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Old 09-03-2014, 23:12
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Ted Bundy was a GREAT lawyer...let us have him do what he wants to do because, shucks, he is GREAT at it! People thought he was lovely too!!!

I really WORRY about stupid people like you! He is ON RECORD as a disgusting, woman-hating man...yet you still defend him??

You are either thick or hopelessly infatuated. Neither of which is good.
Great comment and along the lines of what I wanted to say. To be fair, why even talk to the empty heads who think it's fine to have yourself filmed at any age, in any place, boasting about raping women?

Sheeesh.
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Old 10-03-2014, 00:33
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Nope, I'd like people in the public eye to behave properly. I know it's a big ask, but....
Why? He wrote a rap song, and a pretty crap one at that, which was no worse than any rapper has written. Did I like it? No, but it was just a throw away YouTube video. I think had two of his cast mates not been accused of sex offences at the time it was released, and one former cast member too, the reaction and punishment from ITV would have been a lot different.

He made a mistake, he apologised for it, he was talented on DOI and should have been shown at some point tonight.
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Old 10-03-2014, 06:31
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Suzanne wasn't even close to Chris in ability....how she won that series is beyond me.
I blame the wires. It was the first time I remember those bloody things changed the result. I honestly believe she wouldn't have won if it wasn't for them. One of the reasons I hate wire week so much. Nothing to do with skating, and is an excuse for the women to look more graceful.
I too missed Chris. To have the first and third placed people from his year just looked obvious. I don't believe Chris was as good a skater as Ray, but he had masses of charisma, which made him my favourite.
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Old 10-03-2014, 08:39
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Suzanne wasn't even close to Chris in ability....how she won that series is beyond me.
What was that you kept saying about people being chippy?

Chris was good, and it's a shame he couldn't compete, but it's really no surprise to anyone who is capable of thinking about consequences. If it had been a year on, and he'd kept his nose clean and stayed sufficiently contrite, it may have been OK, but the start of this series was just too close to the incident. I'm sure he would understand, and wouldn't want to be in the lime-light quite so soon, knowing that the controversy would be talked about in the media again.

Having not been in the series, it would have been odd to put him centre stage at the final. It's possible he was invited to be in the audience, but chose not to come.
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Old 10-03-2014, 15:55
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Whilst I totally understand ITV's decision not to have Chris participate on this series, you only have to look at some of the strong opinions on here to see how his appearance would have polarised opinion and possibly overshadowed the show.
It left a bad taste in my mouth that his contribution to Dancing on Ice and his ability to push the boundaries and to make the skating so exciting was more or less wiped out. He deserved more than for his only appearance to be in the background of the clip where Suzanne won during the final montage.
He is paying for a stupid mistake and deservedly so but I felt like it was poorly done on the shows part to erase him from their history completely.
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Old 10-03-2014, 18:32
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It's all a simple equation:

Is your obsession for Chris Fountain greater than your moral standards? If so he should have been on. If not, then no.

But the title of this very thread shows this stupidity: Put the onus on ITV when it was HIM who did something. Not anyone else. He is to blame and that's that!
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Old 10-03-2014, 19:21
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Wow

I am simply stunned by some of the comments on here regarding Chris.

And thank you, but those of you who feel that the ones who did want to see Chris on this last series (and I included myself in that) aren't the conscience of my moral standards as it come across as if you think you are more superior than us. And for me that kind of attitude doesn't make anyone a nice person.

I expect Chris is still paying for his huge mistake. It would seem some of you want him to pay for it for the rest of his life?! Maybe if he were to ends up penniless and begging in the streets or something dreadful happen to me, then he'd have finally have paid for what he has done?!

And further more I'll take more notice of those people who have come on this thread to say they have ACTUALLY met Chris in person and found him to be a nice guy rather than those that haven't.

And sorry if I have gone a bit over the top with my comment here but nothing gets my back up more than condescending and patronizing comments from others on here who seem to be full of themselves for thinking better of their opinions while belittling others if they don't share the same view.
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Old 10-03-2014, 22:49
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Wow

I am simply stunned by some of the comments on here regarding Chris.

