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BT now offering 300mb Infinity
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zx50
20-03-2014
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“I'll check when I'm down in PZ again, the house there has FTTP.”

Well, it does say 'up to' 30Mbits upload in the link below. I can't understand why there should be an 'up to' with a pure fibre connection. Unless the sending speed depends on how fast your hardware is.

https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/st...ises/index.htm
d'@ve
20-03-2014
Originally Posted by zx50:
“Well, it does say 'up to' 30Mbits upload in the link below. I can't understand why there should be an 'up to' with a pure fibre connection. Unless the sending speed depends on how fast your hardware is.

https://www.btwholesale.com/pages/st...ises/index.htm”

That's BT Wholesale, who do not sell direct to domestic customers. BT Retail, who do, seem to have chosen not to offer the 30Mbps upload option but information is sketchy on their website. But I found the following page which seems to say 20Mbps upload is the most they will offer on BT Infinity 3 or 4 (FTTP):

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...aster-internet

I regularly get a genuine 19.2Mbps upload (and 72Mbps download) on my FTTC Infinity 2 package and that's faster than the fastest download I ever got on standard broadband. I think very few people would find the faster FTTP packages cost effective (200Mbps £42pm, 300Mbps £52pm) including me.
zx50
20-03-2014
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“That's BT Wholesale, who do not sell direct to domestic customers. BT Retail, who do, seem to have chosen not to offer the 30Mbps upload option but information is sketchy on their website. But I found the following page which seems to say 20Mbps upload is the most they will offer on BT Infinity 3 or 4 (FTTP):

http://www.productsandservices.bt.co...aster-internet

I regularly get a genuine 19.2Mbps upload (and 72Mbps download) on my FTTC Infinity 2 package and that's faster than the fastest download I ever got on standard broadband. I think very few people would find the faster FTTP packages cost effective (200Mbps £42pm, 300Mbps £52pm) including me.”

It's the only BT site where I could find an FTTP upload speed mentioned. I mustn't have seen the 20Mbits in the link you've put up. I visited that page today but didn't see the mention of the upload speed. That's why I put the other link up. I think the higher speed FTTP packages would be totally overkill. My FTTC connection only gets maxed out sometimes when using torrents. My upload regularly gets maxed out when using torrents though.
Rossby41
21-03-2014
Originally Posted by OMTT:
“Will speeds like this ever be possible with FTTC?”

Maybe, BT have been trialing something called Vectoring. Basically it a system designed to calumniate crosstalk. I could in theory offer speeds of upto 200mbps.

More info here.
lonewaller
21-03-2014
Originally Posted by Rossby41:
“Maybe, BT have been trialing something called Vectoring. Basically it a system designed to calumniate crosstalk. I could in theory offer speeds of upto 200mbps.

More info here.”

BT don't appear to have made up their minds yet but Ireland looks to be deploying it.
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/6...n-ireland.html

Brian
Jez_Gafys
21-03-2014
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“BT FTTP is better than VM Cable, as it doesn't traffic manage nearly as aggressively.”

There is no traffic management on VM downloads on uploads.

On a side note I have FTTP and I get around 120mb upload and about 98 download
d'@ve
21-03-2014
Originally Posted by Jez_Gafys:
“There is no traffic management on VM downloads on uploads.”

According to the current traffic management thread in the VM board on here, only packages above 30Mbps have 'none', and they all have a get-out clause for certain traffic types as per below (but BT's Unlimited packages don't):

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“In addition to this, we also apply a temporary speed limit to all peer-to-peer and Newsgroup traffic during peak times to ensure that they do not slow the network down for everyone. For more information please see the tables below. ”

Originally Posted by Jez_Gafys:
“On a side note I have FTTP and I get around 120mb upload and about 98 download”

Presumably that isn't a BT Retail product for domestic users? Who does it and for how much?
zx50
21-03-2014
Originally Posted by Jez_Gafys:
“There is no traffic management on VM downloads on uploads.

On a side note I have FTTP and I get around 120mb upload and about 98 download”

That's a bit back to front, isn't it?
Paul237
24-03-2014
I can get between 32 - 41 Mbps on BT Infinity (though I usually get around 36 - 37) yet my Grandma can get 79 - 80 Mbps despite being further from her exchange.

Do they eventually upgrade all exchanges, or is it just pot luck?
Resonance
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by Paul237:
“I can get between 32 - 41 Mbps on BT Infinity (though I usually get around 36 - 37) yet my Grandma can get 79 - 80 Mbps despite being further from her exchange.

Do they eventually upgrade all exchanges, or is it just pot luck?”

In your cases it's the distance from the cabinet that counts. Most of BT infinity is fibre to the cabinet, then the normal copper phone line between the cabinet and you.

The faster 300Mb speeds been talked about is fibre to the premises, i.e. all the way to your house. This is not available in many areas though.
Paul237
26-03-2014
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“In your cases it's the distance from the cabinet that counts. Most of BT infinity is fibre to the cabinet, then the normal copper phone line between the cabinet and you.

The faster 300Mb speeds been talked about is fibre to the premises, i.e. all the way to your house. This is not available in many areas though.”

I was just talking about BT Infinity 2, rather than 300Mb speeds.
Resonance
26-03-2014
Originally Posted by Paul237:
“I was just talking about BT Infinity 2, rather than 300Mb speeds.”

It's the distance from the cabinet that counts then. Your Grandma is likely closer to her cabinet than you are to yours.
PudpullerTM
26-03-2014
Originally Posted by Jez_Gafys:
“There is no traffic management on VM downloads on uploads.

On a side note I have FTTP and I get around 120mb upload and about 98 download”

who supplies your FTTP ?
Madsocks
27-03-2014
Originally Posted by de525ma:
“Yeah they are rolling out FTTP in a few areas in the UK - Penzance for example. Usually where they have been given some incentive (eg BDUK funding) to do so.

Are you in a non-infinity area, or are you one of the poor souls who are directly cabled to the exchange?”

Nah, I'm just a poor b*****d that bought a new build in a development where Virgin Media couldn't be arsed to lay cables down. Our options for internet are currently BT and err, BT. Even the crappy 1 bed flat where I was living temporary in a rough ass area had Virgin Media.

Apparently there are rumours that our local exchange is being upgraded at the end of this month.

To say I won't be holding my breath is an understatement.....
Madsocks
28-03-2014
My god, I've gone on today and was able to order BT Infinity.

The unthinkable actually has happened.....
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