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Capaldi_Capaldi
28-02-2014
If John Barowman was ever to return the role as Captain Jack, would it be likely to be series 8 or would it be likely to never touch upon the character again.
I have a feeling he may return, The Clues Are;

Clue 1: The Doctor and Clara are in possession of the vortex manipulator (Could this mean anything?)

Clue 2: He did NOT return in the 50th, could this be because he may return again?

I would love to see your opinions on Jack's Return and weather you'd want him to, I'd love to see the chemistry between him and The Twelfth Doctor and Clara.

Possibly as a 3-parter set on Gallifrey with the master?
Corwin
28-02-2014
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
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Clue 2: He did NOT return in the 50th, could this be because he may return again?
”


Lots of former characters were not in the 50th, does that mean they are all coming back?
dmuk
28-02-2014
Would be probably written too sleazily under Moffat tbh
Tom Tit
28-02-2014
Originally Posted by dmuk:
“Would be probably written too sleazily under Moffat tbh”

You mean like in his first appearance in 'The Empty Child', written by Steven Moffat?
bennythedip
01-03-2014
I cannot see Torchwood returning myself.
saladfingers81
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“You mean like in his first appearance in 'The Empty Child', written by Steven Moffat?”

amazing isn't it. Lets not even bother being accurate because its more fun to bash Moffat!
JAS84
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
“Clue 1: The Doctor and Clara are in possession of the vortex manipulator (Could this mean anything?)”

Actually, UNIT has it. If Clara had it, she wouldn't have needed Tasha to pick her up in the TARDIS.
caveatman
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by Tom Tit:
“You mean like in his first appearance in 'The Empty Child', written by Steven Moffat?”

Yikes...a wisecracking, flirty, mysteriously presented, time travelling character, there to bounce off the doctor, but not be dominated storywise by him, if anything, there to both help with a keen mind, but distract/exasperate the Doctor with slightly over played 'cuteness' just as much.

Jack...River Song character type Mark 1 from Moffat.

Kidding. Kind of. Running and hiding. Defintely
Capaldi_Capaldi
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by JAS84:
“Actually, UNIT has it. If Clara had it, she wouldn't have needed Tasha to pick her up in the TARDIS.”

On The Tardis Data Core Wiki it says The Doctor and Clara now have the vortex manipulator and also there was no scene of them giving it back.
adams66
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
“I have a feeling he may return, The Clues Are;

Clue 1: The Doctor and Clara are in possession of the vortex manipulator (Could this mean anything?)

Clue 2: He did NOT return in the 50th, could this be because he may return again?
”

Oddly enough those aren't actually Clues at all.
1. Vortex manipulator? Could this mean anything? No reason why it should.
2. Hrostar the Menoptra didn't return in the 50th - by your logic this means that we are due a return to Vortis! Hooray!
Yartek, leader of the Alien Voord didn't return, etc etc... It means nothing.

A Clue to Jack returning would be something like, oh I don't know... Barrowman being spotted on set...
andy1231
01-03-2014
As I think Torchwood is dead and buried, I would like to see Jack return in Dr Who. How about The Doctor lands the Tardis in Cardiff, to refuel from the rift, not realising that it is no longer there, and finds Jack in the ruins of the Hub, who is endevoring to recover any remains that there may be. That would be a starter for a story.
Shawn_Lunn
01-03-2014
I think Jack's done character wise.
Pull2Open
01-03-2014
I'd be quite happy to see Jack return, I thought it was quite good having a bit of an action man watching the Doctor's back (erm, so to speak!). I don't think he's spent, character wise, there are all sorts of possibilities, it just needs a good writer.
doctor blue box
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by caveatman:
“Yikes...a wisecracking, flirty, mysteriously presented, time travelling character, there to bounce off the doctor, but not be dominated storywise by him, if anything, there to both help with a keen mind, but distract/exasperate the Doctor with slightly over played 'cuteness' just as much.

Jack...River Song character type Mark 1 from Moffat.

