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Just how massive does the Great White Shark get?
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Keyser_Soze1
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by roger_purvis:
“I beg to differ. Seeing a gw in the flesh looks like the grim reaper in fish form. A raggy is his puppy by comparison.”

I agree it is the grim reaper - the largest look like a submarine with teeth!
dee123
08-08-2014
All i know is that you don't go into the waters off Western Australia.
Keyser_Soze1
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by dee123:
“All i know is that you don't go into the waters off Western Australia.”

Why don't you for a nice swim in the river instead?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...42_964x669.jpg
FIN-MAN
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Why don't you for a nice swim in the river instead?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...42_964x669.jpg”

Will someone tell Betty White to quit feeding the damn Crocs!
roger_purvis
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by dee123:
“All i know is that you don't go into the waters off Western Australia.”

You have to be careful. Same in SA. There are usually a few attacks each year in SA. One girl I dived with would not go in the water. She just wanted to see them from the boat because she had a friend who had recently been attacked. This was part of the process of coming to terms with it. Statistically if you think of all the dips in the sea taken in SA each year by all people only 3 or 4 result in shark attack. As long as you are sensible you shouldn't end up as nobby's dinner.
roger_purvis
08-08-2014
Here is a quick drive by. He is about three metres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi12...ature=youtu.be

Vis wasnt great which made it a bit spookier. Sorry for the quality not being great. i only had a rubbish camera that i had bodged to use underwater.
Keyser_Soze1
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by roger_purvis:
“Here is a quick drive by. He is about three metres.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi12...ature=youtu.be

Vis wasnt great which made it a bit spookier. Sorry for the quality not being great. i only had a rubbish camera that i had bodged to use underwater.”

Brilliant stuff.

I am glad I revived this thread now.
dee123
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“Why don't you for a nice swim in the river instead?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...42_964x669.jpg”

It's a no to that whole big state then.
dee123
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by roger_purvis:
“You have to be careful. Same in SA. There are usually a few attacks each year in SA. One girl I dived with would not go in the water. She just wanted to see them from the boat because she had a friend who had recently been attacked. This was part of the process of coming to terms with it. Statistically if you think of all the dips in the sea taken in SA each year by all people only 3 or 4 result in shark attack. As long as you are sensible you shouldn't end up as nobby's dinner.”

Why would anybody willing go to South Australia
roger_purvis
08-08-2014
As for how big they get, I believe they have sighted big females in the 7-8 metre range. I love them but am also terrified by them.
roger_purvis
08-08-2014
This is a great (but scary) sighting off florida.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=owbFQWijMqI
FIN-MAN
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“There are two apex predators in the ocean in my opinion.

Despite the endless bullshit on Youtube about the one recorded example of two adult Orcas using tonic immobility on a very young white shark, a fully mature adult has nothing to fear from anything.

But I agree that Orcas are simply magnificent and possibly the most intelligent animal on the planet - they are another real favourite of mine.

And as for Megalodon, that was the largest and most powerful predator that has ever lived on this planet.

Even more formidable than Livyatan, or any of the giant Pliosaurs or Mosasaurs.

At a maximum length of 20 metres and over 100 tons this creature's existence belongs in science fiction rather than the incredible reality. ”

Hey Keyser, is this the video that you are talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8oIv0NVKz8
Blanche-Hunt
08-08-2014
One of my faves,the Great White Shark,absolutely love them.That video of Ocean Ramsey free diving with one has got to be one of the best things ive seen
Keyser_Soze1
08-08-2014
Originally Posted by FIN-MAN:
“Hey Keyser, is this the video that you are talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8oIv0NVKz8”

That is not the documentary I watched but that is the same incident from 1997.

Really it means absolutely bugger all despite all the endless bullshit on the net about it (and the other sharks did not 'flee' - they migrate every year which was not known at the time).

It is the one reliably recorded event in the whole of history - the white shark was a juvenile and the whales adults.

