Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“You are thinking of 20th century gymnastics. Artistic impression is far less important now than difficulty. Its the same with ice skating where the marks are heavily weighted for content.”
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Not at all, Yuna Kim always gets massive performance marks as well as technical, Carolina Kostner has won many a medal with her massive performance marks as do Virtue and Moir in the ice-dancing.”
But just as facts, those things don't mean
thenetworkbabe is wrong. They just mean that some skaters have high enough "performance marks" that they outweigh a content deficit. In defence of thenetworkbabe's view, I would argue as follows:
* Although it's tricky to compare the two systems formally, because they work in such different ways, in practice the new scoring system for figure skating does seem to give considerably more credit for content and difficulty than the old 6.0 system. So thenetworkbabe is right at least about the direction of change.
* The skaters you mention are relatively unusual in getting so much benefit from "performance marks", but they are good technically too. For example, in the Ladies Free Skate in the Sochi Olympics, Carolina came 4th. Her elements score, 68.84, was less than the elements score of the three above her, and greater than the elements score of everyone below her except Gracie Gold (who fell). So she'd have been in almost the same place if her component score was ignored.
* What is the "performance mark"? This is tricky too.
Most people seem to treat the Program Components score as a performance mark (with the elements score as the technical mark), but "Performance / Execution" is only one of the components, and some of the other components include such things as skating skills and "the variety and difficulty (of) how the individual elements are linked together." I think there's a pretty good case that it's primarily only the Performance / Execution and Interpretation components that mark performance. (Choreography / Composition is a tricky one, but I'd argue that it's more about what's performed than how well it's performed.)
However, it could also be argued that there's a performance aspect to some of the things that can contribute to the judges' "grade of execution" adjustments to the elements scores; and if someone wanted to be extra strict about what part of the marks is about technical difficulty, they might argue that it's only the base values of the elements.
So there's a lot of room to disagree about exactly what part of the overall mark is about performance; but I would argue that less is about performance -- especially performance as it seems to be understood in DOI -- than most people normally think.