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Old 29-03-2014, 12:05
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I know I started one if these threads a month back but people saying HO is dire ATM has got worse so can someone please can explain whats wrong with it. Recently I've been enjoying it more actually as the gangsters aren't featuring so much anymore and when they do they are normally better than when they were in January. Freddie is still awful but even though Sinead is in it a lot recently Im enjoying her sl. Plus then there is the DV sl, Brownings murdeg which I really enjoyed when they spoke to Sam, Sienna going creepy over Peri is really enjyoyable I am enjoying so far of her brain tumour. The male rape is good when it isn't sensationalist. I'm enjoying HO relationships ATM like Dancy and Dindy plus the murder trio. I'm enjoying the Lomaxes more and I really like Blessing.
Most of the cast is good Frazer is going soon. I just wish Freddie, Sonny, George and Grace left with him. I enjoy it more than the other soaps ATM it isn't perfect but there are only two sls I'm not enjoying is Frindsay and the gangster crap but Frindsay might get better when Joe wakes up which is apparently soon.
Also in glad with the Sinead sl that people won't believe she poisned Katy for too long as they find out soon that she didn't poison Katy.
There is also a possible really good Darren sl coming up and possibly something with Jason.
So can someone please tell me what is wrong with HO?
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:09
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I know I started one if these threads a month back but people saying HO is dire ATM has got worse so can someone please can explain whats wrong with it. Recently I've been enjoying it more actually as the gangsters aren't featuring so much anymore and when they do they are normally better than when they were in January. Freddie is still awful but even though Sinead is in it a lot recently Im enjoying her sl. Plus then there is the DV sl, Brownings murdeg which I really enjoyed when they spoke to Sam, Sienna going creepy over Peri is really enjyoyable I am enjoying so far of her brain tumour. The male rape is good when it isn't sensationalist. I'm enjoying HO relationships ATM like Dancy and Dindy plus the murder trio. I'm enjoying the Lomaxes more and I really like Blessing.
Most of the cast is good Frazer is going soon. I just wish Freddie, Sonny, George and Grace left with him. I enjoy it more than the other soaps ATM it isn't perfect but there are only two sls I'm not enjoying is Frindsay and the gangster crap but Frindsay might get better when Joe wakes up which is apparently soon.
Also in glad with the Sinead sl that people won't believe she poisned Katy for too long as they find out soon that she didn't poison Katy.
There is also a possible really good Darren sl coming up and possibly something with Jason.
So can someone please tell me what is wrong with HO?
Unfortunately I dont have 8 hours to spare.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:20
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Unfortunately I dont have 8 hours to spare.
Can you actually think of anything other than gangsters, Freddie/Frindsay and a tiny bit of sensationalist crap. I was annoyed by the amount of stunts and gangsters but they have toned that down and I'm really enjoying it.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:21
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I think the OTT plots and constant fast paced drama is what is ruining it for me, story lines which could have been iconic and legendary (Maxine and Patrick's abuse storyline, John Paul's rape) have been over-shadowed by the build-up to the next big 'sensational' plots like Baby Katy and Fraser's deaths. I wish they'd have let these two important plots play out and reach their climaxes before they started on Baby Katy's death and Fraser's who dunnit.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:23
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I don't see anything wrong with it, unless people don't like drama being laid on too thickly.
Right now I'd put it second behind Eastenders in terms of enjoyability.
Corrie is so boring right now, I do other things while it's on in the background.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:29
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I think the OTT plots and constant fast paced drama is what is ruining it for me, story lines which could have been iconic and legendary (Maxine and Patrick's abuse storyline, John Paul's rape) have been over-shadowed by the build-up to the next big 'sensational' plots like Baby Katy and Fraser's deaths. I wish they'd have let these two important plots play out and reach their climaxes before they started on Baby Katy's death and Fraser's who dunnit.
Maxine and Patrick is most likely going to come to an end soon I think Nikki Sanderson said in an article it starts to end in March. I like the drama but not when it is ott but I don't think it is.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:29
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I think the OTT plots and constant fast paced drama is what is ruining it for me, story lines which could have been iconic and legendary (Maxine and Patrick's abuse storyline, John Paul's rape) have been over-shadowed by the build-up to the next big 'sensational' plots like Baby Katy and Fraser's deaths. I wish they'd have let these two important plots play out and reach their climaxes before they started on Baby Katy's death and Fraser's who dunnit.
Maxine and Patrick is most likely going to come to an end soon I think Nikki Sanderson said in an article it starts to end in March. I like the drama but not when it is ott but I don't think it is but this is just my opinion you are entitled to yours to.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:31
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Maxine and Patrick is most likely going to come to an end soon I think Nikki Sanderson said in an article it starts to end in March. I like the drama but not when it is ott but I don't think it is.
If it does end soon then I'd like to see it go somewhere else, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with the domestic abuse plot but it will just seem like they've done it just for the sake of it being done if Maxine just gets away from Patrick and splits up with him. I thought they were going to take it somewhere else when Dennis overheard but that was papered over, I thought Sienna was going to discover it a few weeks ago and then rescue Maxine to make her the heroine again and redeem her but that didn't happen either so I'm intrigued what they'll do with it.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:35
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Can you actually think of anything other than gangsters, Freddie/Frindsay and a tiny bit of sensationalist crap. I was annoyed by the amount of stunts and gangsters but they have toned that down and I'm really enjoying it.
the gangsters have just hurt it beyond belief, not only are they awful and uninteresting, not only do they have diabolical sl, not only do they take over the show and the screen time, but they have also bought down so many other characters too. Ste, the Roscoe's etc
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:36
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Maxine and Patrick is most likely going to come to an end soon I think Nikki Sanderson said in an article it starts to end in March. I like the drama but not when it is ott but I don't think it is.
we hardly ever saw it
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:39
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Prominently, the pacing and carelessness in SL's.

