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Have you met her
She comes across as very humble and never argues back. She always says she will learn from what the judges say. Oh about the bronze medal, well have you won anything for your country? I am very proud that Beth won something for GB. ... imo
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I don't think the rebellion has gone far enough.
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musicangel Have you met Beth to make this assumption? or are you having a tantrum simply because she has either already knocked your favourite out or is a threat to your favourite.
Also how dare you say anyone supporting Beth needs a reality check. Everyone is entitled to support who they want for whatever reason regardless of what your opinion is on that person it doesn't give you the right to insult people for supporting their favourite. I'm sure if I was to say you needed a reality check for supporting whoever you wouldn't be that happy about it. IMO Beth comes across and lovely and genuine and she is Britain's most successful gymnastic something she has every right to be proud of. She hasn't given back any attitude to the judges unlike many others in previous years and seems to have gotten on well with everyone. Hardly the behaviour of someone that you descrbe a pain in the bum. |
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musicangel Have you met Beth to make this assumption? or are you having a tantrum simply because she has either already knocked your favourite out or is a threat to your favourite.
Also how dare you say anyone supporting Beth needs a reality check. Everyone is entitled to support who they want for whatever reason regardless of what your opinion is on that person it doesn't give you the right to insult people for supporting their favourite. I'm sure if I was to say you needed a reality check for supporting whoever you wouldn't be that happy about it. IMO Beth comes across and lovely and genuine and she is Britain's most successful gymnastic something she has every right to be proud of. She hasn't given back any attitude to the judges unlike many others in previous years and seems to have gotten on well with everyone. Hardly the behaviour of someone that you descrbe a pain in the bum.
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Why is this thread just aimed at Beth fans? Hayley's just as much to blame for him being in the skate off i.e. he's better than both of them.
Beth deserves her place in the final and clearly the majority agree. She's had support since she entered the competition last year - her support isn't just because she's being unfairly treated, it's because she's actually one of the best contestants to ever be on the show. Chris and Jayne acknowledged tonight that she's one of the best technical skaters and deserved 10's tonight. She can skate and is one of (if not the) best contestant to pull off the lifts and tricks. I saw nothing wrong with her performance tonight. Sometimes she struggles with it and it can damage the routine somewhat, but not tonight and even so, when she does lack in performance, she makes up for it with skating, lifts and tricks. The judges treating her unfairly just makes me root for her a little more strongly. I'm personally hoping for a Beth win, but not because of how the judges have treated her - I just prefer her type of routines over Ray's and Hayley's. She's not an actor like Hayley, or a stage performer lihe Ray, or a trained dancer like both, but I can't see much wrong with her performance level either. She's fine in the right role, and Ray and Hayley have pretty obvious limits on what roles they should try too. I wouldn't trust that panel's comments on anyone's acting ability. No one on that judging panel has any acting credentials (Robin is pretty bad, karen doesn't , Ashley is a singer/dancer and Jason was a dance captain , not an actor or director) so I don't know why anyone believes what they say - when we often see something different. . |
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Loved her in the Olympics and love her on DOI.
I think it's disgraceful that Jason et el have been allowed to try and humiliate her week after week. I was so glad when both Chris and Jayne voiced their disappointment with her marks. Quite frankly I don't mind who wins out of Ray and Beth but, the panel will only have themselves to blame if the non-skater walks away with the whole thing!
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Imo Beth has little personality on the ice, and routines are bland and boring, ir seems as though she's the john Sargent of the series... Which is why this is the last series... Great skaters have gone she stays
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Imo Beth has little personality on the ice, and routines are bland and boring, ir seems as though she's the john Sargent of the series... Which is why this is the last series... Great skaters have gone she stays
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I wonder how Beth is feeling this morning. I just hope she doesn't see all the comments against her. It's not her fault that people are voting for her to stay in.
I think Chris right to speak out when he did. Beth and Sam have both been undermarked for most of the series. The judges certainly have their favourite. Last night I watched back some of Matthew Wolfenden's routines and I think he was a very strong champion and would most certainly given Ray a run for his money as would Chris Fountain. |
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that's so well said... People supporting Beth need a reality check she won a bronze Olympic medal.. Not nobel.peace prize ffs shea apparently a pain in the behind too
Then again, Beth is a far better skater than Victoria was a dancer, and she did win her series after all. |
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Why is Beth getting all the blame for Golden boy being in the skate off? The public can vote for who they like. There is no hiding the fact that the judges are biased in their voting. For Jason to come out and say that they are looking for the whole package. How has Hayley got the whole package any more than Beth has? Beth is a better skater than Hayley and Hayley is a better performer. But then she would be seeing as she is trained in that part. If anything Sam was robbed and the two girls should have battled it out in skate off but it doesn't work like that and the public will vote if they see it unfair that certain people are being harshly judged. The public like an underdog! Beth never gives any attitude or she never goes in a sulk if her marks are lower than expected she just gets on with it.