Kidding. Kind of. Running and hiding. Defintely ”

This is true, although I still like them both all the same, and it is the reason why it would be so good to see them in the same episode together. You could just imagine a flirting overload, while the companion stand's there bemused and the doc does his best to roll his eye's at both of them.
DJGM
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“How about The Doctor lands the Tardis in Cardiff, to refuel from the rift, not realising that it is
no longer there, and finds Jack in the ruins of the Hub, who is endevoring to recover any
remains that there may be. That would be a starter for a story.
”

I would think The Doctor is already well aware of the rift no longer being there as a result of the Torchwood hub
being destroyed in a huge explosion. If The Doctor still needed to refuel the TARDIS from the rift, he could go
back in time to when the rift was still there prior to the events of Torchwood: Children Of Earth.
doctor blue box
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by andy1231:
“As I think Torchwood is dead and buried, I would like to see Jack return in Dr Who. How about The Doctor lands the Tardis in Cardiff, to refuel from the rift, not realising that it is no longer there, and finds Jack in the ruins of the Hub, who is endevoring to recover any remains that there may be. That would be a starter for a story.”

I like this idea, it sounds like a dark story, which is always good.

I do have to ask though, and maybe I've missed or forgotten something, but why is the rift gone just because the hub is? I thought the rift was much like the cracks, and existed despite what physical matter was or wasn't around it. Also that rift had existed since 1869 way before the hub was ever built.
Corwin
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by doctor blue box:
“I like this idea, it sounds like a dark story, which is always good.

I do have to ask though, and maybe I've missed or forgotten something, but why is the rift gone just because the hub is? I thought the rift was much like the cracks, and existed despite what physical matter was or wasn't around it. Also that rift had existed since 1869 way before the hub was ever built.”

The Rift being gone is nothing to do with the Hub being destroyed.


It was closed in the Torchwood Audio play The House of the Dead.
doctor blue box
01-03-2014
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“The Rift being gone is nothing to do with the Hub being destroyed.


It was closed in the Torchwood Audio play The House of the Dead.”

Oh ok. so, no disrespect to those who like the audio stories but that means that the rift wasn't closed in the show and if they want to use it they could (despite risking the wrath of those who listen to the audios).
Michael_Eve
01-03-2014
I'd rather Jack than Fleetwood Mac. (Spearhead from Space I think?)

Seriously, if someone comes up with a great story idea that suits Captain Jack, why not? Of course that covers any number of characters. Still got my fingers crossed for William Russell, even if it's just a cameo.
Kosciusko
02-03-2014
They could bring captain jack story to an end, full circle

There an explosion, and a certain type of radiation is leaked, and it de stabilises captain jack, and from this we see the face of boe, being born

The planet there on has life saving equipment, which is now given to the face of boe
The_Judge_
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by Kosciusko:
“They could bring captain jack story to an end, full circle

There an explosion, and a certain type of radiation is leaked, and it de stabilises captain jack, and from this we see the face of boe, being born

The planet there on has life saving equipment, which is now given to the face of boe”

More like Jack is beheaded by the Headless Monks, put in a box and like Tom Tit said on another thread, the sands of time just cause him to grow and evolve into the face of Bo.
tiggerpooh
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by Capaldi_Capaldi:
“If John Barowman was ever to return the role as Captain Jack, would it be likely to be series 8 or would it be likely to never touch upon the character again.
I have a feeling he may return, The Clues Are;

Clue 1: The Doctor and Clara are in possession of the vortex manipulator (Could this mean anything?)

Clue 2: He did NOT return in the 50th, could this be because he may return again?

I would love to see your opinions on Jack's Return and weather you'd want him to, I'd love to see the chemistry between him and The Twelfth Doctor and Clara.

Possibly as a 3-parter set on Gallifrey with the master?”

We've already had a 3 parter with Jack and the Master in 2007.
tiggerpooh
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“The Rift being gone is nothing to do with the Hub being destroyed.


It was closed in the Torchwood Audio play The House of the Dead.”

I'm practically saying the same thing as doctor blue box. The Audio's are usually seperate to the TV stories. Not everyone listens to the audios. A lot of people just concentrate on the TV stories.

I don't classify the Audios as being canon, only the TV episodes. A lot of people, apparently feel the same way.

That's the same with the story books. I don't really read those. I've read a few, but not all of them.

So, to me, and a lot of people, if the rift wasn't closed on tv, it's still open.
leopard_print
02-03-2014
Was it ever established that Jack was the Face of Boe? or it just assumption?
doctor blue box
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by leopard_print:
“Was it ever established that Jack was the Face of Boe? or it just assumption?”

i'd say it was strongly implied, more than officially confirmed. Though strongly enough that most people now treat it as fact.
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