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Just because you can afford something doesn't make it logical to buy it lol. I could afford to buy two PSVR as well but haven't even bought one as not sold on it yet.
I'd gladly drop loads of money on new tech. I love shiny new gadgets too. |
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It doesnt work properly without the wire. If i bought a couch and the dog eat the cushion yes i can still sit on it but its uncomfortable. Id buy another identical one take the cushions off and hope replacements cushions become available.
Given that the dog has already eaten your cable, if it ate the cushion as well i would probably get a new dog, would work out cheaper in the long-run! |
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Given that the dog has already eaten your cable, if it ate the cushion as well i would probably get a new dog, would work out cheaper in the long-run!
Agree with the post above, what people spend their money is purely their business. Whilst VR isn't for me in its current state, a few years down the line when maybe wireless VR is possible at a consumer friendly price, with better resolution, I'll be in. |
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So, who do you think is the best person at Sony to contact to complain about the softness of the lenses and the fact that they are not going to last very long for anyone using with glasses? After the first few hours of use, my PSVR had several scratches on with one that is particularly visible in certain situations.
They sold this to me with the understanding that this was suitable for people to use whilst wearing their glasses. However, they have not provided anything in the design to stop your glasses lenses from touching the VR unit's lenses. All it needed was a small spacer that could be inserted around the edge of the lenses to prevent contact. My PSVR is effectively permanently destroyed after the first session and it's only going to get worse with no solution to protect the lenses. Any ideas? |
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Seems to be mixed reviews from you guys
I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view? Also anyone planning to trade in their PSVR CEX are offering £420 cash instore (selling it at £500), I'm assuming the trade in price will go down very soon when stock is back up. |
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As long time gamer i think the new Sony VR is amazing. It certainly has the wow factor which was missing from last generation of machines. For the people playing it down on here, what were you really expecting exactly? I think Red Dwarf style ' better than life' games and groinal attachments are still a few years down the line.
![]() So far highlights for me include the brilliant Kitchen demo, the Playroom VR, Batman and Arkham VR, but best of all is the London heist game in VR Worlds - From the great shoot out in the van to the amazing interactions such as being able to smoke a cigar and exhale. ![]() They definitely need to make a full game of this one. It would be the best game ever. |
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#857 |
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As long time gamer i think the new Sony VR is amazing. It certainly has the wow factor which was missing from last generation of machines. For the people playing it down on here, what were you really expecting exactly? I think Red Dwarf style ' better than life' games and groinal attachments are still a few years down the line.
![]() So far highlights for me include the brilliant Kitchen demo, the Playroom VR, Batman and Arkham VR, but best of all is the London heist game in VR Worlds - From the great shoot out in the van to the amazing interactions such as being able to smoke a cigar and exhale. ![]() They definitely need to make a full game of this one. It would be the best game ever. As a gamer of over 30 years it can't be underestimated how much GFX are a big part of gaming and I've enjoyed the progression so why regress? People can bleat on all they want about gameplay but the simple fact is everyone buys the new generation consoles because the games will look better not because of any revolutionary gameplay improvements. And from what I can gather gameplay isn't exactly better with VR, sometimes it's completely non-existent. I'll buy into VR when the tech is at a level where it sells itself to me. Horses for courses. |
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I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view?.
Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support. |
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Graphics will improve. For example, Bound will run at native 4K in VR mode on PS4 Pro, backed up with improved shadows and the addition of volumetric lighting. Even though the screen is 1080p, supersampling that 4K image should give a very nice final result.
Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support. ![]() The game has very little in the way of gfx tbh, surely there's very little point in rendering something in 4K for a 1080p screen? Other than the fact it sounds good to make those claims of course. |
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Graphics will improve. For example, Bound will run at native 4K in VR mode on PS4 Pro, backed up with improved shadows and the addition of volumetric lighting. Even though the screen is 1080p, the supersampling of that 4K image should give a very nice final result.
Playstation VR Worlds already received its Pro patch, and a number of other titles have already confirmed support. You are the sort of consumer Sony loves. |
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You actually believe the Pro is going to make a VR headset that is currently producing graphical fidelity somewhere between good PS2/poor PS3 suddenly make the jump to 4K?
You are the sort of consumer Sony loves. Secondly, Bound in VR already runs at 2688x1512 on the standard PS4. Moving to 4K won't be an issue. Quote:
That game actually looks like the Lawnmower Man.....from 1992!!