I think in the end Ray will win but it's not the end of the world if Beth beats him. If anything the judges will have themselves to blame because they can't hide their personal feelings towards certain celebs |
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Not at all. On the night I think that Hayley was the better of the two. Rays flying was not great and the judges were very generous to him in my opinion.
But I do think that Ray will go on to win next week! Hopefully Hayley will take 2nd place if that's the case. That would be fine for me even though Hayley is my favourite. Quote:
How is that insulting when Hayley DID actually perform better than Ray in the flying routine tonight.....and came close to him in the ice dance, with a fast and energetic performance? ???
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that's so well said... People supporting Beth need a reality check she won a bronze Olympic medal.. Not nobel.peace prize ffs shea apparently a pain in the behind too
As Chris said - Beth is technically one of the best in the series; Suzanne and Clare could also skate - Hayley cannot. And that is a fact. As for only a bronze at the Olympics Beth was also a World, European and Commonwealth champion: Olympic Games Bronze 2012 London Uneven Bars World Championships Gold 2006 Aarhus Uneven Bars Gold 2009 London Floor Gold 2010 Rotterdam Uneven Bars European Championships Gold 2006 Volos Uneven Bars Gold 2009 Milan Uneven Bars Gold 2009 Milan Floor Gold 2010 Birmingham Uneven Bars Gold 2010 Birmingham Floor Gold 2011 Berlin Uneven Bars World Cup Final Gold 2006 Sao Paolo Uneven Bars World Cup Gold 2003 Glasgow Uneven Bars Gold 2004 Cottbus Uneven Bars Gold 2004 Lyon Uneven Bars Gold 2005 Glasgow Uneven Bars Gold 2005 Glasgow Floor Gold 2006 Glasgow Uneven Bars Gold 2007 Glasgow Floor Gold 2009 Glasgow Uneven Bars Gold 2009 Glasgow Floor Gold 2010 Paris Floor Gold 2012 Doha Uneven Bars Representing England Commonwealth Games Gold 2002 Manchester Uneven Bars That excludes all silver and bronze medals. Not a bad haul for someone who won only bronze at the Olympics. Quote:
I agree Beth's flying routine was the best of the night but should you win an ice-dancing show because you did the best flying routine? I do hope not.
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Not a Beth fan but I think we can all see that she has been tactically placed on the score charts these last weeks.
Dancing on Ice should have done what SCD did and axe the Skate off when it reaches Top 4 etc. That said, it must be frustrating for the judges to see someone as average each week get saved. When they mark her down for being not as good they get accused of "bullying" and "bias" so now the panel cannot criticise her as the fans will just say this.. Quote:
If she wins, because of her routines, fine. I think in every thread thats been made about Beth, the support for Beth has usually always mentioned the fact they were annoyed with the judges comments, or they think she was being unfairly marked against Hayley, or she wasn't marked high enough. so it seemed to me to be at least a consistent factor in getting some of the support. Not the only reason of course, but I think its lame if this comes into it at all in picking the champion of the show. If you think its not, I hope you're right. I want the winner (even if its not my winner) to be there because people believed her/him to be the best skater or because they enjoyed their performance more than anyone else, regardless of what judges have said.
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I could see why the judges gave Hayley and Dan all tens because their flying routine was very moving and for me was the best. I don't think that Beth's was that good and the judges were very kind to her. I felt that Beth's partner held on to her for far too long as if Beth was frightened she would fly out of control. I thought that Hayley's flying was far more superior tonight and she deserved the top marks.
! I think Chris knew what he was talking about when he said Beth's routine was the most difficult of the night and deserved the highest mark. Quote:
I think with Ray being the best skater and Hayley the better performer and equal to Ray in dancing that these two are definitely the best. I do think Ray is the most complete package and if the final is between Ray and Beth he should win. I'd be happy with that - but I'd hate to see a non skating cheesy grin with jazz hands succeed over grace and technical skills. Sorry but for me Beth struck lucky last year in winning and she definitely does not deserve the winner of winners this year. That should go to Hayley or Ray Quote:
Imo Beth has little personality on the ice, and routines are bland and boring, ir seems as though she's the john Sargent of the series... Which is why this is the last series... Great skaters have gone she stays
Do you really think this is the last series because of Beth? ![]() ![]() ![]() I suggest you familiarise yourself with the reasons given by Chris and Jayne. |
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Ray's the best but I wouldn't mind Beth winning. Chris Dean seems to think she's worthy and that's good enough for me.
