Now the idea came for this thread because I have a particular gripe that I have to share but couldn't find the appropriate thread. And its such a petty insignificant moan in the grand scheme of things.

So I thought why not start s thread where anyone can post those silly irritating things about the show or an episode that no one else probably cares about but serve as a constant annoyance to you. Anything!

For me its the use of photos and screenshots in Doctor Who. Most noticeably throughout S6.

Now I realise that when they use stock footage of the Doctors it has to be from episodes and it doesn't ever grate because well it is what it is. But throughout S6 we have the Doctor and the Tesselecta viewing a file picture of the Doctor with the date of his death on it that is clearly a promo photo from the show! And then in Closing Time they show the files of the children who remembered seeing the doctor and they do it again! The pictures are of the kids in the scene when they saw the Doctor! But no one had a camera! Its just a lazy production point but it gets me everytime. I know. I'll keep taking the meds. Annoying though!

When an outgoing doctor acts like he's being replaced with someone else. both 10 and 11 did it in different way's. 10 with his conversation with wilf where he said it feel's like dying, and then the big "I dont wanna go" and then 11 with his 'he's a coming' line which someone wouldn't normally say about themselves. He is supposed to be the exact same man with a slightly altered surface personality, yet lines like those above seem to water down this concept, and could easily make a casual viewer believe he has changed into a different person.

Eccleston's 'maybe I will, but not like this' or even the war doctors 'I hope the ears are a little less conspicuous this time' show how it should be done because these are both lines where the doctor acknowledges that it he'll still be him after the change.

Well, we know that the Doctor sometimes doesn't feel like himself after he regenerates ... it goes all the way back to Power of the Daleks ep 1, when he was referring to 'the Doctor' in the third person and checking the magic mirror to verify his own identity.

I don't mind a little weirdness after the regeneration, because that is an established side effect and is to be expected, but I was talking about how he sometimes act's in this way before he regenerates, when he knows full well he'll still be him afterwards so it seems strange for him to act in this way.

And there's me thinking I was all alone! I nearly started a thread on this subject after The Day of the Doctor when they are in the Black Archive. All the posters plastered over the walls are quite clearly promo pics. Yes I know that's all they had officially but a little photoshopping (other editing software is available) and imagination could have actually made a great scene unique.

My very minor irritation is in The Wedding of River Song, in the park the sign reads Do Not Feed the Pterodactyls when the picture shows and the vermin is Pteranodon

If a regeneration was as easy as just slipping on a new outfit, there'd be no dramatic tension for the viewer.
"Oh, I'm dying, oh well time for a new face ho ho ho"

Hardly the stuff 3 months or more of build up is based upon

My own petty gripe in the look of both the TARDIS itself (which I feel is far too blue compared to how it SHOULD look (IE the pre HD 2005/2009 era) and the dematerialisation effect, which they've cheaped out on in recent seasons instead of the skin warp effect you got in 2005+
(TBH there was a Doctor Who confidential where they experimented with a few different effects and I thought they all looked better than the slightly underwhelming fade out effect.
Just because all they could manage in 1963 was a fade between 2 camera shots doesn't mean we should be limited by that now. Even the TV Movie tried to jazz it up a bit!)

Told you, petty as hell

Speaking of day of the doctor, I find it a little weird that kate stewart's phone has on it a ringtone that was created in our real world as a form of merchandise for the show. How was she supposed to have gotten that ringtone.. Are we supposed to believe she oddly had the urge to stand there with her arm out recording his engine sound's one of the times he was arriving or leaving. Not saying she wouldn't have done that, just seems a little odd that she would.

oh yeah, I don't think regeneration is easy, or that it shouldn't be dramatic. I just don't think he should act like he won't be him anymore when he's been through it many times before and knows he will. The eccleston regeneration was dramatic and a big deal, yet he still seemed clear that he'd still be him afterwards.

Yep! I was biting my tongue in the Black Archive to. It could be easily remedied as you say! And when the pictures were front and centre as they were in S6 it just seemed lazy.

But that was just how that Doctor looked at it, probably because he felt he had to be brave for Rose.

Completely new man, new thought process about facing regeneration each time.

But this is the "Minor irritation" thread, not the "thread for the road well traveled"

Then obviously it's ok to feed them and the discerning timemash people of that particular specific time can tell the difference

The Doctor has been know to UNIT for the best part of 40 years and has materialized inside and out of UNIT several times. Fairly sure they have complete details on several surface aspects of the TARDIS, especially the engine sound given that it generally signifies the Doctor's arrival. Fairly important sound to recognize.

Heck, if they can detect artron energy, it makes sense that they have the sound in one of their many data files!

Again another 'Day of the Doctor' reference, but Elevens comment to Ten about 'What you get up to in the privacy of your regeneration is your business' implies to me that the Doctor views each incarnation as say volumes of a book series, each has their own different stories and tones but ultimately are still him.

