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iPad Mini problems since OS update.
casablancauk
24-03-2014
I have had my iPad mini since last July and I have never has any sort of problems with it. Since the ios update to 7.1 it is driving me mad.
Battery usage has increased I estimate by around 20%/25%.Normally, most mornings when I put it on charge I am down to74/79%. I'm not a heavy user. Now in the mornings it can be as low as 49% but more usually 50% odd.
The email program has a life of it's own. It's constantly updating while I am trying to read a mail, with the mail dancing about in the column and sometimes disappearing.
If I move a mail to notes and then go to it later, email crashes.
Lord no where some of the mails go.
Safari now has a habit of just stopping for no reason. Chrome runs perfectly normally.
I bought the iPad to compliment the excellent Blackberry Playbook, but support and apps for it are limited and doesn't have the useabilty of the iPad.
I am now using the Playbook more and more just so I can get on. No email or internet problems on this by the way. I have rebooted several times without any improvement.
Rodney McKay
24-03-2014
Originally Posted by casablancauk:
“I have had my iPad mini since last July and I have never has any sort of problems with it. Since the ios update to 7.1 it is driving me mad.
Battery usage has increased I estimate by around 20%/25%.Normally, most mornings when I put it on charge I am down to74/79%. I'm not a heavy user. Now in the mornings it can be as low as 49% but more usually 50% odd.
The email program has a life of it's own. It's constantly updating while I am trying to read a mail, with the mail dancing about in the column and sometimes disappearing.
If I move a mail to notes and then go to it later, email crashes.
Lord no where some of the mails go.
Safari now has a habit of just stopping for no reason. Chrome runs perfectly normally.
I bought the iPad to compliment the excellent Blackberry Playbook, but support and apps for it are limited and doesn't have the useabilty of the iPad.
I am now using the Playbook more and more just so I can get on. No email or internet problems on this by the way. I have rebooted several times without any improvement.”

Have you checked bluetooth is turned off, that you don't have background apps refresh on etc?

Whenever iOS updates lots of things get turned on by default. I don't have push email turned on or location services for most apps etc.

I've found battery life on iOS 7 has been OK for me
casablancauk
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by Rodney McKay:
“Have you checked bluetooth is turned off, that you don't have background apps refresh on etc?

Whenever iOS updates lots of things get turned on by default. I don't have push email turned on or location services for most apps etc.

I've found battery life on iOS 7 has been OK for me”

Yes, everything is off. Every now and then I make sure that all the apps are closed. Still have the problem.
Stig
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by casablancauk:
“Yes, everything is off. Every now and then I make sure that all the apps are closed. Still have the problem.”

Have you tried a complete restore from backup?

Are you using the standard Mail app? What kind of email accounts are you using; Exchange, Gmail, IMAP etc?
zapod
25-03-2014
Rodney's right - some things that were turned off get turned on again during an update...

It could be the battery needs calibrated - simply let the unit run down until it simply won't wake up with the home button (I call this 'black-screen flat' and blame Minecraft ). Do an overnight charge to 100% then see how it behaves. The iPad - even with Bluetooth and WiFi on should only lose 2-3% in a typical overnight period.

Failing that you could try doing an iTunes backup (over USB), then Restore to factory, then restore the backup... time consuming but sometimes fixes things.
iGeek2014
25-03-2014
I found myself performing a full backup and restore via USB in iTunes on my iPhone 5s.

Despite installing 7.1 I'd noticed a couple of issues that were apparent in 7.0 through 7.06 and these weren't cured until I'd restored my device "as new."

Sure it's a PITA and time consuming but it's cured the problem.

For some reason (and this may have been the case in previous version of iOS) but Apple seem Hellbent on enabling Bluetooth once a device has been updated.
grumpyoldbat
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by iGeek2014:
“I found myself performing a full backup and restore via USB in iTunes on my iPhone 5s.

Despite installing 7.1 I'd noticed a couple of issues that were apparent in 7.0 through 7.06 and these weren't cured until I'd restored my device "as new."

Sure it's a PITA and time consuming but it's cured the problem.

For some reason (and this may have been the case in previous version of iOS) but Apple seem Hellbent on enabling Bluetooth once a device has been updated.”

I asked a guy in the Apple store "what's with the switching on of the Bluetooth". He gave the impression that it's because they're going to use it more for iBeacons: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/21/...port-ibeacons/
zapod
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“I asked a guy in the Apple store "what's with the switching on of the Bluetooth". He gave the impression that it's because they're going to use it more for iBeacons: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/21/...port-ibeacons/”

I leave Bluetooth on - it doesn't seem to take too much of hit on the battery whether it's idle or (for example) streaming to BT speakers.
iGeek2014
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“I asked a guy in the Apple store "what's with the switching on of the Bluetooth". He gave the impression that it's because they're going to use it more for iBeacons: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/21/...port-ibeacons/”

It makes sense.... but I'd rather they focus on Siri and Passbook (amongst others) first.
zapod
25-03-2014
Originally Posted by iGeek2014:
“It makes sense.... but I'd rather they focus on Siri and Passbook (amongst others) first.”

I actually used Passbook tickets for the cinema recently... Was a bit weird offering my phone up to the usher for verification but the whole process was remarkably smooth.
RichmondBlue
26-03-2014
Originally Posted by zapod:
“Rodney's right - some things that were turned off get turned on again during an update...

It could be the battery needs calibrated - simply let the unit run down until it simply won't wake up with the home button (I call this 'black-screen flat' and blame Minecraft ). Do an overnight charge to 100% then see how it behaves. The iPad - even with Bluetooth and WiFi on should only lose 2-3% in a typical overnight period.