We had some huge SL's in 2013, and rather than taking late 2013-early 2014 to build up new SL's and get us engaged, they're shoving so many 'big' plots down our throats at once. It doesn't work.

Also, there is so many 'big' stuff happening like murders, injuries, arrests e.t.c. It's just not affective anymore.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:49
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the gangsters have just hurt it beyond belief, not only are they awful and uninteresting, not only do they have diabolical sl, not only do they take over the show and the screen time, but they have also bought down so many other characters too. Ste, the Roscoe's etc
I said anything other than gangsters which as I said their screen time has been reduced and I agree with people when they say the gangster crap is awful.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:53
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I said anything other than gangsters which as I said their screen time has been reduced and I agree with people when they say the gangster crap is awful.
Pretty much everything else if If honest.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:56
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Prominently, the pacing and carelessness in SL's.

We had some huge SL's in 2013, and rather than taking late 2013-early 2014 to build up new SL's and get us engaged, they're shoving so many 'big' plots down our throats at once. It doesn't work.

Also, there is so many 'big' stuff happening like murders, injuries, arrests e.t.c. It's just not effective anymore.
Can you say you do not feel for Sinead, Maxine or John Paul becuase I do find those things effective. I probably won't care when it comes to Frazer's murder but as I have said I never liked the gangsters.
Maxine and Patrick build up was very good but now it just needs more screen time. The male rape is good when it is not sensationlist.
They have built up sls like baby Katy's death.
Now all the big plots are coming to an end from 2013 Browning's murder the Maxine and Patrick abuse and other sls. And now we are getting the 2014 sls. Male rape, Baby Katy's death, the whodunnit and aparently a big Darren sl.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:58
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Pretty much everything else if If honest.
Well this is all my opinion I am really enjoying HO I just wondered why people don't like it.
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Old 29-03-2014, 12:59
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75% of the cast are unlikeable or lacking any form of depth whatsoever

10% of the cast are just meh

Leaving 15% of good, watchable characters to enjoy.

On top of this you have mr sensationalist Kirkwood who sees every storyline as an opportunity to for everything to be unbelievable or WTF. The JP storyline is awful; whilst things like this do happen the show is an entertainment show and the fact the whole storyline is being drawn out and JP has gone to jail over Finn is simply ridiculous.

The show wasn't in that bad a state before he joined; sure there was some deadwood, but the state of the show at the moment is bad... in fact in terms of likeable characters I think I preferred Smithwick's era
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:05
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75% of the cast are unlikeable or lacking any form of depth whatsoever

10% of the cast are just meh

Leaving 15% of good, watchable characters to enjoy.

