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Old 05-03-2014, 04:39
Patti-Ann
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The biggest farce would be non-skating Hayley winning!

Ray really should win, and I don't think anything will stop that happening.

.. and cheers TraceyUK it was indeed Katie with Vanilla. Her and Vicky look very similar in my defence.
Vicky is brunette, Katie is a blonde
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:51
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Oh please...

Beth is clearly below par to the other past contestants such as Ray / Suzanne / Hayley / Matthew / Matt.
No, not 'oh please'. I think you must have a prejudice against Beth rather than being against her for purposes of her skating if you think she's dreadful. Plus, I find it a little odd that you've included Hayley in that list - fine, she can pull faces and perform better Beth, but not skate, which is fairly fundamental to winning Dancing on Ice. I know little about skating about myself, but I've seen plenty of people on here and off who do and are aware that Beth is miles ahead of Hayley in terms of skating.
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Old 05-03-2014, 07:57
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Definitely not a farce the programme is supposed to be called dancing on ice, meaning you can skate not 'I have jazz hands!' You would not see professional ice dancers in the Olympics for example waving their arms around and pulling faces!! imo

Have you not seen Torvill and Dean's 'Barnum' routine?
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:00
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Ok I know I'll get shot down but I've been reading this and thought I'd give my view which is entirely different from everyone it seems.

To me DOI is a light entertainment show, and as such I want to be entertained. I don't really care how technical a skater is, I'm all about the performance (you can blame being a huge Kids From Fame fan in the 80's). I'm nearly 40 so way past blindly following a favourite no matter what mistakes they make. That stopped when I was 14 and Bros split up!

So I will say it...I usually like Hayley the best. I don't care that her technique isn't as good, I love her partnership and performances with Dan. If something gets me in the gut, that's what I go by and that's usually about the performance. I can see how good Beth is technically but she just doesn't do it for me. I like enthusiastic, smily people so like Hayley's personality too.

Ray is a cocky little sod but I love watching his performances too, and Sam's were often very entertaining.

Everyone is wired different and will hear a song for example, which will make some cry but others will feel nothing.

Don't care who wins really but would prefer it to be Ray or Hayley. Ray has been so damn good he probably deserves it, and Hayley entertains me the most,

just hope the last week is entertaining. I freely admit watching The Bolero three times in a row bores me to tears. Would rather they did that first and got it out of the way.

The end...(just to help you judge me even more harshly for daring to like Hayley, my fave ever skate was Vanilla Ice skating to Ice Ice Baby!)




Good post.

Thank you for putting into sensible words exactly what my thoughts are.


*thumbs up*




I think I will avoid DS on Finals night on Sunday. The vitriol will be knee deep if Hayley beats Beth.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:17
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Vicky is brunette, Katie is a blonde
Lol whoops! I can just picture him with a brunette, both dressed in black?

The backlash has been instigated by the judges. I can't remember Beth ever being fairly critiqued in either series, they just slate her.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:19
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No, not 'oh please'. I think you must have a prejudice against Beth rather than being against her for purposes of her skating if you think she's dreadful. Plus, I find it a little odd that you've included Hayley in that list - fine, she can pull faces and perform better Beth, but not skate, which is fairly fundamental to winning Dancing on Ice. I know little about skating about myself, but I've seen plenty of people on here and off who do and are aware that Beth is miles ahead of Hayley in terms of skating.
I don't want Beth to win cause she is the weakest contestant left and that makes me prejudice. Slightly dramatic and unnecessary to call me that.

I like Hayley but I don't go calling her opposition prejudice its just not classy. Hayley has the performance aspect for me and she can skate when she needs too. Ray for instance can only skate cause he is male whereas the females need to include lifts etc to enhance the routines. Beth just skates around cause that's all she can rely on.

I think if you look at the past contestants ever to do Dancing on Ice Beth Tweedle winning the all stars series would be just bland. When I think Dancing on Ice I think Ray Quinn / Jai Ho / Chris Fountain / Suzanne (Finale Night) etc. Beth winning.... just no.

FYI I also supported Beth the series she won.
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Old 05-03-2014, 08:41
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The biggest farce would be non-skating Hayley winning!

Ray really should win, and I don't think anything will stop that happening.

.. and cheers TraceyUK it was indeed Katie with Vanilla. Her and Vicky look very similar in my defence.
Look similar?? Katie's blonde and Vicky's dark??
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Old 05-03-2014, 09:29
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I don't want Beth to win cause she is the weakest contestant left and that makes me prejudice. Slightly dramatic and unnecessary to call me that.

I like Hayley but I don't go calling her opposition prejudice its just not classy. Hayley has the performance aspect for me and she can skate when she needs too. Ray for instance can only skate cause he is male whereas the females need to include lifts etc to enhance the routines. Beth just skates around cause that's all she can rely on.

I think if you look at the past contestants ever to do Dancing on Ice Beth Tweedle winning the all stars series would be just bland. When I think Dancing on Ice I think Ray Quinn / Jai Ho / Chris Fountain / Suzanne (Finale Night) etc. Beth winning.... just no.

FYI I also supported Beth the series she won.
Hayley cannot skate when she needs to - as proved during her solo skate.
Beth spends time skating because she can.
Hayley has very few lifts or tricks in her repetoire.
Beth is capable of spectacular lifts and tricks.
The only area where Hayley is superior to Beth is the performance - which is to be expected from a stage school product.

The very idea of a DOI winner who can barely balance on ice and whose only talent is jazz hands and cheesy grins is very unappealing.
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Old 05-03-2014, 12:05
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Hayley cannot skate when she needs to - as proved during her solo skate.
Beth spends time skating because she can.
Hayley has very few lifts or tricks in her repetoire.
Beth is capable of spectacular lifts and tricks.
The only area where Hayley is superior to Beth is the performance - which is to be expected from a stage school product.

The very idea of a DOI winner who can barely balance on ice and whose only talent is jazz hands and cheesy grins is very unappealing.

Agree totally, it makes a nonsense of the programme, which is dancing on ice, skating, not acting cheesy on ice!
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Old 05-03-2014, 17:08
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Jason thinks Hayley is the complete package because of her performances. He uses the fact that the show is called DANCING on Ice to ignore the concept of skating technique completely. (Even though ice dance is a skating discipline and technique is just as important as artistic.) I wonder what he'd say if this were a dance competition on a dance floor and a competitor used OTT performances to try and hide the fact that they can't dance, the way Hayley uses OTT performances to try and hide the fact that she can't skate very well. Would he be so keen to dismiss technique then?

Beth may not have great performance skills but she's a great skater. She's capable of skating without hanging on to her pro partner for dear life, as proved by the fact that she has a decent amount of unassisted skating in every routine - and not just some armography and toe steps, like Hayley. She has been stretched and challenged throughout the compeition, unlike Hayley who has routines only playing up her strengths, which haven't stretched or challenged her in any way, except for the solo skating where she just proved how poor her skating is.

Personally, I think Ray is the complete package and should win but I wouldn't mind in the slightest if Beth won. I'd be extremely disappointed if Hayley won.
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