Most annoying point for me was Jason's last diatribe. "you have to be the complete package to be in the final and that's Ray, Hayley and Sam!". Just how is Hayley 'the complete package' anymore than Beth? She can't skate! Quote:
Why is Beth getting all the blame for Golden boy being in the skate off? The public can vote for who they like. There is no hiding the fact that the judges are biased in their voting. For Jason to come out and say that they are looking for the whole package. How has Hayley got the whole package any more than Beth has? Beth is a better skater than Hayley and Hayley is a better performer. But then she would be seeing as she is trained in that part. If anything Sam was robbed and the two girls should have battled it out in skate off but it doesn't work like that and the public will vote if they see it unfair that certain people are being harshly judged. The public like an underdog! Beth never gives any attitude or she never goes in a sulk if her marks are lower than expected she just gets on with it.
I think in the end Ray will win but it's not the end of the world if Beth beats him. If anything the judges will have themselves to blame because they can't hide their personal feelings towards certain celebs |
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Why is Beth getting all the blame for Golden boy being in the skate off? The public can vote for who they like. There is no hiding the fact that the judges are biased in their voting. For Jason to come out and say that they are looking for the whole package. How has Hayley got the whole package any more than Beth has? Beth is a better skater than Hayley and Hayley is a better performer. But then she would be seeing as she is trained in that part. If anything Sam was robbed and the two girls should have battled it out in skate off but it doesn't work like that and the public will vote if they see it unfair that certain people are being harshly judged. The public like an underdog! Beth never gives any attitude or she never goes in a sulk if her marks are lower than expected she just gets on with it.
I think in the end Ray will win but it's not the end of the world if Beth beats him. If anything the judges will have themselves to blame because they can't hide their personal feelings towards certain celebs |
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Loved her in the Olympics and love her on DOI.
I think it's disgraceful that Jason et el have been allowed to try and humiliate her week after week. I was so glad when both Chris and Jayne voiced their disappointment with her marks. Quite frankly I don't mind who wins out of Ray and Beth but, the panel will only have themselves to blame if the non-skater walks away with the whole thing! |
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Okay, I get it. Beth is a nice girl and likeable but this is all stars and champion of champions. How insulting for the shows memory to have someone who is average win over the best contestant ever on the show (Ray). Really don't understand it
![]() As for Ray, yes, very good, but also very cocky, again, shown by his reaction to being in the bottom 2. I personally liked Sam, just a pity the public wasn't behind him. As for Hayley, she has shown she cannot skate without Dan. Beth is as Chris said 'the best skater' |
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I'm so glad that the majority of DS is supporting Beth to win.
The DS kiss of death if ever there was one. She doesn't stand a chance with DS's support.
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Think Jayne and Chris would disagree as was shown by Chris finally letting the panel know exactly what he thinks.
As for Ray, yes, very good, but also very cocky, again, shown by his reaction to being in the bottom 2. I personally liked Sam, just a pity the public wasn't behind him. As for Hayley, she has shown she cannot skate without Dan. Beth is as Chris said 'the best skater' As i've replied to someone else, Chris has never said Beth is the best skater. |
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It wasn't very long ago that there were hints and suggestions of a conspiracy against Beth - that J & C were deliberately giving her the worst routines to prevent her doing well. Routines playing to her weaknesses and not her strengths etc. Now Chris is walking on water because he said she had been marked too low. Perhaps if he had given Hayleys routines to Beth then she may well have been given higher scores. Perhaps Chris should be blaming himself instead of the judges. Agree with them or not (and I frequently dont) the judges are paid the give 'their' opinions - they are not paid to give yours, mine nor Chris's.
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Blame the judges all you like...They are there to do a job....to judge what is presented before them....and if hayley is poor at skating, beth at performance and ray at flying. ..so be it. Chris had to put some verbal imput in all this....after all his routine for Beth was being criticised here
![]() and he doesn't care less now. He musthave known afterwards that there were flaws within and certainly wasn't going to point them out....it's the last series after all !!! |
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I know it's late - I know we're weary but I've just noticed the misspelling of the title.
Rebellion not Rebellian. I hate myself. |
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Am dipping my toes in the water after lurking a while!
My favourites and those who I personally feel are the best skaters aren't even in the final, those are Laura Hamilton, Chris Fountain and Jorgie Porter. Jorgie was well and truly screwed over by the producers this year, pairing her with Sylvain was a terrible idea but TPTB wanted their little bit of sensationalism and conflict. Of those left, I will be supporting Beth, she is the best technical skater and Ray and Hayley are my least favourites of all time. |
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Okay, I get it. Beth is a nice girl and likeable but this is all stars and champion of champions. How insulting for the shows memory to have someone who is average win over the best contestant ever on the show (Ray). Really don't understand it
![]() I just lolled. Talk about a drama queen.Is your name J'aime by any chance? |
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I just lolled. Talk about a drama queen.Is your name J'aime by any chance? |
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I'm so glad that the majority of DS is supporting Beth to win.
The DS kiss of death if ever there was one. She doesn't stand a chance with DS's support. ![]()
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She comes across as very humble and never argues back. She always says she will learn from what the judges say. Oh about the bronze medal, well have you won anything for your country? I am very proud that Beth won something for GB.
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