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Old 19-06-2014, 23:01
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Don't like it very much
A shame for me as I was looking forward to the album a lot.
I really don't care what anyone says about 'progression' or any other such nonsense. This album is nowhere near as good as Born To Die/Paradise .
I just have to hope she goes back to that for her next album .
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Old 20-06-2014, 00:50
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Interestingly, Lana sent a pile of tweets earlier complaining about the Guardian interview saying that she wasn't comfortable with it and that the interviewer asked leading questions. Obviously she's backing away from the whole 'I Want To Die' thing but a little controversy in the week of an album release is never a bad thing in terms of publicity.
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Old 20-06-2014, 04:12
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Don't like it very much
A shame for me as I was looking forward to the album a lot.
I really don't care what anyone says about 'progression' or any other such nonsense. This album is nowhere near as good as Born To Die/Paradise .
I just have to hope she goes back to that for her next album .
You have to let it "sit" with you and sooner or later the melodies will be swirling around your head
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Old 20-06-2014, 08:07
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Don't like it very much
A shame for me as I was looking forward to the album a lot.
I really don't care what anyone says about 'progression' or any other such nonsense. This album is nowhere near as good as Born To Die/Paradise .
I just have to hope she goes back to that for her next album .
Hardly nonsense when several of us think it is progression but you don't think it is. It's called an opinion. Not nonsense. No need to disregard what other people think just because you don't agree.
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Old 20-06-2014, 10:18
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I personally think it sad when people just expect a favourite artist to keep bringing out a copy of their previous album. The true artist evolves and, hopefully, progresses their sound with each new release. And I believe we can safely say with the release of UV, Lana really is a true artist. This album is currently on repeat with no skipping of tracks. It's superb. It takes an extraordinary album to change the minds of many (mainly US based) music critics so abruptly. UV is that album.
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Old 20-06-2014, 11:04
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This is totally a progression. You can hear it. Its far more indie and raw than the previous two albums were. Her lyrics are also getting better. Not that they weren't ever great to begin with but you can tell she is getting older and wiser. I really don't think we have even sratched the surface in regards to what Lana is capable of. Her peak is still to come imho.
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Old 20-06-2014, 17:19
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I followed the reaction on Twitter for a bit when Del Rey said she felt hard done by that Guardian interview.

Some of her fans are absolutely mental. Like, Little Monsters mental. Considering she, ostensibly, has a more adult following how the hell does that happen?
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Old 20-06-2014, 17:22
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This is totally a progression. You can hear it. Its far more indie and raw than the previous two albums were. Her lyrics are also getting better. Not that they weren't ever great to begin with but you can tell she is getting older and wiser. I really don't think we have even sratched the surface in regards to what Lana is capable of. Her peak is still to come imho.
Totally agree. It's exciting to think how even more amazing she can become!
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Old 20-06-2014, 18:47
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Ooooo I don't really do Twitter so missed all this Guardian battle. Fight! Fight!

Well I see the Guardian have been nice enough to put up their recording of the interview on this article where they exonerate themselves. And I gave it a listen, fully expecting Lana to come out of this looking a little daft. After all why would the Guardian have put this recording if it wasn't clear evidence they were right all along.

I was dumbfounded to see she has a point! The journalist does indeed ask her a load of stupid questions about death and pushes her into the answers she gives. Does she even sound like she's taking it seriously?:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...?commentpage=2

Tis a bit poor and tabloid style journalism on their part really.

As for the age of the fans if you go to the concerts dominated by 14-21 year old girls. Lana is clearly their hero, just like Gaga has her Little Monsters. They adore her and I they get pretty narked off to say the least if their hero is wronged.

Put it this way, I might have a rep for being a fire breathing fan but I've got nothing on these kids! Nothing!
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Old 20-06-2014, 19:59
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Back to Ultra itself. I love both Ultra and B2D. Sheís taken a risk on this one as she could have stuck with the same formula and I fully respect her for doing that. I think itís a risk thatís paid off. As others have said this is clearly more an indie style album compared to B2D that was more synth poppy. Both can live happily next to one another in my world.

I suppose itís inevitable some people that loved the first record are gonna be left slightly cold on this one and vice versa- as weíve seen with Rocketpop saying this is the music he always wanted to hear from Lana. Thumbs up again with the honesty. I suspect no matter how I try and sell B2D to him he ainít changing his mind and thatís honest and I respect that too!

