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Old 16-10-2016, 09:13
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Just because you can afford something doesn't make it logical to buy it lol. I could afford to buy two PSVR as well but haven't even bought one as not sold on it yet.
Surely this is a case of Its her money that she's worked hard for so she can buy a million PSVRs if she likes.
I'd gladly drop loads of money on new tech. I love shiny new gadgets too.
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Old 16-10-2016, 10:23
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It doesnt work properly without the wire. If i bought a couch and the dog eat the cushion yes i can still sit on it but its uncomfortable. Id buy another identical one take the cushions off and hope replacements cushions become available.

Given that the dog has already eaten your cable, if it ate the cushion as well i would probably get a new dog, would work out cheaper in the long-run!
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Old 16-10-2016, 10:34
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Given that the dog has already eaten your cable, if it ate the cushion as well i would probably get a new dog, would work out cheaper in the long-run!
A VR dog perhaps?

Agree with the post above, what people spend their money is purely their business.

Whilst VR isn't for me in its current state, a few years down the line when maybe wireless VR is possible at a consumer friendly price, with better resolution, I'll be in.
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Old 16-10-2016, 13:03
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So, who do you think is the best person at Sony to contact to complain about the softness of the lenses and the fact that they are not going to last very long for anyone using with glasses? After the first few hours of use, my PSVR had several scratches on with one that is particularly visible in certain situations.

They sold this to me with the understanding that this was suitable for people to use whilst wearing their glasses. However, they have not provided anything in the design to stop your glasses lenses from touching the VR unit's lenses. All it needed was a small spacer that could be inserted around the edge of the lenses to prevent contact. My PSVR is effectively permanently destroyed after the first session and it's only going to get worse with no solution to protect the lenses.

Any ideas?
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:05
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Seems to be mixed reviews from you guys

I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view?

Also anyone planning to trade in their PSVR CEX are offering £420 cash instore (selling it at £500), I'm assuming the trade in price will go down very soon when stock is back up.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:23
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As long time gamer i think the new Sony VR is amazing. It certainly has the wow factor which was missing from last generation of machines. For the people playing it down on here, what were you really expecting exactly? I think Red Dwarf style ' better than life' games and groinal attachments are still a few years down the line.

So far highlights for me include the brilliant Kitchen demo, the Playroom VR, Batman and Arkham VR, but best of all is the London heist game in VR Worlds - From the great shoot out in the van to the amazing interactions such as being able to smoke a cigar and exhale.
They definitely need to make a full game of this one. It would be the best game ever.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:43
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As long time gamer i think the new Sony VR is amazing. It certainly has the wow factor which was missing from last generation of machines. For the people playing it down on here, what were you really expecting exactly? I think Red Dwarf style ' better than life' games and groinal attachments are still a few years down the line.

So far highlights for me include the brilliant Kitchen demo, the Playroom VR, Batman and Arkham VR, but best of all is the London heist game in VR Worlds - From the great shoot out in the van to the amazing interactions such as being able to smoke a cigar and exhale.
They definitely need to make a full game of this one. It would be the best game ever.
I'm sure it has a 'wow factor' but I'm not certain I want to spend much time in world that resembles something from the Lawnmower Man, that's why I'm sceptical and I'm sure that's why some people haven't been blown away by it.
As a gamer of over 30 years it can't be underestimated how much GFX are a big part of gaming and I've enjoyed the progression so why regress? People can bleat on all they want about gameplay but the simple fact is everyone buys the new generation consoles because the games will look better not because of any revolutionary gameplay improvements. And from what I can gather gameplay isn't exactly better with VR, sometimes it's completely non-existent.

I'll buy into VR when the tech is at a level where it sells itself to me. Horses for courses.
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Old 17-10-2016, 15:33
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I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view?.
Graphics will improve. For example, Bound will run at native 4K in VR mode on PS4 Pro, backed up with improved shadows and the addition of volumetric lighting. Even though the screen is 1080p, the supersampling of that 4K image should give a very nice final result.

Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support.
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Old 17-10-2016, 15:46
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Graphics will improve. For example, Bound will run at native 4K in VR mode on PS4 Pro, backed up with improved shadows and the addition of volumetric lighting. Even though the screen is 1080p, supersampling that 4K image should give a very nice final result.

Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support.
That game actually looks like the Lawnmower Man.....from 1992!!
The game has very little in the way of gfx tbh, surely there's very little point in rendering something in 4K for a 1080p screen? Other than the fact it sounds good to make those claims of course.
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Old 17-10-2016, 15:56
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Graphics will improve. For example, Bound will run at native 4K in VR mode on PS4 Pro, backed up with improved shadows and the addition of volumetric lighting. Even though the screen is 1080p, the supersampling of that 4K image should give a very nice final result.

Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support.
You actually believe the Pro is going to make a VR headset that is currently producing graphical fidelity somewhere between good PS2/poor PS3 suddenly make the jump to 4K?

You are the sort of consumer Sony loves.
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Old 17-10-2016, 16:52
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You actually believe the Pro is going to make a VR headset that is currently producing graphical fidelity somewhere between good PS2/poor PS3 suddenly make the jump to 4K?

You are the sort of consumer Sony loves.
First of all.... LOL.

Secondly, Bound in VR already runs at 2688x1512 on the standard PS4. Moving to 4K won't be an issue.

That game actually looks like the Lawnmower Man.....from 1992!!
The game has very little in the way of gfx tbh, surely there's very little point in rendering something in 4K for a 1080p screen? Other than the fact it sounds good to make those claims of course.
Ever wondered why CGI movies don't have jaggies, or distant objects don't desolve into a pixelated mess on a 1080p Blu-ray or even a 720x576 DVD? It's because the original image is created at a much higher resolution and downsampled. This is a similar principle and will have a positive effect on image quality.
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Old 17-10-2016, 18:28
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First of all.... LOL.

Secondly, Bound in VR already runs at 2688x1512 on the standard PS4. Moving to 4K won't be an issue.
You didn't really address my point. The issue is not with the PS4 but with the headset, that is simply not producing graphics of the quality the screenshots seem to suggest - largely because they were captured from a PS4 and not a headset. A PS Pro is not going to solve that problem.

I finally did get to try the PSVR at a friend's house and while it is impressive kit, is it £400+ impressive? For me, no. Some Google Cardboard titles like VR Noir and Chair in a Room are very impressive, and the upcoming Google Daydream is going to improve on that standard even further, with proper head tracking. The PSVR (plus accessories) costs over twenty times as much as a standard Google Cardboard, yet by no stretch of the imagination does it offer an experience twenty times as immersive, and certainly not twenty times graphically impressive.
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Old 17-10-2016, 19:08
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?

What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D?
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Old 17-10-2016, 19:11
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?

What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D?
a friend plays SW Battlefront on it (with us in a party) and loves it.
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Old 17-10-2016, 19:11
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Seems to be mixed reviews from you guys

I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view?

Also anyone planning to trade in their PSVR CEX are offering £420 cash instore (selling it at £500), I'm assuming the trade in price will go down very soon when stock is back up.
The reddit posts on VR are overwhelming positive.
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Old 17-10-2016, 19:14
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a friend plays SW Battlefront on it (with us in a party) and loves it.
Is that the Non VR version? Do they get 3D and Headmovement?

I've played Battlefield 3 on PS3 with Non VR but 3D goggles and it was very good.

But it was lower resolution and also because of lack of headmovement I couldn't look around without using the joypad.

I've also got COD Black Ops which does have native 3D, but causes motion sickness even though the 3D is very good.
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Old 17-10-2016, 19:16
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You didn't really address my point. The issue is not with the PS4 but with the headset, that is simply not producing graphics of the quality the screenshots seem to suggest - largely because they were captured from a PS4 and not a headset. A PS Pro is not going to solve that problem.