And thank you, but those of you who feel that the ones who did want to see Chris on this last series (and I included myself in that) aren't the conscience of my moral standards as it come across as if you think you are more superior than us. And for me that kind of attitude doesn't make anyone a nice person.

I expect Chris is still paying for his huge mistake. It would seem some of you want him to pay for it for the rest of his life?! Maybe if he were to ends up penniless and begging in the streets or something dreadful happen to me, then he'd have finally have paid for what he has done?!

And further more I'll take more notice of those people who have come on this thread to say they have ACTUALLY met Chris in person and found him to be a nice guy rather than those that haven't.

And sorry if I have gone a bit over the top with my comment here but nothing gets my back up more than condescending and patronizing comments from others on here who seem to be full of themselves for thinking better of their opinions while belittling others if they don't share the same view.
Well said.
Chris was one of the only celebrities on a tour I went to who took the time to shake people's hands and thank them for coming.
He made a big mistake nobody is denying that but there are comments in this thread comparing him to a serial killer???!
It would be laughable if it wasn't so scary at how much hatred the public spit towards someone thay they don't really know who has just appeared on their tv!
Would Chris have won? Nobody knows! Nobody ever will. I personally believe he could have but it's my opinion. The final missed him and most people I speak to about the show remember Chris and think he is one of the best skaters ever on there.
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Old 11-03-2014, 00:01
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At the end of a day, what he said was completely fictional and it was a rap. Eminem, Drake, Lil Wayne ect say that stuff on on every single one of their songs and no-one bats an eye-lid. Its not real. Chris would never do anything like that. Anyone can see that and im not saying what he said is fine but im not saying his career should be ruined either. Regardless of this nonsense, he made an impact on DOI and Sunday's episode was all about celebrating its history, he is part of the history yet was included. Thats my issue
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Old 11-03-2014, 00:23
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The obsession is clearly shown by referring to him as "Chris" like they actually know him.

Nothing to see hear; just fandom excusing anything their obsession does.

He did something that many found unacceptable and that is why he is not appearing on shows. Where is the difficulties in that?

All the apologist seem to be doing is saying that whatever he didn't doesn't justify him not appearing. It does and has. Those are the facts, not your idea of what moral are.
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Old 11-03-2014, 00:51
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Sorry I should have said Mr Fountain!

As for the rest of the posters in here, when ever you refer to any celebrity on these forums, please do not call them by their first name because none of us actually know them?! So it's Mr Quinn to you all.

And excuse me but please don't tell me I'm obsessed with someone just because I choose to stick up for them. It's show a superiority complex with is completely unattractive in a person. Not that I guess that would be a worry.
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:29
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I'm not attempting to be attractive. What I have been is factual. Facts that so far not one of Chris Fountain's fan club have been able to change.

All they have done is to try and play down what he did to achieve their goal of thinking that he should have been in it.

What he did was considered disgusting by those not obsessed with him and for his own disgusting actions and his alone, he is not wanted on TV.

So no superiority position just one of reality.

Still, throw a tantrum and call me whatever you wish the facts won't change and that seems to be what annoys you.

With morals that can be disregarded based on fandom, it's not very hard to find oneself in a superior position. Put there by you!
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Old 11-03-2014, 03:40
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The obsession is clearly shown by referring to him as "Chris" like they actually know him.

Nothing to see hear; just fandom excusing anything their obsession does.

He did something that many found unacceptable and that is why he is not appearing on shows. Where is the difficulties in that?

All the apologist seem to be doing is saying that whatever he didn't doesn't justify him not appearing. It does and has. Those are the facts, not your idea of what moral are.
Congratulations, you have just won the award for most condesnding, patronising and pretentious post ever writen on DS. Could you be any further up your own arse?

Im not some crazy fangirl and im certainly not obsessed and I resent the accusation. Im a DOI fan who enjoyed his skating during his time on the show so I wanted to see a reprise.
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Old 11-03-2014, 06:31
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The obsession is clearly shown by referring to him as "Chris" like they actually know him
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What on earth????? This comment is the strangest I've ever read. The whole forum posters are referring to the contestants as "Suzanne" "Beth" "Sam" etc
Funnily enough people's names!! so you are basically saying the whole forum is obsessed and infatuated with who they write about.
I'm sorry but I hope you read your comment back and see how crazy that is!
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Old 11-03-2014, 07:46
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I think the shame is that Chris Fountain made that ill-considered, misogynistic rap in the first place, engineering his own downfall and putting himself beyond the pale for any ITV family-oriented shows.