I think it also comes down to the circumstances of that incarnations end. Nine and War were happy to go mainly due to the guilt the both held and were hoping they were going to be a better Doctor because of the change. Ten & Eleven on the other hand were happier as they were and feel that the next Doctor won't be them like they are now. So they reflect this in the way they refer to the next as a different person.

Not everyone will like that as an explanation, but it is my take on it

Fire at will!

But back to gripes. Martha looking at the camera in 'Journeys End' annoys me everytime! Just a slight change of angle so it actually looks like she's looking at another character would be so much better!!!

I know what you mean but I've always accepted that the camera is the Doctor's POV and she's smiling at him!

Oswin Oswald does the same thing in asylum of the daleks When she say's remember to the doctor, she briefly looks at the camera to imply that we should remember her also. But yeah, breaking the fourth wall in a contained drama is a bit of a no-no.

That one on the other hand doesn't. Maybe because as you say its a plot point or just that she doesn't put a stupid grin on with it. And people say the most stupid part of the episode is when the Tardis is towing Earth home, but that beats it everytime for me.

In drama and in the right context breaking the fourth wall can work but not here.

i like the Oswin one because it plays into the plot. It isn't just the Doctor but the audience that need to remember her.

The Martha one is pointless and whether it was a mistake that was left in or not it just adds to the slightly 'arent we all amazing?' collective back slapping that scene represents. Which was of course well earned. I imagine many love it. But for me it takes me out of the moment and seems like a wrap party rather than a decent scene.

as you say breaking the fourth wall totally works when required. Witness House of Cards- both the original and remake- where the protagonists asides to the audience are an integral and brilliant part of the story.

Space Badgers.

And the bizzaro world FMs that seem to object to anything that might be fun.

We've never seen the Doctor put anything INTO his wardrobe, rather we've only seen him (and companions) take stuff out.

I would second the minor irritation of promo shots being used. They did the same with Rose, Martha and Donna in Let's Kill Hitler which was a bit off-putting, particularly the Rose one as the shots in question are so staged they are nothing like the character you remember. Dinosaurs on a Spaceship had that fridge postcard at the end as well, which photoshopped in some promo shots from Walking with Dinosaurs (the pedant in me recalls it was an Ankylosaurus). There's nothing like a 2012 show using an image from an (admittedly impressive) show whose computer effects came from 1998.

The other one is The End of Time: Part Two, though it's more of a self-fulfilled irritation. The episode seemed to close by referencing every character that had meant something across the RTD era and closed by referencing the start of Rose's journey in 2005. "I bet you're gonna have a really great year", utters Tennant. Why the hell couldn't we have had a nice little nod to Eccleston with a slight line tweak, "I bet this year is gonna be...fantastic!"... just a small nod, recognising the efforts of Eccleston and bringing things full circle (with Tennant even doing something similar in his first full episode, The Christmas Invasion). When I see this scene, I have to resist putting my fingers in my ears just so I can pretend

You will remember her or she will EXTERMINATE you!

Number one irritant for me has to be favorite Doctor polls.

In my opinion there can't be a favorite Doctor. They are all the same man. Yes the persona changes each time he regenerates, but at the core he remains the same Timelord.

Number two - Oh, Daleks didn't fly until the new series. Wrong, wrong utterly wrong. I won't go into whats already been said in another thread, but you get the idea.

Number three - I/We have stopped watching Doctor Who since David Tennant left, it's not the same now.
Well of course it's not the same! Yes, I loved Tennant in the role myself, but he couldn't stay there forever.

Number four - Moffat. Obviously he has had some good ideas, but few ( in my opinion ) has come to fruition. For example River Song, Teselecta and my biggest bug bare The Weeping Angels. They were brilliant and creepy in Blink, but in their subsequent episodes they have been turned into a joke.

Finally five - The haphazard way Doctor Who has been broadcast over the past few years. What with the series splits and the lengthy gaps, it's no wonder some people have lost interest. I just hope that the recent statement from Moffat saying that series eight and beyond won't be split, is correct.

For me, it's those little visual 'a week later', 'London 1892' etc headings inserted 'cleverly' into the scenery, written across a barbecue grill for instance. It's a painfully self-conscious attempt at 'cool' direction. When they first started doing it me and my girlfriend laughed at its rubbishness but now it's really begun to irritate us.

Also: when people talk about how wonderful the special effects are nowadays. They're okay, nothing more. In fact, a lot of the CGI is fairly weak.

And one more visual thing: the appalling promo posters. Seriously, the Photoshopping on most of these is so bad, and some of the fonts are appallingly tacky and badly integrated.

I really miss the background noise of the Tardis that you used to always here in the interior, a sort of gentle background humming is the best I can describe it as. Also there used to be an "in flight" background noise as well.

I don't mind the Doctor seeing a future incarnation as different from himself - after all, he generally feels that way when he meets his past selves.