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I wasn't talking about those who listen to this type of dross, I was talking about the dross. Why do people feel the need to defend what they listen to, just listen to it. But like it or not, its utter crap.
And the reason why bands like Opeth never get the success is because there is always a shit Tenacious D that people will lap up. Although I think Opeth are a bit gash, some of its alright, not my cup of tea though. But at least its music, I dont like it but I can hear talent and music in it, its not a souless money grab using the same tired cliches over and over again. Then again I had fad music, that type of comedy/trash that is made to sell shit by the numbers. At least have some musical intent, not just "oh this will sell and get bums on seats, people will love to hear a couple of Japanese birds who cannot sing screech over some generic metal". Also, if it was 3 fat birds who were not great looking would anyone care? or 3 females who just dressed in the heavy metal dress code (t shirt with band name on, jeans, sneakers/flats/hitops/boots)? or what if it was 3 dudes who couldnt sing like these cannot? No one would care. But because they are dressed like school girls its all awesome. Not to mention people will vomit hate over the likes of savile and rolfie harris but the endless stream of young sexualised girls is all ok. Just watch "Hit me baby one more time" and tell me that they never intended a young school girl to be sexy. Its the hypocrisy. I like a wide variety of music really. Your dross is another persons favourite band, it doesn't matter to me who likes what or not. I wouldn't care how they looked, like I said I don't watch music videos that often. I like some deadly serious bands, but I also like some not so serious bands. It just depends on my mood really. |
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Not to mention people will vomit hate over the likes of savile and rolfie harris but the endless stream of young sexualised girls is all ok. Just watch "Hit me baby one more time" and tell me that they never intended a young school girl to be sexy. Its the hypocrisy.
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Also, if it was 3 fat birds who were not great looking would anyone care? or 3 females who just dressed in the heavy metal dress code (t shirt with band name on, jeans, sneakers/flats/hitops/boots)? or what if it was 3 dudes who couldnt sing like these cannot? No one would care. But because they are dressed like school girls its all awesome.
Not to mention people will vomit hate over the likes of savile and rolfie harris but the endless stream of young sexualised girls is all ok. Just watch "Hit me baby one more time" and tell me that they never intended a young school girl to be sexy. Its the hypocrisy. |
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Why do so many of their detractors sound so angry?
If I was being a pedant, i'd rather they say "I think it's shit" rather than a blanket declaration that "it's just shit" but that's by the by, as they say. Me, I love Babymetal. It's one of the most creative albums I've heard in years and I certainly intend to follow the band to see if they can maintain that level. |
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For me, it's because people are simply passionate in what they listen to and like and I have to respect that. Sure, I have a never ending desire to tease genre purists because they're just that - genre purists - but when it comes down to it, they're as passionate about what they listen to and like as i am.
If I was being a pedant, i'd rather they say "I think it's shit" rather than a blanket declaration that "it's just shit" but that's by the by, as they say. Me, I love Babymetal. It's one of the most creative albums I've heard in years and I certainly intend to follow the band to see if they can maintain that level. |
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I understand being passionate about what you like .I don't understand being so bothered about what other people like, but each to their own.
But then if Babymetal serves as somewhat of a gateway in to "real" metal then isn't that a good thing ? |
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It's all part of the same thing i think. I think some people would see something like Babymetal as somewhat of a bastardization of "their" genre so it bothers them that people listening to it aren't actually listening to "real" metal.
But then if Babymetal serves as somewhat of a gateway in to "real" metal then isn't that a good thing ? I see this on last.fm sometimes with people squabbling over genres, I feel like saying, gawd, just enjoy the music or don't, does it really matter what category it is in? It doesn't affect your music in any way. Some music is just more difficult to catagorise and that's no bad thing, case in point ![]() I like tons of metal bands. Most of the music I like is metal (or distantly related to it ), though I do like a wide variety of genres. To me, metal was always more about pushing the envelope anyway, and I think this is new and different and does that for me. I'm not really bothered if it gets people into metal either to be honest, I just know I like it. I can like this and Opeth, Amorphis, Tool, Katatonia, Therion etc... too. Mind you some of those are probably the type of odd, genre fusing bands that'd annoy the genre purists too. Oh well
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I understand being passionate about what you like .I don't understand being so bothered about what other people like, but each to their own.