Nothing to do with ITV's 'pride', everything to do with Chris's own actions.
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Old 11-03-2014, 08:42
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I think the shame is that Chris Fountain made that ill-considered, misogynistic rap in the first place, engineering his own downfall and putting himself beyond the pale for any ITV family-oriented shows.

Nothing to do with ITV's 'pride', everything to do with Chris's own actions.
I agree, it was an act of immaturity and he was the architect of his own downfall. Hopefully, he will learn from this but it won't be easy rebuilding a career. A pity, as he was a very talented skater.
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Old 11-03-2014, 14:52
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I think the shame is that Chris Fountain made that ill-considered, misogynistic rap in the first place, engineering his own downfall and putting himself beyond the pale for any ITV family-oriented shows.

Nothing to do with ITV's 'pride', everything to do with Chris's own actions.
Those are the facts. That's it in a nutshell.

Just a shame that some are trying to excuse his actions just because they wanted him on the show.
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Old 11-03-2014, 17:46
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Those are the facts. That's it in a nutshell.

Just a shame that some are trying to excuse his actions just because they wanted him on the show.
So, under no circumstances will you accept that he should be given the chance to rehabilitate himself and rebuild his career? You will not accept that people can do wrong and should be allowed to put it behind them?
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Old 11-03-2014, 18:49
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I'm not massively inclined to be fair to Chris, but his apology was more than a lot of the woman beating rapists still working in entertainment have done, so I don't think he should be blacklisted forever. But he needs to pay his dues and work his way back up while he grows up, and the controversy of his being there would have overshadowed the celebrations surrounding the final series. I didn't agree with the choice to wipe him from the footage completely, but I get why they did it.
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Old 11-03-2014, 19:38
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Why would someone who "raps" about raping women have a place on a show aimed at families?
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Old 11-03-2014, 21:07
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So, under no circumstances will you accept that he should be given the chance to rehabilitate himself and rebuild his career? You will not accept that people can do wrong and should be allowed to put it behind them?
So you think that everyone should be given a second chance no matter what as long as it's based on fan obsession?

There is a thing called punishment where you pay for what you do, not get a little smack on the wrist and then let off because some thing you are cute.

So the facts yet again: He is being punished as he should for his own actions which were freely his choice.

If only all criminals were cute as then there would be no prison over-crowding as they would all be let off by people whose morals are driven by their sex-drive.
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Old 11-03-2014, 21:09
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Why would someone who "raps" about raping women have a place on a show aimed at families?
Oh but he is cute and apparently a good skater.
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Old 11-03-2014, 21:20
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So you think that everyone should be given a second chance no matter what as long as it's based on fan obsession?

There is a thing called punishment where you pay for what you do, not get a little smack on the wrist and then let off because some thing you are cute.

So the facts yet again: He is being punished as he should for his own actions which were freely his choice.

If only all criminals were cute as then there would be no prison over-crowding as they would all be let off by people whose morals are driven by their sex-drive.
What is your problem? What is this nonsense you spout about fan obsession? As I am not a fan of Mr Fountain (nearly said Chris) where do I fit in? Should he have been on DOI this year - of course not as it would have caused a lot of upset. But, this does not mean that he should not get the chance to rebuild his career over time.

As to the BIB - truly pathetic comment which I will treat with the contempt it deserves.
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Old 14-03-2014, 01:11
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Why would someone who "raps" about raping women have a place on a show aimed at families?
He was playing a character! Ray Quinn's character in Brookside killed someone, should he also not be on a family show?

I feel very sorry for Chris Fountain. I don't think he deserved to lose his job on ITV and from the clips I've seen on YouTube he would have deserved a place on the final series of DOI.
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Old 15-03-2014, 04:40
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He was playing a character! Ray Quinn's character in Brookside killed someone, should he also not be on a family show?
The difference is Ray didn't write his storyline, whereas Chris, presumably, wrote the rap lyrics. Therefore ITV probably think Chris is rather sick-minded.
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