On top of this you have mr sensationalist Kirkwood who sees every storyline as an opportunity to for everything to be unbelievable or WTF. The JP storyline is awful; whilst things like this do happen the show is an entertainment show and the fact the whole storyline is being drawn out and JP has gone to jail over Finn is simply ridiculous.

The show wasn't in that bad a state before he joined; sure there was some deadwood, but the state of the show at the moment is bad... in fact in terms of likeable characters I think I preferred Smithwick's era
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:05
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Oh and they rip off EE
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:06
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Can you say you do not feel for Sinead, Maxine or John Paul becuase I do find those things effective. I probably won't care when it comes to Frazer's murder but as I have said I never liked the gangsters.
Maxine and Patrick build up was very good but now it just needs more screen time. The male rape is good when it is not sensationlist.
They have built up sls like baby Katy's death.
Now all the big plots are coming to an end from 2013 Browning's murder the Maxine and Patrick abuse and other sls. And now we are getting the 2014 sls. Male rape, Baby Katy's death, the whodunnit and aparently a big Darren sl.
No I do not. Sinead is a horrible person that has ruined her own life so the fact they're trying to make us sympathize with her in the first place is pathetic. With Maxine and JP, their SL's have been overshadowed by so much crap that I have no interest in them. Maxine's SL has been going on for a year and has moved nowhere. It is plodding along.

Katy's death hasn't been built up. 'Building' a storyline up can take months to get it off the ground. I mean look at 2012. Lynsey's death, Mitzeee/Mercedes/Riley love triangle, Darren and Nancy's marriage. For the first six months of the year, they were slowly building these SL's up. Nothing drastic happened during this period, but nothing was boring. It was enough to get us engaged in the SL's and the characters involved in it. Katy's death has been about 2 or 3 weeks of Sinead having hissy fits. Not really much build up there.
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:14
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Well this is all my opinion I am really enjoying HO I just wondered why people don't like it.
surely you must understand why others are hating it
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:19
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If it does end soon then I'd like to see it go somewhere else, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with the domestic abuse plot but it will just seem like they've done it just for the sake of it being done if Maxine just gets away from Patrick and splits up with him. I thought they were going to take it somewhere else when Dennis overheard but that was papered over, I thought Sienna was going to discover it a few weeks ago and then rescue Maxine to make her the heroine again and redeem her but that didn't happen either so I'm intrigued what they'll do with it.
I'd like it to end soon. I'm fed up sl is so over the top now. I wonder what they going to do with Maxine's baby though? I don't think will be born.
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:20
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I've given up on watching for months now that I can't seem to return to the show. Its so hard watching that im just like 'ugh!'- honest truth

Corrie is slowly Improving and its unmissable atm with the Phelan and Tina plot I have to say.Its all started moving apace and has become grittier with a hint of good comedy
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:24
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75% of the cast are unlikeable or lacking any form of depth whatsoever

10% of the cast are just meh

Leaving 15% of good, watchable characters to enjoy.

On top of this you have mr sensationalist Kirkwood who sees every storyline as an opportunity to for everything to be unbelievable or WTF. The JP storyline is awful; whilst things like this do happen the show is an entertainment show and the fact the whole storyline is being drawn out and JP has gone to jail over Finn is simply ridiculous.

The show wasn't in that bad a state before he joined; sure there was some deadwood, but the state of the show at the moment is bad... in fact in terms of likeable characters I think I preferred Smithwick's era
I pretty much agree with this. In short, it has no heart.
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:28
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75% of the cast are unlikeable or lacking any form of depth whatsoever

10% of the cast are just meh

Leaving 15% of good, watchable characters to enjoy.

On top of this you have mr sensationalist Kirkwood who sees every storyline as an opportunity to for everything to be unbelievable or WTF. The JP storyline is awful; whilst things like this do happen the show is an entertainment show and the fact the whole storyline is being drawn out and JP has gone to jail over Finn is simply ridiculous.

The show wasn't in that bad a state before he joined; sure there was some deadwood, but the state of the show at the moment is bad... in fact in terms of likeable characters I think I preferred Smithwick's era
Smithwick's era was great IMO...
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Old 29-03-2014, 13:58
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I pretty much agree with this. In short, it has no heart.
BIB: Exactly!
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