Is it time for an alternative OS to Android?

linkinpark875 · 25-02-2014, 22:53

At the moment there's very few alternatives and I see Nokia even moved to Android. Who can blame them as Windows phone was always going to be terrible. What I mean is a new OS not silly tiles like Windows but one build to offer the best of Android and IOS.

I'd much prefer to see manufacturers go back to individual software for each handset. For example Sony should be able to come up with something better than what they have now. Samsung use to have Bada OS and the Pixon phone range was always better looking than the Galaxy.

If Samsung want to take on Apple they should ditch the tried Galaxy name. Sounds like a bar of chocolate or something from space. The curved edges are so early 2000's. Look how much sleeker the Pixon 12 was: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_m891...review-367.php

Sadly another year of Android clones awaits and a long wait until Iphone 6. Apple need not worry the Iphone 5S is more than up to the job rather than the cheap plastic S5.

jabbamk1 · 25-02-2014, 22:58

Bring back Symbian and I'll be happy.

linkinpark875 · 25-02-2014, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

Bring back Symbian and I'll be happy.

It was hopeless past the Nokia N95. It just never kept up.

qasdfdsaq · 25-02-2014, 23:26

I loved it too until forced to take up Android.

Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second.

alan1302 · 25-02-2014, 23:29

In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason.

jabbamk1 · 25-02-2014, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan1302

In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason.

How so?

Zack06 · 25-02-2014, 23:33

It will be hard to stop Android at this point. It has 80% of the global market. Windows Phone has been struggling even to start up and it has been out for 4 years now. Blackberry is all but dead, WebOS and Symbian were killed off years ago and iOS is starting to crack under the pressure.

The only threat/competitor to Android, one that Google is very scared about, comes from within itself. Android forks. Amazon's Kindle OS is a fork of Android and has become very successful without Google's input, Xiaomi uses MIUI, a variant of Android and now Nokia is trying it with their X devices.

However this competition can only come from non-OHA manufacturers, so even then it's still only a small possibility. Once Google achieves a full grip on Android devices with their own services prevailing, which they are close to doing, then I think the so called "smartphone wars" will have been won.

alan1302 · 25-02-2014, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

How so?

LinkiinPark spouting off as he always does in his threads without any sensible discussion

sethpet · 25-02-2014, 23:38

Aye this thread is nothing more than an IOS fan boy on a troll session.

Stiggles · 25-02-2014, 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethpet

Aye this thread is nothing more than an IOS fan boy on a troll session.

Correct.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he did this exact thread last year.

If he wants clones, he should look at iOS which has barely changed since 2007!!

Stiggles · 25-02-2014, 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I loved it too until forced to take up Android.

Forced? I'm pretty sure you were never forced!!

Quote:

Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second.

And why exactly would anyone want to do that?

qasdfdsaq · 25-02-2014, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

Forced? I'm pretty sure you were never forced!!

You don't know my wifel

Quote:

And why exactly would anyone want to do that?

Well for one you could see exactly how much power each app, feature, or radio was using down to the second.

Three · 26-02-2014, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I loved it too until forced to take up Android.

Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second.

Not many consumers give a toss about low-level hardware readings.

linkinpark875 · 26-02-2014, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

Correct.

In fact, I'm pretty sure he did this exact thread last year.

If he wants clones, he should look at iOS which has barely changed since 2007!!

This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software.

linkinpark875 · 26-02-2014, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan1302

In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason.

I would have thought its because tablets are outselling pcs these days.

Stiggles · 26-02-2014, 01:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software.

Yes it is. You made it about Android and iOS the second you decided to start your usual nonsense slagging other OS's off and putting iOS on a pedestal is doesn't even remotely deserve.

So, you want every phone to have a different OS? I think that's the single most stupid thing i have ever seen from anyone on here in a very long time.

First, what is the point?

Second, you expect devs to write apps for every single variation of OS and also make it cross platform?

qasdfdsaq · 26-02-2014, 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Three

Not many consumers give a toss about low-level hardware readings.

Not many consumers give a toss what OS capabilities their phone has to begin with...

linkinpark875 · 26-02-2014, 01:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stiggles

Yes it is. You made it about Android and iOS the second you decided to start your usual nonsense slagging other OS's off and putting iOS on a pedestal is doesn't even remotely deserve.

So, you want every phone to have a different OS? I think that's the single most stupid thing i have ever seen from anyone on here in a very long time.

First, what is the point?

Second, you expect devs to write apps for every single variation of OS and also make it cross platform?

It's so stupid only six years ago every phone did have its own os? Samsung had different software to LG for example.

It's just some people are pro Android fans here.

Stiggles · 26-02-2014, 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

It's so stupid only six years ago every phone did have its own os? Samsung had different software to LG for example.

It's just some people are pro Android fans here.