I finally did get to try the PSVR at a friend's house and while it is impressive kit, is it £400+ impressive? For me, no. Some Google Cardboard titles like VR Noir and Chair in a Room are very impressive, and the upcoming Google Daydream is going to improve on that standard even further, with proper head tracking. The PSVR (plus accessories) costs over twenty times as much as a standard Google Cardboard, yet by no stretch of the imagination does it offer an experience twenty times as immersive, and certainly not twenty times graphically impressive.
I think there is some truth in what FF said. I compared Driveclub VR to the non VR version in cinema mode and to the non VR version on my TV. The standard version on to is by far the best fidelity. The cinema mode is not as good but still not too bad. The pure VR version is, in my opinion, unplayable due to the poor image. Now the image quality on the VR version and the cinema mode should be pretty similar but since the cinema mode is downsampled from from the standard version the quality surpasses the VR version.

It's clear that a game on PSVR is always going to be worse quality then the standard due to limitations of the screen but it also seems clear that the image can be improved if the PS4 allows it.
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Old 17-10-2016, 21:33
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I think there is some truth in what FF said. I compared Driveclub VR to the non VR version in cinema mode and to the non VR version on my TV. The standard version on to is by far the best fidelity. The cinema mode is not as good but still not too bad. The pure VR version is, in my opinion, unplayable due to the poor image. Now the image quality on the VR version and the cinema mode should be pretty similar but since the cinema mode is downsampled from from the standard version the quality surpasses the VR version.

It's clear that a game on PSVR is always going to be worse quality then the standard due to limitations of the screen but it also seems clear that the image can be improved if the PS4 allows it.
No doubt the image can be improved. I'm simply rightly casting doubt on the assertion that the Pro will make PSVR games look like 4K. It's not going to happen.
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Old 17-10-2016, 21:43
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No doubt the image can be improved. I'm simply rightly casting doubt on the assertion that the Pro will make PSVR games look like 4K. It's not going to happen.
Yes I do agree with that
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Old 17-10-2016, 22:03
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?

What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D?
Non-VR games play as normal (No head tracking in the game) & are displayed on a virtual giant screen within the VR headset & look significantly worse than they would on a regular TV due to the lower resolution.

The dashboard is displayed the same way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDiZ_u-1Lt4
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Old 18-10-2016, 01:38
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No doubt the image can be improved. I'm simply rightly casting doubt on the assertion that the Pro will make PSVR games look like 4K. It's not going to happen.
Nobody ever said it would.
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Old 18-10-2016, 07:32
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Nobody ever said it would.
Wow you have a short-term memory... just earlier you said it would run at native 4K on PSVR!
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Old 18-10-2016, 07:54
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I'm sure it has a 'wow factor' but I'm not certain I want to spend much time in world that resembles something from the Lawnmower Man, that's why I'm sceptical and I'm sure that's why some people haven't been blown away by it.
As a gamer of over 30 years it can't be underestimated how much GFX are a big part of gaming and I've enjoyed the progression so why regress? People can bleat on all they want about gameplay but the simple fact is everyone buys the new generation consoles because the games will look better not because of any revolutionary gameplay improvements. And from what I can gather gameplay isn't exactly better with VR, sometimes it's completely non-existent.

I'll buy into VR when the tech is at a level where it sells itself to me. Horses for courses.
I don't buy games because they look better. If anything the lack of innovation has recently put me off gaMing I would rather poor graphics and good gameplay with something different. PC gaming does this very well. Console gaming not so
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Old 18-10-2016, 08:06
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I don't buy games because they look better. If anything the lack of innovation has recently put me off gaMing I would rather poor graphics and good gameplay with something different. PC gaming does this very well. Console gaming not so
I'd say you are in the minority considering the number of remastered games released. People are actually playing the exact same games just because they look better.
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Old 18-10-2016, 08:28
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I'd say you are in the minority considering the number of remastered games released. People are actually playing the exact same games just because they look better.
Or maybe people got rid of their original consoles these games run on, but enjoyed the game so much they wanted to replay it...or a new generation of gamers have heard of these games and also wanted to play them.

Graphics are for superficial gamers, gameplay is more important.
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