I just hope people will give it a chance anyway, cause I really do think she's done it again and produced another top class album. It would be very sad if people just dismiss it.

I do agree with the comments of about how beautiful those strings were from David-Petersen and hope sheíll re-integrate them into her sound again one day. I might play guitar myself but I still love what other instruments can do. Would miss them on National Anthem.

rbautz may have had a very good point that this one will do very well for her in America and maybe slightly less well in Europe this time around, as the sounds are possibly more geared to appeal in that way. Sheís certainly picking up a lot more plaudits this time in her homeland. We'll see.
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Old 20-06-2014, 20:33
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I think since Ultra has dominated my life, i have since found some new respect for tParadise

Such a beautiful record. Can i place a bet on this to be a potential contender for album of the year at next year's grammys?

Oh and i don't know if mentioned, but Lana is predicted to go to number 1 in the US with sales of between 170-180k.
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Old 20-06-2014, 21:12
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Something more nice to look forward to just if you haven't seen:
https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/480025888244121600

Lana @ Glastonbury 8pm Sat 28th of June on BBC3.

And aren't those US sales incredible !
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Old 20-06-2014, 21:32
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You have to let it "sit" with you and sooner or later the melodies will be swirling around your head
I agree with this

I listened to the album a lot at the beginning of the week... I loved nearly half of it, whereas the rest wasn't clicking with me at all.

I've been working overtime since Wednesday and haven't had time to listen to the album but it's surprised me how many of the songs from it have been stuck in my head over the days.

I finished work today and couldn't wait to play the album and it's like I suddenly 'get' it. It's a stunning album. Perfect for a late summer evening imo

I've read a few press reviews saying there's nothing as good as Video Games on it... but I really disagree. Brooklyn Baby is so effortless.
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Old 21-06-2014, 00:47
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I followed the reaction on Twitter for a bit when Del Rey said she felt hard done by that Guardian interview.

Some of her fans are absolutely mental. Like, Little Monsters mental. Considering she, ostensibly, has a more adult following how the hell does that happen?
The problem with Twitter is that it allows any old idiot can pour out their moronic thoughts unfiltered for the world to see. The problem with singers on Twitter is that it gives said idiots something to rally around and band together. Then it really gets ugly.
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Old 21-06-2014, 00:55
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Ooooo I don't really do Twitter so missed all this Guardian battle. Fight! Fight!

Well I see the Guardian have been nice enough to put up their recording of the interview on this article where they exonerate themselves. And I gave it a listen, fully expecting Lana to come out of this looking a little daft. After all why would the Guardian have put this recording if it wasn't clear evidence they were right all along.

I was dumbfounded to see she has a point! The journalist does indeed ask her a load of stupid questions about death and pushes her into the answers she gives. Does she even sound like she's taking it seriously?:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...?commentpage=2

Tis a bit poor and tabloid style journalism on their part really.

As for the age of the fans if you go to the concerts dominated by 14-21 year old girls. Lana is clearly their hero, just like Gaga has her Little Monsters. They adore her and I they get pretty narked off to say the least if their hero is wronged.

Put it this way, I might have a rep for being a fire breathing fan but I've got nothing on these kids! Nothing!
I think the Guardian really haven't covered themselves in glory here. Either way, they look bad. They've basically shown themselves to have sensationalised the interview and then got arsey when she complained. The thing is though, if she actually did feel that way and is suffering mental health issues, then they look even worse for going after her again, especially considering that she deleted the tweets.
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Old 21-06-2014, 08:02
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Yep I can't say I admire the Guardian at all for how they've gone about their business here, totally tabloid. Put it this way, its Lana's birthday this week. And the Guardian appeared to give her the biggest cake of the lot. But take a closer look...the birthday cake was filled with arsenic. Its a very Machiavellian posing as a friend whilst really you have a dagger hidden up your sleeve.

I think the reason Lana's snapped more than anything else is because this kind of thing has been happening to her since day one. She's fed up of doing interviews only to find her comments twisted. It goes around the world as hard fact, getting quoted and re-quoted drawing worldwide derision, as this article has. It must be a pretty baffling place to be.
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Old 21-06-2014, 09:56
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Something more nice to look forward to just if you haven't seen:
https://twitter.com/bbcthree/status/480025888244121600

Lana @ Glastonbury 8pm Sat 28th of June on BBC3.