What the hell does pro Android have to do with anything here? You started a thread berating Android and Windows OS, yet putting iOS up there as the best, which is is no where near these days.

Yes, years ago there was a plethora of OS's and it was frankly a mess. There is absolutely no reason now to add more mobile OS's to the market.

Oh, and if that pro Android was directed at me, it shows how clueless you are. I don't do brand loyalty. If Apple made a decent sized screen phone and let me change the way i view my home screens, then i would have another.

As it stands, its still the same boring OS it was in 2007 with the same bland look which cannot be changed. With Android for me at the moment, i can have a great and functional OS which i can change and customise MY way with my choice of hardware. Again something lacking with apple.

dreamycreamy · 26-02-2014, 02:48

What's wrong with what Sony have now? Its Android but they put their own stamp on it unlike Samsung's stock skin. Now that is ugly.

prking · 26-02-2014, 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by jabbamk1

How so?

Because the forum is full of trolling and lost any sense of proper discussion ages ago?

scooby1970 · 26-02-2014, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamycreamy

What's wrong with what Sony have now? Its Android but they put their own stamp on it unlike Samsung's stock skin. Now that is ugly.

Samsung don't use stock Android, they use TouchWiz which has its merits the same as any other overlay. It's no more uglier than Sonys, only it's a little different and different to stock Android. Now if you'd used the Nexus range of phones that run vanilla Android, it would have made more sense.

. Mark

BKM · 26-02-2014, 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software.

At least one review of the Samsung S5 said that some people had expected it to be based on the Tizen OS - rather than Android!

What is Tizen? This is the first time I have seen it mentioned. If it was a serious contender for a new version of popular phone it must be almost ready to go!

Ignite · 26-02-2014, 10:05

Firefox OS http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/
Ubuntu Phone http://www.ubuntu.com/phone
There are other OS's coming onto the market. Give it time and it will be interesting to see what happens.

gomezz · 26-02-2014, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

Windows phone was always going to be terrible.

A false premise that makes the rest of your argument redundant.

25-02-2014, 22:53	#1
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Is it time for an alternative OS to Android? At the moment there's very few alternatives and I see Nokia even moved to Android. Who can blame them as Windows phone was always going to be terrible. What I mean is a new OS not silly tiles like Windows but one build to offer the best of Android and IOS. I'd much prefer to see manufacturers go back to individual software for each handset. For example Sony should be able to come up with something better than what they have now. Samsung use to have Bada OS and the Pixon phone range was always better looking than the Galaxy. If Samsung want to take on Apple they should ditch the tried Galaxy name. Sounds like a bar of chocolate or something from space. The curved edges are so early 2000's. Look how much sleeker the Pixon 12 was: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_m891...review-367.php Sadly another year of Android clones awaits and a long wait until Iphone 6. Apple need not worry the Iphone 5S is more than up to the job rather than the cheap plastic S5.

25-02-2014, 22:58	#2
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Bring back Symbian and I'll be happy.

25-02-2014, 23:11	#3
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 Bring back Symbian and I'll be happy. It was hopeless past the Nokia N95. It just never kept up.

25-02-2014, 23:26	#4
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	I loved it too until forced to take up Android. Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second.

25-02-2014, 23:29	#5
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason.

25-02-2014, 23:31	#6
jabbamk1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, UK Posts: 8,759	Quote: Originally Posted by alan1302 In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason. How so?

25-02-2014, 23:33	#7
Zack06 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 27,438	It will be hard to stop Android at this point. It has 80% of the global market. Windows Phone has been struggling even to start up and it has been out for 4 years now. Blackberry is all but dead, WebOS and Symbian were killed off years ago and iOS is starting to crack under the pressure. The only threat/competitor to Android, one that Google is very scared about, comes from within itself. Android forks. Amazon's Kindle OS is a fork of Android and has become very successful without Google's input, Xiaomi uses MIUI, a variant of Android and now Nokia is trying it with their X devices. However this competition can only come from non-OHA manufacturers, so even then it's still only a small possibility. Once Google achieves a full grip on Android devices with their own services prevailing, which they are close to doing, then I think the so called "smartphone wars" will have been won.

25-02-2014, 23:34	#8
alan1302 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: West Yorks Posts: 6,180	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 How so? LinkiinPark spouting off as he always does in his threads without any sensible discussion

25-02-2014, 23:38	#9
sethpet Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 494	Aye this thread is nothing more than an IOS fan boy on a troll session.

25-02-2014, 23:42	#10
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by sethpet Aye this thread is nothing more than an IOS fan boy on a troll session. Correct. In fact, I'm pretty sure he did this exact thread last year. If he wants clones, he should look at iOS which has barely changed since 2007!!

