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Ashley and Karen are ridiculous
Leicester_Hunk
02-03-2014
Karen's crocodile tears.

Ashley hasn't a clue.

The stupid judging panel is what has done for DOI. Ridiculous people like Ashley and Emma Bunton on the panel who have no idea and just copy others.

Karen has never really added anything to the panel. She should never have got back on it.
trevvytrev21
02-03-2014
They got rid of flippin' Katarina Witt.

Emma was the true nadir DOI-judging wise, and Karen has always been crap while better suited to coaching. She shouldn't be doing both.

I like Ashley and wanted her to do well on the show, the second-rate Nicole Scherzinger impersonation just hasn't cut it, sadly. If she'd have been more herself - a bit like what got her to second place on I'm A Sleb - who knows.

Jason is up there with the worst judges, but does panto villain well. His inability to let Beth shine even for a minute - across two whole series - is alarming and disheartening.
oathy
02-03-2014
Posted in another thread.
again Karen shows why she was demoted onto the stool with no real power over votes.
A woman who during the week works on the very routine she has no problem taking apart on the night.

I'd have more respect for all of them just being honest saying they don't like Beth on a personal level at least its not taking us the fans still remaining as Idiots.

As for Ashley a classic case of a former IAC who totally fooled the public and once she got a TV job the other side she hid so well comes out. A bit part player in a Girl group making out she is even Qualified to comment on what she is seeing tonight. Comments made from last year are just recycled and FFS sort those roots out for the final
sixtynotout
02-03-2014
I kind of like Karen. As someone who cries very easily I have some empathy with her but Ashley is awful. I could make more informed critiques than she does.
Leicester_Hunk
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Posted in another thread.
again Karen shows why she was demoted onto the stool with no real power over votes.
A woman who during the week works on the very routine she has no problem taking apart on the night.

I'd have more respect for all of them just being honest saying they don't like Beth on a personal level at least its not taking us the fans still remaining as Idiots.

As for Ashley a classic case of a former IAC who totally fooled the public and once she got a TV job the other side she hid so well comes out. A bit part player in a Girl group making out she is even Qualified to comment on what she is seeing tonight. Comments made from last year are just recycled and FFS sort those roots out for the final”

That is just the point, she is RIDICULOUS! She is the one who does the bloody routines, I find she really makes me sick.
bornfree
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Posted in another thread.
again Karen shows why she was demoted onto the stool with no real power over votes.
A woman who during the week works on the very routine she has no problem taking apart on the night.

I'd have more respect for all of them just being honest saying they don't like Beth on a personal level at least its not taking us the fans still remaining as Idiots.

As for Ashley a classic case of a former IAC who totally fooled the public and once she got a TV job the other side she hid so well comes out. A bit part player in a Girl group making out she is even Qualified to comment on what she is seeing tonight. Comments made from last year are just recycled and FFS sort those roots out for the final”

I don't know what there is to dislike about Beth.
oathy
02-03-2014
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“That is just the point, she is RIDICULOUS! She is the one who does the bloody routines, I find she really makes me sick.”

Originally Posted by bornfree:
“I don't know what there is to dislike about Beth.”

It just shows up much the producers have lost the plot in not seeing Karen making negative comments on the routine when she helped create them.

Totally agree don't understand the clear dislike for Beth they have I don't care if Beth came out and gave the best performance ever seen they would still find fault. The reasons for the lower scores get more pathetic by the week. In previous series when someone was in the skateoff more than twice they would finally mention maybe the public didn't like them. Not a mention this year only everyone voting was wrong the arrogance being displayed by all the panel just so glad this show is ending because those four don't deserve TV work.
Mynametoday
03-03-2014
Originally Posted by sixtynotout:
“I kind of like Karen. As someone who cries very easily I have some empathy with her but Ashley is awful. I could make more informed critiques than she does.”

Don't be fooled she's as hard as nails and ruthless with it !
Leicester_Hunk
03-03-2014
Even Karen's Twitter account has a stupid name @Woo2Kaz. Grow up woman.
camy934
03-03-2014
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“Karen's crocodile tears.

Ashley hasn't a clue.

The stupid judging panel is what has done for DOI. Ridiculous people like Ashley and Emma Bunton on the panel who have no idea and just copy others.

Karen has never really added anything to the panel. She should never have got back on it.”

Karen is ridiculous, sat there last night with Beth, 'I don't know what more you have to do', ' It was an exciting performance' and yet sat there with a 9.5 and no explanation as to why it wasn't a 10.0
Chris1347
03-03-2014
Originally Posted by oathy:
“It just shows up much the producers have lost the plot in not seeing Karen making negative comments on the routine when she helped create them.

Totally agree don't understand the clear dislike for Beth they have I don't care if Beth came out and gave the best performance ever seen they would still find fault. The reasons for the lower scores get more pathetic by the week. In previous series when someone was in the skateoff more than twice they would finally mention maybe the public didn't like them. Not a mention this year only everyone voting was wrong the arrogance being displayed by all the panel just so glad this show is ending because those four don't deserve TV work.”

So agree. after the judges' performance on the skate off, they were totally unprofessional and ridiculous! Just as an aside I have never seen Jayne and Chris pull stupid faces and use stupid jazz hands when they ice dance, so do not see why Beth should have to 'perform' like that either! She skates and dances beautifully !
Monkseal
03-03-2014
It pains me to say it because the woman's as irritating as ****, but of all four of them I think Karen's marked and commented the mostly fairly this series. She's definitely the only one of the four who gave Beth a fair crack at the whip.
Jocolah
03-03-2014
Originally Posted by oathy:
“Posted in another thread.
again Karen shows why she was demoted onto the stool with no real power over votes.
A woman who during the week works on the very routine she has no problem taking apart on the night.

I'd have more respect for all of them just being honest saying they don't like Beth on a personal level at least its not taking us the fans still remaining as Idiots.

As for Ashley a classic case of a former IAC who totally fooled the public and once she got a TV job the other side she hid so well comes out. A bit part player in a Girl group making out she is even Qualified to comment on what she is seeing tonight. Comments made from last year are just recycled and FFS sort those roots out for the final”

I don't see anything about Beth as to why they would dislike her. She is certainly not cocky, smug, arrogant or anything else objectionable If they dislike her simply because her performances is not as good as the others, then that would be so ridiculous.
norbitonite
03-03-2014
Originally Posted by Chris1347:
“So agree. after the judges' performance on the skate off, they were totally unprofessional and ridiculous! Just as an aside I have never seen Jayne and Chris pull stupid faces and use stupid jazz hands when they ice dance, so do not see why Beth should have to 'perform' like that either! She skates and dances beautifully !”


Jason would probably only give T&D a 7.5.
hopscotch23
04-03-2014
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“It pains me to say it because the woman's as irritating as ****, but of all four of them I think Karen's marked and commented the mostly fairly this series. She's definitely the only one of the four who gave Beth a fair crack at the whip.”

I agree I think she has been the most supportive judge to Beth this series and on Sunday pointed out about how Beth has had to master technical and performance and is doing difficult routines. She sat and simpered when CD had his tens rant whilst the others chewed wasps I still don't understand though why she hasn't given Beth a ten after some of her comments though
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