Great whites are quite capable of killing their own kind if a smaller shark really pisses a larger specimen off - so why this orca incident gets all the hype is beyond me.

There are no accounts of a fully mature white shark being attacked by anything - orcas and white sharks seem to avoid each other.
Sick n Sexified
08-08-2014
I know they're not actually that dangerous with humans but they still scare me. It's the eyes, they described it perfectly in Jaws. "Like Dolls eyes".

I find it hard to watch Jaws without covering my eyes when the sharks on screen. To this day I've never seen the "bigger boat scene" properly. I was told when the shock was coming so have never looked! It's frustrating because it's such an incredible film.

I think the main reason for the films success is that you don't actually see the shark a lot of the time, so even wussies like me can watch it.
TelevisionUser
09-08-2014
Just how massive does the Great White Shark get?

Dunno, but we do know that everyone's afraid of them !: http://38.media.tumblr.com/e362021b0...7ovo1_1280.jpg
Keyser_Soze1
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Sick n Sexified:
“I know they're not actually that dangerous with humans but they still scare me. It's the eyes, they described it perfectly in Jaws. "Like Dolls eyes".

I find it hard to watch Jaws without covering my eyes when the sharks on screen. To this day I've never seen the "bigger boat scene" properly. I was told when the shock was coming so have never looked! It's frustrating because it's such an incredible film.

I think the main reason for the films success is that you don't actually see the shark a lot of the time, so even wussies like me can watch it. ”

Peter Matthiessen once beautifully described the white shark thus -

"The shark passed slowly, first the slack jaw with the triangular splayed teeth, then the dark eye, impenetrable and empty as the eye of God, next the gill slits like knife slashes in paper, then the pale slab of the flank, aflow with silver ripplings of light, and finally the thick short twitch of its hard tail. Its aspect was less savage than implacable, a silent thing of merciless serenity."

Blue Meridian: The Search for the Great White Shark

And Herman Melville also mentioned this remarkable predator -

"This elusive quality it is, which causes the thought of whiteness, when divorced from more kindly associations, and coupled with any object terrible in itself, to heighten that terror to the furthest bounds. Witness the white bear of the Poles, and the white shark of the Tropics; what but their smooth, flaky whiteness makes them the transcendent horrors they are? That ghastly whiteness it is which imparts such an abhorrent mildness, even more loathsome than terrific, to the dumb gloating of their aspect. So that not the fierce-fanged tiger in his heraldic coat can so stagger courage as the white-shrouded bear or shark."


Moby Dick.

And here is another photo of poor little Jumbo - looking so timid and small next to the shark cage.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...e471f224f39afc
Keyser_Soze1
09-08-2014
A very nice little video on ten facts you may not have known about white sharks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69uqDIhr60

And another photograph of the awe-inspiring Brindabella - not much smaller than Jaws was supposed to be (she is over six metres long and tremendously bulky).

https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/...11311327_o.jpg
Keyser_Soze1
09-08-2014
Originally Posted by Blanche-Hunt:
“One of my faves,the Great White Shark,absolutely love them.That video of Ocean Ramsey free diving with one has got to be one of the best things ive seen”

Yes it's a really beautiful sight - and the shark is not too bad either!

Here are some excellent short videos of another massive carnivorous predator very few people have ever seen in it's natural deep-sea environment - the Bluntnose Sixgill shark, (Hexanchus griseus)- some of these are real monsters far larger than the 4.8 - 5.5 metres usually stated as the maximum size - and I love the long smooth look of the animal with it's small dorsal fin so far back on it's body.

The only deep-sea sharks larger than this are the several gigantic species of sleeper shark (Somniosus) that I briefly mentioned on this thread.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5U3FI4_85E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHuvs9Qqa5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb70g8bKwGI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuIy7Dl0teQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00SOMpc8diw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHfAjWZX2Z0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_IMFCOq-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkGqRaLYLuI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av3DFf9xc-g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuIffTFqOI
Keyser_Soze1
09-08-2014
A great news story containing some excellent videos about how advanced technology is being used to discover the intelligence, behaviour and hunting strategies of the white shark.

