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Would be as big a travesty as the result tonight. 2 best skaters in the skate off when Hayley is through
![]() Whatever happens I think that the top two should be Hayley and Ray. I think that the judges are spot on tonight myself! |
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Well it should have been Sam and Beth in the skate off with Beth going. I am no fan of Sam but he is better overall than Beth.
Whatever happens I think that the top two should be Hayley and Ray. I think that the judges are spot on tonight myself! |
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Would be as big a travesty as the result tonight. 2 best skaters in the skate off when Hayley is through
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The catty comments about Hayley on this forum is such hypocrisy based on the venom you gave for Jason.
Sorry but Hayley is much better than Beth. Beth can skate because that's all she can do. She cannot perform at all so just moves around the ice rink, she leaves me so cold.. That's my opinion anyway. |
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Hayley is a more overall package Beth is just a good skater but a very weak dancer and performer .
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Far from being the overall package Hayley can't skate.
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Yes but being a world champion gymnast also helps Beths in the lifts and tricks. It's horses for courses. Ray is a dancer, Beth is a gymnast, Hayley is an actress/dancer so they all have an advantage but in different ways.
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Far from being the overall package Hayley can't skate.
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She clearly can skate people on here just like to see what they want to see.
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Totally agree with this. But it is dancing on ice, this is why it's out of Hayley and Ray for me. Ray is without doubt the best skater but Hayley and Dan make the best partnership for me and this is why they are my winners. But if Ray wins so be it, but I would love for Hayley to be at least 2nd!
If it's dancing on ice, then how come you think Hayley deserves to win? She gets carried around on ice, and when her feet do touch the ice, she's dragged around on ice, occasionally just about managing to swing her arms about at the same time. I'm not quite sure how any of that is "dancing on ice" and if anyone is being voted for for anything other than "dancing on ice", it's Hayley. |
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Far from being the overall package Hayley can't skate.
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I may be out of step on this thread but I would not be disappointed if Beth wins, in fact I will be voting for her to win! I think she is the best skater and ice dancer and that is what the competition is all about.. Having said that I wouldn't mind if Ray wins but really don't think Hayley should!
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Beth upped her game last night and showed that she really does deserve her place in the final.
I would not count myself a Beth fan and I do think Ray is the best skater (but I do find him smug - although his face was a picture last night when he finally realised that he does not have this in the bag) but after last night and the blatant over-marking of Hayley just to get her in the final at Beth's expense I would not be a bit upset if Beth won. Chris was right when he said that Beth deserved at least one 10 last night. No way did Hayley deserve so many of them!! |
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Me too and any real fan of ice-skating would want Ray to win too.
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I'm a real fan of ice skating, and I heard Chris say he thought Beth was techically the best last night.
No reference to her being technically the best. |
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Well this is a public voted competition at the end of the day, so shouldn't the most popular win?
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Chris didn't say that, he said "Technically that was the hardest routine tonight" and "She's technically one of the best in the show".
No reference to her being technically the best. |
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And that says it all - it would be a popularity vote, not the best over all skater, dancer and performer.
DOI, SCD and any other talent show is the same, the "popular" contents always wins over the "most talented" |
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Well it should have been Sam and Beth in the skate off with Beth going. I am no fan of Sam but he is better overall than Beth.
Whatever happens I think that the top two should be Hayley and Ray. I think that the judges are spot on tonight myself! I don't dislike Beth at all but I do feel that Chris's comments probably gained her a lot of votes from the public. |
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Nope it should be about talent and ability Ray is almost as good as the professionals! Hayley can't skate very well without Dan and if its about arrogance and confidence she's just as smug and confident if not worse people seem to have forgotten quite how big-headed she became in her series with comments such as "it's mine to lose and I know I'm going to win"
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She clearly can skate people on here just like to see what they want to see.
Though if you really think she can skate I understand your final comment. |
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but these shows are ALWAYS about popularity! its never about the best skater or the best dancer or the best singer
DOI, SCD and any other talent show is the same, the "popular" contents always wins over the "most talented" |
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This isn't a bog standard series, though - it's a 'champion of champions' series. The best of the champions should win, not the one who everyone feels has been most unfairly treated by the judges.
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This isn't a bog standard series, though - it's a 'champion of champions' series. The best of the champions should win, not the one who everyone feels has been most unfairly treated by the judges.
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This isn't a bog standard series, though - it's a 'champion of champions' series. The best of the champions should win, not the one who everyone feels has been most unfairly treated by the judges.
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