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I think the reason for that is that a very high percentage of the threads in this music section seem to be created by record company PR staff who are being paid to manipulate social media.
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I think the reason for that is that a very high percentage of the threads in this music section seem to be created by record company PR staff who are being paid to manipulate social media.
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I have been suspicious at times with all the sales figures that get quoted. But I least I know I'm not one of them.
You get a similar thing with 'new video' type threads. Something else I'm not arsed about, I just get the album when it comes out. |
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Are they as good as The Cycle Sluts From Hell?
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I think the reason for that is that a very high percentage of the threads in this music section seem to be created by record company PR staff who are being paid to manipulate social media.
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I'd rather listen to Jedward.
But gave baby metal a watch rather fun having so many musical styles in one song! |
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That's the thing isn't it, it isn't 'their' genre, I know that's probably why you put it in commas
I see this on last.fm sometimes with people squabbling over genres, I feel like saying, gawd, just enjoy the music or don't, does it really matter what category it is in? It doesn't affect your music in any way. Some music is just more difficult to catagorise and that's no bad thing, case in point ![]() I like tons of metal bands. Most of the music I like is metal (or distantly related to it ), though I do like a wide variety of genres. To me, metal was always more about pushing the envelope anyway, and I think this is new and different and does that for me. I'm not really bothered if it gets people into metal either to be honest, I just know I like it. I can like this and Opeth, Amorphis, Tool, Katatonia, Therion etc... too. Mind you some of those are probably the type of odd, genre fusing bands that'd annoy the genre purists too. Oh well ![]() Metal as a genre now covers such a vast array of influences that to me there is no such thing as "pure" metal, and that is based on being a fan of the genre since the late 70s. Most metal bands encompass numerous "sub-genres" so they could never be described as being a "pure" metal band. |
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I have never understood the whole thing about "genre purists" either, especially when it comes to Metal.
Metal as a genre now covers such a vast array of influences that to me there is no such thing as "pure" metal (shouldn't that be base metal?), and that is based on being a fan of the genre since the late 70s. Most metal bands encompass numerous "sub-genres" (do you mean alloys?) so they could never be described as being a "pure" metal band. |
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Rather than start a new thread...
Is anyone else going to see Babymetal at Wembley Arena on Saturday? |
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Rather than start a new thread...
Is anyone else going to see Babymetal at Wembley Arena on Saturday? |
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The new album Metal Resistance is out tomorrow.
This is the lead single Karate - http://youtu.be/GvD3CHA48pA |
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The new album Metal Resistance is out tomorrow.
This is the lead single Karate - http://youtu.be/GvD3CHA48pA
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"Awadama Fever" ..
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It's "out" already if you wanted a preview listen - a 'try before you buy' if you will
![]() Just from Karate and The One you can see the progression to a more maturer sound.
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I thought as much, but I'm going to be good!
Just from Karate and The One you can see the progression to a more maturer sound.![]() Mature sound is spot on - there's an honest to goodness mid-tempo "rock" ballad on the album ! |
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I wonder how many Metal fans will actively seek out other J-Pop music now?
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I see this on last.fm sometimes with people squabbling over genres, I feel like saying, gawd, just enjoy the music or don't, does it really matter what category it is in? It doesn't affect your music in any way. Some music is just more difficult to catagorise and that's no bad thing, case in point 
), though I do like a wide variety of genres. To me, metal was always more about pushing the envelope anyway, and I think this is new and different and does that for me. I'm not really bothered if it gets people into metal either to be honest, I just know I like it. I can like this and Opeth, Amorphis, Tool, Katatonia, Therion etc... too. Mind you some of those are probably the type of odd, genre fusing bands that'd annoy the genre purists too. Oh well

