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whats flash.. do you have to pay for it. i havent got ' flash player' on my ipad
No, the iPad doesn't support Flash - neither do most recent Android tabs either - at least officially... |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash_Player
No, the iPad doesn't support Flash - neither do most recent Android tabs either - at least officially... |
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Care to toss us some examples? ...
If you go to html5test.com you will see the lack of features web designers have to cope with though that is only part of it. Fancy stuff not working means many web apps are no go on IOS. At least with 7.1 Apple did manage to alleviate some of the memory problems of IOS though I suspect their browser support will always be lacklustre. Allowing WebGL to run only via paid iAds in a web browser only is a crafty move. Yet for good long term financial reasons they mainly want web developers doing native, thus non portable apps. |
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Maybe it is a case of 'what you don't have you don't miss'.
If you go to html5test.com So Safari iOS scores better than Safari OSX and is not that far behind Firefox for the desktop but, in your opinion only, is crippled as browsers go. Glad we sorted that out, then. |
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Cant say I've noticed a problem on iOS with websites recently. A while back the only site I had a problem with was the BBC but almost all video/audio plays and the ones that don't aren't worth worrying about. Better to be safe and bug free than watch video.
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Whilst it may have been an issue a few years ago, I can't remember the last time I tried to watch a video on my tablet or smartphone and wasn't able to. That not only applies to my iPad, but also to my Nexus 4 which also doesn't have flash installed.
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Ok then. iOS 7.1 Safari 412 out of 555. Not too shabby. Safari 6.1.2 (OSX) 397. Uhh OK. Chrome 33 (Mac) 505. Not full marks *sadface*; Firefox 28 (Mac) 448 poor.
So Safari iOS scores better than Safari OSX and is not that far behind Firefox for the desktop but, in your opinion only, is crippled as browsers go. Glad we sorted that out, then. |
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... Better to be safe and bug free than watch video.
Restricting 3D support in the browser/web app to iAds only a the main eye opener though. Like I said, what you don't have you don't miss. Most companies will offer up an IOS app instead and anyway, the web app on IOS will simply limit what you see, just like Nokia did before they abandoned Nokia Here on IOS. Nokia more likely removed it to grab a headline about that lower user experience on the IOS browsers. Users on IOS should be allowed to install a web engine to help prevent this clever limiting monopolisation of the web. |
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Its not that Apple lags well behind the near 500+ HTML 5 scores obtained in other platforms its the restriction of features.
Restricting 3D support in the browser/web app to iAds only a the main eye opener though. Like I said, what you don't have you don't miss. Most companies will offer up an IOS app instead and anyway, the web app on IOS will simply limit what you see, just like Nokia did before they abandoned Nokia Here on IOS. Nokia more likely removed it to grab a headline about that lower user experience on the IOS browsers. Users on IOS should be allowed to install a web engine to help prevent this clever limiting monopolisation of the web. I'd rather sacrifice a few browser features for the richest and most diverse tablet App ecosystem on the planet. And getting back to the issue of speed, didn't the iPad Air wipe the floor in browser performance, beating everything apart from Surface 2? That was 6 months ago - perhaps the landscape has changed since then; for all I know since then Samsung have released 3 new tabs in 4 different sizes in a desperate attempt to keep up. |
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95% of the internet will work fine with an iPad and the latest iPad is practically as quick at loading pages as most laptops/desktops now. Clearly the issue here is either wifi or isp related.
Anyone still running a public website that requires flash for it to work these days really needs to have their head examined. |
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Mobile computing i.e. tablets and phones have spawned another and different generation of the browsing public. The new generation don't want to fiddle with the hardware or OS, even if they know how to. Apple have created a walled garden for this generation, they don't have or want to worry about add ons, side loading, jail breaking, bugs or viruses they just want to be able to have a problem free experience. The iPad gives them this and more. Any web site or developer that wants to be mainstream and doesn't cater for this will get left behind. That isn't to say that Android is dead but it needs to improve to maintain its viability in this market.
Now to return to the OP's question, again the problem is unlikely to be the iPad and more likely to be the ISP's management of its bandwidth, his own wifi environment or a combination of both. |
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Mobile computing i.e. tablets and phones have spawned another and different generation of the browsing public. The new generation don't want to fiddle with the hardware or OS, even if they know how to. Apple have created a walled garden for this generation, they don't have or want to worry about add ons, side loading, jail breaking, bugs or viruses they just want to be able to have a problem free experience. The iPad gives them this and more. Any web site or developer that wants to be mainstream and doesn't cater for this will get left behind. That isn't to say that Android is dead but it needs to improve to maintain its viability in this market.
Now to return to the OP's question, again the problem is unlikely to be the iPad and more likely to be the ISP's management of its bandwidth, his own wifi environment or a combination of both. |
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...the web app on IOS will simply limit what you see, just like Nokia did before they abandoned Nokia Here on IOS.
Nokia more likely removed it to grab a headline about that lower user experience on the IOS browsers. Users on IOS should be allowed to install a web engine to help prevent this clever limiting monopolisation of the web. |
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Me hijacking a thread again - sorry. On my ipad, when I make a spelling error a correction in blue comes up. How does one use the word in blue?
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Me hijacking a thread again - sorry. On my ipad, when I make a spelling error a correction in blue comes up. How does one use the word in blue?
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Nokia's problem for Here is they didn't have viable market share on iOS - it really was that simple. ..
We don't know the full reason but as a web app it certainly had would have Apple's limitations imposed. |
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I thought it was a web app, and being so Apple's controlling web engine stops features from existing.
We don't know the full reason but as a web app it certainly had would have Apple's limitations imposed. As I say Google Maps also does work as a web app. Albeit performance is not as good as the native app. It's also far more convenient running in the background as proper app, providing navigation notifications and messages etc. rather then as a web page. 'Here' was very late to the market on iOS and had no chance against well established offerings like Google Maps IMHO. Out of interest I wonder what Here's market share is on Android? I suspect it's not much. |
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...Perhaps some features don't work properly, but it's not immediately apparent what they are?...
Its the same reason many web games can never work, Apple only lets you use WebGL for iAds in a browser. |
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No 3D web browser features allowed/.
Its the same reason many web games can never work, Apple only lets you use WebGL for iAds in a browser. |
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Just press the space key.
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