someone to sit in my house for 12 hours waiting for a package which may never arrive.
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Old 22-03-2016, 17:12
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DS has an article about the supposed PS4.5.

Would you buy PSVR if there is a PS4.5 on the way that offers everything in one, neater box? I don't know if I would and I was tempted.
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Old 25-03-2016, 15:24
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PlayStation VR will be showing at EGX Rezzed this year. Details here on how to get involved.

https://www.egx.net/rezzed/news/play...-to-egx-rezzed
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Old 26-03-2016, 09:11
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VR would be good with something like eurotruck, would feel totally natural I imagine, massive difference when it comes to look out at junctions
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Old 04-04-2016, 20:09
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If you're heading to EGX Rezzed this week, you can book a slot to try PSVR here -

http://trypsvr.com/?utm_campaign=Reg...nt=a%3Awebsite
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Old 13-04-2016, 21:55
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Ghost In The Shell VR movie is coming to PSVR

http://youtu.be/k1If-xnI3wc
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Old 14-04-2016, 13:22
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So the VR headset will come with free Playroom VR as well as a demo disc. VR world is a seperate purchase with 5 games.

I'm looking forward to getting RIGs anyone know what the price point of VR games?

Also found a vid of the actiual PSVR and Ps4 setup, you will need an 3 plug sockets and does seem to be a lot of wires

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfoyT9bKvpg

Sorry if this has all been mentioned before in this thread.
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Old 14-04-2016, 16:25
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So the VR headset will come with free Playroom VR as well as a demo disc. VR world is a seperate purchase with 5 games.

I'm looking forward to getting RIGs anyone know what the price point of VR games?

Also found a vid of the actiual PSVR and Ps4 setup, you will need an 3 plug sockets and does seem to be a lot of wires

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfoyT9bKvpg

Sorry if this has all been mentioned before in this thread.
Yep. Playroom is already pre-installed on all PS4s. I'm guessing there will probably just be an update / DLC. Demo disc in the box, VR Worlds available to buy / download.

VR games will be at the same price point as other PS4 titles. Which probably means starting at £7.99 for your small indie titles, all the way up to £54.99 for big name AAAs.

That animation makes it look really complicated. The Processing Unit does indeed need its own power supply. HDMI will go PS4 to Processing Unit to TV. Add a USB cable between the PS4 and Processing Unit. Headset then plugs into the processing unit with headphones if you want them. Not so bad in reality.
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Old 14-04-2016, 16:29
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I didnt realize that the PS4 to Processing unit requires a hdmi cable and a USb cable ??

I also thought we might be able to plug headphones into the headset as opposed to the processing unit. Although Ill probably just use the surround sound as usual.
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Old 14-04-2016, 16:41
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I didnt realize that the PS4 to Processing unit requires a hdmi cable and a USb cable ??

I also thought we might be able to plug headphones into the headset as opposed to the processing unit. Although Ill probably just use the surround sound as usual.
Yeah.

When you're playing a VR game (or using virtual cinema) the PU sends the HDMI signal directly to the headset. Meanwhile, the USB carries the picture from the PS4's Shareplay chip which the PU can send to the TV. That's how it's possible to have 2 different viewpoints on the headset and TV in certain games.

When you're playing a regular game on the TV, the PU will redirect the HDMI signal to the TV instead.

Sorry, I might have confused things about the headphones. They will plug into the headset (or perhaps the volume control on the cord) which in turn uses the headset cable to connect to the PU.

You can use surround sound, but the PU also does 3D sound which will integrate with the VR much better.
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Old 15-04-2016, 08:57
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Yeah.

When you're playing a VR game (or using virtual cinema) the PU sends the HDMI signal directly to the headset. Meanwhile, the USB carries the picture from the PS4's Shareplay chip which the PU can send to the TV. That's how it's possible to have 2 different viewpoints on the headset and TV in certain games.

When you're playing a regular game on the TV, the PU will redirect the HDMI signal to the TV instead.

Sorry, I might have confused things about the headphones. They will plug into the headset (or perhaps the volume control on the cord) which in turn uses the headset cable to connect to the PU.

You can use surround sound, but the PU also does 3D sound which will integrate with the VR much better.
BIB - I doubt that is right. USB is far too limited in bandwidth to send pictures. The USB is likely used to send the positional information from the headset to the PS4
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Old 15-04-2016, 09:00
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BIB - I doubt that is right. USB is far too limited in bandwidth to send pictures. The USB is likely used to send the positional information from the headset to the PS4
Doesnt this use both the PS4 USB sockets?
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Old 15-04-2016, 09:49
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BIB - I doubt that is right. USB is far too limited in bandwidth to send pictures. The USB is likely used to send the positional information from the headset to the PS4
I'm pretty sure it does both. USB 3.0 runs at 5 gbps (640MBps) which is more than enough for the 720p/30 asynchronous screens.

The alternative would be using HDMI to send a 1080p/120 and a completely separate 720p/30 signal simultaneously. Even if it had the bandwidth I'm not sure PS4 is set up internally to manage that.

Doesnt this use both the PS4 USB sockets?
No, just 1.
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Old 15-04-2016, 11:11
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I'm pretty sure it does both. USB 3.0 runs at 5 gbps (640MBps) which is more than enough for the 720p/30 asynchronous screens.

The alternative would be using HDMI to send a 1080p/120 and a completely separate 720p/30 signal simultaneously. Even if it had the bandwidth I'm not sure PS4 is set up internally to manage that.



No, just 1.
The add on box does all of that.

PS4 HDMI out >- VR Box HDMI in
then
VR Box HDMI out x2

The additional box takes the VR image from the PS4 and processes the image to extract an additional image for the TV. Regardless of the bandwidth of USB3, the PS4 would not have enough power to create three images.
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Old 15-04-2016, 11:15
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The add on box does all of that.

PS4 HDMI out >- VR Box HDMI in
then
VR Box HDMI out x2

The additional box takes the VR image from the PS4 and processes the image to extract an additional image for the TV. Regardless of the bandwidth of USB3, the PS4 would not have enough power to create three images.
3 images? Wouldn't the TV just get one of the images going to the headset?
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Old 15-04-2016, 12:05
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The add on box does all of that.

PS4 HDMI out >- VR Box HDMI in
then
VR Box HDMI out x2

The additional box takes the VR image from the PS4 and processes the image to extract an additional image for the TV. Regardless of the bandwidth of USB3, the PS4 would not have enough power to create three images.
Under "normal" circumstances, such as a single player VR game, you are right. The box takes the VR image from the PS4's HDMI, de-warps it and reframes it to look right on the TV while sending the original to the headset.

But remember, PSVR is also capable of local asynchronous multiplayer. Up to 5 people can play at once - 1 player on the headset and another 4 on the TV. In this situation the TV and headset are displaying completely different, unique images simultaneously. In those circumstances the TV feed comes from the Shareplay chip, via USB, into the box and out via HDMI to the TV. Meanwhile the headset just gets its picture PS4's HDMI > box > headset as usual.
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Old 15-04-2016, 12:07
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3 images? Wouldn't the TV just get one of the images going to the headset?
Yes but with some additional processing to change the resolution and FPS. The point is that since the TV and PS VR display at different resolutions, additional processing will be required. The PS4 just isn't powerful enough to create three images. The additional box does all of that.
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