And aren't those US sales incredible !
Indeed

I mean she is outselling Linkin Park, who are normally mega album sellers.
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Old 21-06-2014, 10:32
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Well after a week of listening all i can say is this album is a triumph,i think its a much more complete piece of work than born to die which had big highs and lows,this is just fantastic from start to finish.

Big growers for me are cruel world,pretty when i cry and the beautiful sad girl,even west coast is sounding great now its found its place on the album after i wasnt too keen originally.

Must be album of the year.
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Old 21-06-2014, 15:27
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Excellent, glad you've enjoyed it too pinkits! Just from what you are saying with West Coast sounding good now you hear it on the album, I think that's the nail on the head. I do think pretty much all of the songs would make a good single in one way or another but its hearing them as a whole cohesive piece of work on the album that really makes them shine.

You know I'll never understand the current music trend for just buying singles. If people are doing that with Lana's material its like getting a novel, ripping out a couple of chapters that you think you'll like reading and binning the rest. Or watching a film and just fast forwarding to the action scenes, then turning it off. You've got to absorb the whole thing for the full story.

And to take that back to what little-monster has said, I think that reasserts why she's outselling Linkin Park (no disrespect to them this time). She's one of the few elite acts who can produce a truly great album these days and its good to see people recognise that and realise there's a story worth hearing about.
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Old 21-06-2014, 16:10
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Yep I can't say I admire the Guardian at all for how they've gone about their business here, totally tabloid. Put it this way, its Lana's birthday this week. And the Guardian appeared to give her the biggest cake of the lot. But take a closer look...the birthday cake was filled with arsenic. Its a very Machiavellian posing as a friend whilst really you have a dagger hidden up your sleeve.

I think the reason Lana's snapped more than anything else is because this kind of thing has been happening to her since day one. She's fed up of doing interviews only to find her comments twisted. It goes around the world as hard fact, getting quoted and re-quoted drawing worldwide derision, as this article has. It must be a pretty baffling place to be.
Just think when she made a little joke"Gangster Nancy Sinatra"

Saw her yesterday in Berlin,sexy, friendly and vocally good, all in all perfect but I saw via on-screen her face in close ups and sometimes she had this expression in her face like it was in Dublin, I don't know her, so just my guess without any proof, I thought of melancholia.

You can see it here inY+B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V-5tbVVnzk
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Old 21-06-2014, 16:45
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Ultra should of had Y&B as a bonus track. Would be nice to own the song.
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Old 21-06-2014, 16:51
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This album has been on constant replay. Florida Kilos is my favourite song, I hope she releases more music like that in the future.
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Old 21-06-2014, 17:30
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The musical intro to Cruel World is just about the best intro music I've ever heard on a starting track on an album. It's true what some reviewers have said - that amazing, sprawling monster of a song sets the tone for the rest of the album and what to expect from the next 40-odd minutes. It's a stunning track from a stunning album. I can just imagine the reviews if Lana had basically brought out BTD 2 , they would have smashed her to smithereens. Instead the vast majority of the (mainly US) critics have been converted by this album. Very brave move from Lana but I'm reminded of the old saying

Talent does what it can, but genius does what it must...
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Old 21-06-2014, 17:33
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I'd love to hear Brooklyn Baby on the radio over the summer.

I love this album more and more I hear it
I have to admit though, I've changed the order on my iTunes and much prefer it:

Cruel World
Shades of Cool
Brooklyn Baby
West Coast
F***** my way up to the top
Sad Girl
Money Power Glory
Ultraviolence
Pretty when you cry
Old Money

(and removed The Other Woman... for now )
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Old 21-06-2014, 18:19
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Stunning album.

Takes a few listens to really get it but once you do it hit's you so powerfully.

There isn't a single fault i can put at this album, melodically and lyrically never let's up, each note is so strong and important and every word feels like it means something.

The production is so beautiful, the raw organic feel is like a drug to my ears but it still feels big and ethereal.

I really hope she wants to continue to grow as i feel there is even more to come from her and i think she has so many other versions of herself to give us but we can go into that on another occasion.
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