I would definately not want to be an elephant seal - even in some of the clearest water in the world (as here) you just would never see them coming for you.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/8/598...t-white-attack
Keyser_Soze1
13-08-2014
For those of you who watch Shark Week on the Discovery Channel please remember to take a lot of it with a massive pinch of salt.

In recent years it has by all accounts (I only have Freeview unfortunately) become totally dumbed-down, sensationalist tabloid trash - containing blatant fraud, lies, manipulation and deceit.

This really is such a huge shame as the channel has both the money and the viewing figures to educate and inform the public about the true biology and behaviour of sharks - not make the situation even worse with scaremongering bollocks.

These are just a few articles on the sorry subject.

http://io9.com/shark-week-lied-to-sc...-in-1619280737

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/sc.../#.U-qkm_ldXuL

http://www.trackingsharks.com/shark-week-scam/

http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/08/shark-w...-by-discovery/

http://www.southernfriedscience.com/?p=17533

http://www.southernfriedscience.com/?p=17392
Keyser_Soze1
15-08-2014
I have (quite rightly) strongly criticised the Discovery channel's Shark Week on this thread.

However this particular documentary looks much more interesting - I just wish I could watch the whole programme.

In this brief clip is an absolutely massive female white shark called 'Deep Blue' she is almost 6.8 metres in length according to the video - and may well be the largest white shark ever to be filmed.

Simply awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB83-5ZXaTY
FIN-MAN
15-08-2014
Yeah some of the shows they put on Shark Week NOW can be cringe worthy but if you like sharks it is still must see TV. I know that there are some professionals that take issue with Discovery with the way they have sensationalized some of the shows but... having a massively popular series with a full week of shark shows only benefits shark conservation. Now if we could only get the Asian countries to start watching Shark Week.
FIN-MAN
15-08-2014
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“I have (quite rightly) strongly criticised the Discovery channel's Shark Week on this thread.

However this particular documentary looks much more interesting - I just wish I could watch the whole programme.

In this brief clip is an absolutely massive female white shark called 'Deep Blue' she is almost 6.8 metres in length according to the video - and may well be the largest white shark ever to be filmed.

Simply awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB83-5ZXaTY”

I watched that episode the other night. I don't know if you caught the whole episode but the way they were using the ROV's to track the sharks was very cool. Funny think was that they wanted to follow the sharks to watch it attack a seal from the deep but the only think that kept happening was the sharks were attacking the ROV.
Keyser_Soze1
15-08-2014
Originally Posted by FIN-MAN:
“I watched that episode the other night. I don't know if you caught the whole episode but the way they were using the ROV's to track the sharks was very cool. Funny think was that they wanted to follow the sharks to watch it attack a seal from the deep but the only think that kept happening was the sharks were attacking the ROV.”

It sounds very interesting but I only have Freeview so I am unable to watch the whole programme. I totally agree with you about the disgusting practice of finning - and all for f****g tasteless soup.

Cartilage by itself has no flavour at all, it's just a bullshit 'status symbol' for the wealthy.

I just wish the BBC would do something similar - a Shark Week without all the sensationalism - just the facts.

This site is running a series on sharks at the moment.

http://observationdeck.io9.com/

The articles are ok and I have always loved the idea of the Cookie-cutter shark - those really nasty little bastards who will take a perfectly circular plug of flesh out of any larger animal (and even attack nuclear submarines).

http://observationdeck.io9.com/odeck...ery-1619830734

http://observationdeck.io9.com/odeck...oom-1621286112

http://observationdeck.io9.com/odeck...les-1620495981

http://observationdeck.io9.com/odeck...ens-1621989437
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