![]() The game has very little in the way of gfx tbh, surely there's very little point in rendering something in 4K for a 1080p screen? Other than the fact it sounds good to make those claims of course. |
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First of all.... LOL.
Secondly, Bound in VR already runs at 2688x1512 on the standard PS4. Moving to 4K won't be an issue. I finally did get to try the PSVR at a friend's house and while it is impressive kit, is it £400+ impressive? For me, no. Some Google Cardboard titles like VR Noir and Chair in a Room are very impressive, and the upcoming Google Daydream is going to improve on that standard even further, with proper head tracking. The PSVR (plus accessories) costs over twenty times as much as a standard Google Cardboard, yet by no stretch of the imagination does it offer an experience twenty times as immersive, and certainly not twenty times graphically impressive. |
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?
What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D? |
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?
What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D? |
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Seems to be mixed reviews from you guys
I'm still waiting for the PS Pro before deciding to invest in VR, anyone have any ideas if it will improve graphics on the headset or is the headset limited to what you can view? Also anyone planning to trade in their PSVR CEX are offering £420 cash instore (selling it at £500), I'm assuming the trade in price will go down very soon when stock is back up. |
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a friend plays SW Battlefront on it (with us in a party) and loves it.
I've played Battlefield 3 on PS3 with Non VR but 3D goggles and it was very good. But it was lower resolution and also because of lack of headmovement I couldn't look around without using the joypad. I've also got COD Black Ops which does have native 3D, but causes motion sickness even though the 3D is very good. |
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You didn't really address my point. The issue is not with the PS4 but with the headset, that is simply not producing graphics of the quality the screenshots seem to suggest - largely because they were captured from a PS4 and not a headset. A PS Pro is not going to solve that problem.
I finally did get to try the PSVR at a friend's house and while it is impressive kit, is it £400+ impressive? For me, no. Some Google Cardboard titles like VR Noir and Chair in a Room are very impressive, and the upcoming Google Daydream is going to improve on that standard even further, with proper head tracking. The PSVR (plus accessories) costs over twenty times as much as a standard Google Cardboard, yet by no stretch of the imagination does it offer an experience twenty times as immersive, and certainly not twenty times graphically impressive. It's clear that a game on PSVR is always going to be worse quality then the standard due to limitations of the screen but it also seems clear that the image can be improved if the PS4 allows it. |
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I think there is some truth in what FF said. I compared Driveclub VR to the non VR version in cinema mode and to the non VR version on my TV. The standard version on to is by far the best fidelity. The cinema mode is not as good but still not too bad. The pure VR version is, in my opinion, unplayable due to the poor image. Now the image quality on the VR version and the cinema mode should be pretty similar but since the cinema mode is downsampled from from the standard version the quality surpasses the VR version.
It's clear that a game on PSVR is always going to be worse quality then the standard due to limitations of the screen but it also seems clear that the image can be improved if the PS4 allows it. |
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No doubt the image can be improved. I'm simply rightly casting doubt on the assertion that the Pro will make PSVR games look like 4K. It's not going to happen.
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Can you use the VR to play Non VR Battlefield?
What resolution would you get and would you get head movement and 3D? The dashboard is displayed the same way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDiZ_u-1Lt4 |
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No doubt the image can be improved. I'm simply rightly casting doubt on the assertion that the Pro will make PSVR games look like 4K. It's not going to happen.
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Nobody ever said it would.
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I'm sure it has a 'wow factor' but I'm not certain I want to spend much time in world that resembles something from the Lawnmower Man, that's why I'm sceptical and I'm sure that's why some people haven't been blown away by it.
As a gamer of over 30 years it can't be underestimated how much GFX are a big part of gaming and I've enjoyed the progression so why regress? People can bleat on all they want about gameplay but the simple fact is everyone buys the new generation consoles because the games will look better not because of any revolutionary gameplay improvements. And from what I can gather gameplay isn't exactly better with VR, sometimes it's completely non-existent. I'll buy into VR when the tech is at a level where it sells itself to me. Horses for courses. |
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I don't buy games because they look better. If anything the lack of innovation has recently put me off gaMing I would rather poor graphics and good gameplay with something different. PC gaming does this very well. Console gaming not so
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I'd say you are in the minority considering the number of remastered games released. People are actually playing the exact same games just because they look better.
Graphics are for superficial gamers, gameplay is more important. |
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