Failing that you could try doing an iTunes backup (over USB), then Restore to factory, then restore the backup... time consuming but sometimes fixes things.”

That's good advice to everyone actually. I was told years ago that continually "topping up" the battery doesn't do it any good at all. Every now and then let the battery run down completely, that was the advice I was given and I've never had any problems.
Your 2-3% sounds about the same as I normally lose overnight as well.
zapod
26-03-2014
It's worth noting that an iPad with a really drained battery will appear to do nothing when attached to the charger. It's not broken - it will react with the charging chime after a few minutes.
casablancauk
28-03-2014
Reading the iPad link on News Republic it appears that it is generally accepted that IOS 7.01 uses more battery power than previous versions. There is nothing you can do about it other than wait for IOS 8, which rumour has it comes out in the late summer or Autumn. Then, of course, there is no guarantee that Apple will address that issue anyway.
grumpyoldbat
28-03-2014
Originally Posted by casablancauk:
“Reading the iPad link on News Republic it appears that it is generally accepted that IOS 7.01 uses more battery power than previous versions. There is nothing you can do about it other than wait for IOS 8, which rumour has it comes out in the late summer or Autumn. Then, of course, there is no guarantee that Apple will address that issue anyway.”

It's not generally accepted though. Some people are seeing greater battery drain with iOS 7.1, some people, myself included, are seeing better battery life since the last version, and this applies to both iPad and iPhone.

If you're running 7.01 instead of 7.1, you might want to update.
Stig
28-03-2014
Originally Posted by casablancauk:
“Reading the iPad link on News Republic it appears that it is generally accepted that IOS 7.01 uses more battery power than previous versions. There is nothing you can do about it other than wait for IOS 8, which rumour has it comes out in the late summer or Autumn. Then, of course, there is no guarantee that Apple will address that issue anyway.”

If you are seeing battery drain, make sure Bluetooth is turned off if you aren't using it. The updates sometimes turn Bluetooth back on.
casablancauk
29-03-2014
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“It's not generally accepted though. Some people are seeing greater battery drain with iOS 7.1, some people, myself included, are seeing better battery life since the last version, and this applies to both iPad and iPhone.

If you're running 7.01 instead of 7.1, you might want to update. ”

My mistake, I am running 7.1 and as I have said before, Bluetooth and everything else is switched off.
I disagree with Grumpyoldbat. There are many articles, particularly in the American press referring to battery drain on 7.1. Check them out.
Anika Hanson
29-03-2014
The battery life of my ipad mini hasn't changed since update f to 7.1. On the whole performance is a lot better than it was on 7.0
c00kiemonster72
30-03-2014
Originally Posted by Anika Hanson:
“The battery life of my ipad mini hasn't changed since update f to 7.1. On the whole performance is a lot better than it was on 7.0”

Same as
grumpyoldbat
30-03-2014
Read my post. You said it was "generally accepted". I said it's not generally accepted, because there are plenty of people who are NOT having issues. Just because some people are having issues, doesn't mean that it's generally accepted there's a problem. It means, at most, that there are intermittent problems.

People make a lot more time and effort to complain when they have an issue. If they don't have a problem, then you'll usually only see those posts if someone asks if everyone is having an issue.

As you'll see from above, there are a couple of other people who also aren't seeing problems, so it's probably fair to say that the 7.1 update gives issues to some people and not to others. If you're really not happy, take it back to Apple and tell them what you're seeing. They may give you a replacement.
casablancauk
01-04-2014
Originally Posted by grumpyoldbat:
“Read my post. You said it was "generally accepted". I said it's not generally accepted, because there are plenty of people who are NOT having issues. Just because some people are having issues, doesn't mean that it's generally accepted there's a problem. It means, at most, that there are intermittent problems.

People make a lot more time and effort to complain when they have an issue. If they don't have a problem, then you'll usually only see those posts if someone asks if everyone is having an issue.

As you'll see from above, there are a couple of other people who also aren't seeing problems, so it's probably fair to say that the 7.1 update gives issues to some people and not to others. If you're really not happy, take it back to Apple and tell them what you're seeing. They may give you a replacement.”

I suggest you read the links.

http://bgr.com/2014/03/17/ios-7-1-ba...ts-how-to-fix/

http://www.zdnet.com/iphone-ipad-bat...ne-7000027340/


http://macdailynews.com/2014/03/18/r...on-center-bug/

http://9to5mac.com/2014/03/13/ios-7-...battery-drain/
grumpyoldbat
01-04-2014
Yep, I've read ALL of your links, and my point remains; this only affects SOME users. You're saying it's "generally accepted", which to me means it's widespread and affects the majority of users.

Each of those pieces quotes "some users" are affected. It's not quoting widespread issues. As I said previously, people with a problem are likely to be more vocal than those who aren't.

Yes, you're affected and it's causing you an issue, but 3 other people have posted here in response to say they're not seeing any issue. It could be a change in settings, a change in the way that an app behaves under 7.1 or any other combination of possibilities. I'm sure it's very frustrating for you, but it isn't affecting everyone.

As I suggested before, if you're having a problem, go to your local Apple store, or seek out their official support and see if you can get something done. It'll be a lot more effective than complaining on here.
zapod
01-04-2014
To back up grumpy's assertions, we have 4 iOS 7.1 devices in our household and I've not seen any appreciable difference in battery usage in any of them. YMMV.
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