25-02-2014, 23:45	#11
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq I loved it too until forced to take up Android. Forced? I'm pretty sure you were never forced!! Quote: Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second. And why exactly would anyone want to do that?

25-02-2014, 23:57	#12
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Forced? I'm pretty sure you were never forced!! You don't know my wifel Quote: And why exactly would anyone want to do that? Well for one you could see exactly how much power each app, feature, or radio was using down to the second.

26-02-2014, 00:04	#13
Three Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,114	Quote: Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq I loved it too until forced to take up Android. Aside from the lack of built-in app store there was very little Symbian couldn't do. It even gave more access to low-level hardware readings than Android, such as real-time current draw readings precise to 0.1mA four times a second. Not many consumers give a toss about low-level hardware readings.

26-02-2014, 01:04	#14
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Correct. In fact, I'm pretty sure he did this exact thread last year. If he wants clones, he should look at iOS which has barely changed since 2007!! This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software.

26-02-2014, 01:05	#15
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by alan1302 In the PC forum someone asked why less people see to be on the forum - threads like this is one reason. I would have thought its because tablets are outselling pcs these days.

26-02-2014, 01:21	#16
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software. Yes it is. You made it about Android and iOS the second you decided to start your usual nonsense slagging other OS's off and putting iOS on a pedestal is doesn't even remotely deserve. So, you want every phone to have a different OS? I think that's the single most stupid thing i have ever seen from anyone on here in a very long time. First, what is the point? Second, you expect devs to write apps for every single variation of OS and also make it cross platform?

26-02-2014, 01:25	#17
qasdfdsaq Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,286	Quote: Originally Posted by Three Not many consumers give a toss about low-level hardware readings. Not many consumers give a toss what OS capabilities their phone has to begin with...

26-02-2014, 01:29	#18
linkinpark875 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 24,424	Quote: Originally Posted by Stiggles Yes it is. You made it about Android and iOS the second you decided to start your usual nonsense slagging other OS's off and putting iOS on a pedestal is doesn't even remotely deserve. So, you want every phone to have a different OS? I think that's the single most stupid thing i have ever seen from anyone on here in a very long time. First, what is the point? Second, you expect devs to write apps for every single variation of OS and also make it cross platform? It's so stupid only six years ago every phone did have its own os? Samsung had different software to LG for example. It's just some people are pro Android fans here.

26-02-2014, 01:49	#19
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 It's so stupid only six years ago every phone did have its own os? Samsung had different software to LG for example. It's just some people are pro Android fans here. What the hell does pro Android have to do with anything here? You started a thread berating Android and Windows OS, yet putting iOS up there as the best, which is is no where near these days. Yes, years ago there was a plethora of OS's and it was frankly a mess. There is absolutely no reason now to add more mobile OS's to the market. Oh, and if that pro Android was directed at me, it shows how clueless you are. I don't do brand loyalty. If Apple made a decent sized screen phone and let me change the way i view my home screens, then i would have another. As it stands, its still the same boring OS it was in 2007 with the same bland look which cannot be changed. With Android for me at the moment, i can have a great and functional OS which i can change and customise MY way with my choice of hardware. Again something lacking with apple.

26-02-2014, 02:48	#20
dreamycreamy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Behind you! Posts: 1,524	What's wrong with what Sony have now? Its Android but they put their own stamp on it unlike Samsung's stock skin. Now that is ugly.

26-02-2014, 07:16	#21
prking Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Weston-super-Mare Posts: 9,167	Quote: Originally Posted by jabbamk1 How so? Because the forum is full of trolling and lost any sense of proper discussion ages ago?

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26-02-2014, 08:52	#22
scooby1970 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Neath Posts: 2,468	Quote: Originally Posted by dreamycreamy What's wrong with what Sony have now? Its Android but they put their own stamp on it unlike Samsung's stock skin. Now that is ugly. Samsung don't use stock Android, they use TouchWiz which has its merits the same as any other overlay. It's no more uglier than Sonys, only it's a little different and different to stock Android. Now if you'd used the Nexus range of phones that run vanilla Android, it would have made more sense. . Mark

26-02-2014, 09:15	#23
BKM Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,288	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 This thread is not about Android or IOS it's about new alternative software. At least one review of the Samsung S5 said that some people had expected it to be based on the Tizen OS - rather than Android! What is Tizen? This is the first time I have seen it mentioned. If it was a serious contender for a new version of popular phone it must be almost ready to go!

26-02-2014, 10:05	#24
Ignite Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 1,709	Firefox OS http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/ Ubuntu Phone http://www.ubuntu.com/phone There are other OS's coming onto the market. Give it time and it will be interesting to see what happens.

26-02-2014, 10:08	#25
gomezz Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buckingham Posts: 28,590	Quote: Originally Posted by linkinpark875 Windows phone was always going to be terrible. A false premise that makes the rest of your argument redundant.